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    Optimus Prime

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    NEW YORK (AP) — President Joe Biden begins an intense period of private preparations Friday at Camp David for what may be the most consequential presidential debate in decades.

    The 81-year-old Democrat’s team is aware that he cannot afford an underwhelming performance when he faces Republican rival Donald Trump for 90 minutes on live television Thursday night. Biden’s team is expecting aggressive attacks on his physical and mental strength, his record on the economy and immigration and even his family.

    Trump, 78 and ever confident, will stay on the campaign trail before going to his Florida estate next week for two days of private meetings as part of an informal prep process.

    The former president’s allies are pushing him to stay focused on his governing plans, but they’re expecting him to be tested by pointed questions about his unrelenting focus on election fraud, his role in the erosion of abortion rights and his unprecedented legal baggage.

    Thursday’s debate on CNN will be full of firsts, with the potential to reshape the presidential race. Never before in the modern era have two presumptive nominees met on the debate stage so early in the general election season. Never before have two White House contenders faced off at such advanced ages, with widespread questions about their readiness.

    And never before has a general election debate participant been saddled with a felony conviction. The debate-stage meeting comes just two weeks before Trump is scheduled to be sentenced on 34 felony counts in his New York hush money trial.

    “You can argue this will be the most important debate, at least in my lifetime,” said Democratic strategist Jim Messina, 54, who managed former President Barack Obama’s 2012 campaign.

    PRESSURE ON BIDEN


    The ground rules for Thursday’s debate, the first of two scheduled meetings, are unusual.

    The candidates agreed to meet at a CNN studio in Atlanta with no audience. Each candidate’s microphone will be muted, except when it’s his turn to speak. No props or prewritten notes will be allowed onstage. The candidates will be given only a pen, a pad of paper and a bottle of water.

    There will be no opening statements. A coin flip determined that Biden would stand at the podium to the viewer’s right, while Trump would deliver the final closing statement.


    The next debate won’t be until September. Any stumbles Thursday will be hard to erase or replace quickly.………..

     
    This isn’t going to work out.
    I've basically completely checked out of all of this bullshirt until right now... You do have to at least wonder about some things that could happen with this debate being this early..
     
    I've basically completely checked out of all of this bullshirt until right now... You do have to at least wonder about some things that could happen with this debate being this early..

    It's basically what you would expect from a 78 and 81 year old debating.
     
    I can't watch anymore. Biden's face....frozen at times. His facial expressions. He just looks 12 years older than Trump. I just switched to watching tennis.
     
    It's basically what you would expect from a 78 and 81 year old debating.
    It is, but it's also pretty apparent imo that Trump presents better here in an overall sense, just as far as the contrast in the way that they look and the way that they speak and all.

    Biden is often trying to drive through what he's wanting to say whereas Trump is relaxed and just doing his talking thing.
     
    It is, but it's also pretty apparent imo that Trump presents better here in an overall sense, just as far as the contrast in the way that they look and the way that they speak and all.

    Biden is often trying to drive through what he's wanting to say whereas Trump is relaxed and just doing his talking thing.

    Yup, Trump's biggest issue is that he turns into word salad sometimes. He at least sounds sharp even if he's as coherent as a random speech generator.
     
    It is, but it's also pretty apparent imo that Trump presents better here in an overall sense, just as far as the contrast in the way that they look and the way that they speak and all.

    Biden is often trying to drive through what he's wanting to say whereas Trump is relaxed and just doing his talking thing.
    Yeah, my thought is Biden looks like he's trying to recite memorized talking points and stumbling through it. Trump is just riffing without really caring if it is true or not.... Trump is coming across better in this manner.
     
    “NATO was going out of business” ….. LoL.
     
    He successfully flipped the hell out of the January 6th question.

    And Biden doesn't have an ability to think/speak on his feet well enough to respond.
     
    Biden is getting a bit better as he goes on... but if this continues in this way Trump gets the win in this debate.

    It just feels like a flub from Democrats. Biden shouldn't have run. I can't imagine what someone who could execute on all of Trump's flubs could do. Gavin Newsom would be killing Trump right now.
     
    Biden is getting a bit better as he goes on... but if this continues in this way Trump gets the win in this debate.

    Trump better tone and pacing, but spewing nonsense. Biden has some type of lung issue. I’ve never heard him so short of breath. Biden’s agape mouth looks bad. Trump is just rambling nonsense. Biden can put a bow on even easy Jan 20 questions.
     
    I can't watch anymore. Biden's face....frozen at times. His facial expressions. He just looks 12 years older than Trump. I just switched to watching tennis.
    I could have sworn you said you were done with this topic and this board, yet here you are again telling another lie.

    Biden has not looked "frozen". He's stammered, he's gotten tongue tied, he's lost his train of thought once or twice, and he's looked down while listening and taking notes, but he has not "frozen" a single time.

    You're shilling for Trump whether you admit it or not.
     
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