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    Meant to post this when the Scott Adams/Dilbert story broke

    Who are far right celebrities that you are aware of?

    I think Jon Voight is probably the granddaddy of them all with James Woods not far behind

    There's Ted Nugent for sure

    Hercules' Kevin Sorbo and Lois & Clark's Dean Cain

    Scott Baio had his moment at the RNC, I haven't heard anything from him since

    I'd add Kanye West but he more seems to be just losing his mind

    I'm pretty sure that Drew Carey, Tim Allen and Kelsey Grammer are conservative Republicans (which is fine) but as far as I know none of them went off the deep end

    Roseanne Barr seemed to go full far right

    Growing Pains Kirk Cameron is super religious, but I've never heard him comment on anything other than religion (it would just be an assumption that someone that religious is far right)

    The pandemic opened the doors to some anti-vax, conspiracy minded celebs which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with politics

    Those would include:

    Person of Interest's Jim Caviezel
    Black Panther Letitia Wright
    Lost's Evangeline Lilly

    Think of anyone else?
     
    Roseanne Barr has been blasted for a bizarre “comedy skit” in which she falsely accuses Joe Biden of raping her in an unfunny attempt at mocking Donald Trump accuser E Jean Carroll.

    In the cringe-worthy spoof, filmed in the shoe department of New York’s Bergdorf Goodmandepartment store, Barr, 71, gasps at the camera and feigns having a flashback to an experience of sexual assault……







    Comments are all over the place
     
    Should Jerry Seinfeld be added to this list?

    He’s made some eyebrow raising statements recently but still seems different than others in this thread
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    There are few things certain in life except death, taxes and the knowledge that every single gosh darned day you can look at the news and find a rich man complaining about how feminism and wokeness have ruined the world.

    Today’s edition of Bigotry Is Acceptable Again comes via Jerry Seinfeld, who appears to be on a mission to make sure people don’t associate him with a much-loved sitcom from the 1990s but with being a boring reactionary obsessed with shaking his fist at progress.

    Seinfeld’s lurch to the right hasn’t come out of nowhere: the billionaire comedian was never exactly woke. He famously dated a 17-year-old high school student when he was 38 and definitely not a high school student.

    Several years ago, he also took his family to a so-called Anti-terror Fantasy Camp in an illegal Israeli settlement in the West Bank accused of “gamifying” apartheid, where they could shoot guns and pretend to be soldiers.

    But while Seinfeld has never been a bleeding-heart liberal, it feels like he’s never been quite so vocally anti-progressive as he is now.

    Ever since 7 October, Seinfeld has advocated loudly for Israel’s collective punishment of Palestinians, demonized pro-Palestinian protesters, and joked about suffering children in Gaza. “Save the children of Gaza,” he said in a mocking voice after getting heckled by pro-Palestinian protesters at a show.

    Along with cheerleading what the United Nations human rights council has described as genocidal violence, he has also apparently decided that a great tactic for publicizing his much-panned movie about Pop-Tarts is by complaining about the left.

    In April, for example, Seinfeld told the New Yorker’s Radio Hour that comedy was dying because of the “result of the extreme left and PC crap and people worrying so much about offending other people”. (Really hilarious comedy, my friends, is joking about dead Palestinian children.)

    Then this week, Seinfeld decided to get nostalgic about “real men” on the conservative agitator Bari Weiss’s podcast. “I miss a dominant masculinity,” Seinfeld said. “Yeah, I get the toxic thing … But still, I like a real man.”

    The pair also talked about Israel and managed to display so little regard for the suffering in Gaza that an Israeli journalist wrote a disgusted column about it.

    “The amount of empathy it would have taken for Bari Weiss and Seinfeld to stop and think that perhaps ‘the mob,’ as they referred to the pro-Palestinian movement … is also in pain is so miniscule, I am still astounded neither of them could muster it up,” Rachel Fink wrote in the Israeli paper Haaretz……..

     
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    Should Jerry Seinfeld be added to this list?

    He’s made some eyebrow raising statements recently but still seems different that others in this thread
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    There are few things certain in life except death, taxes and the knowledge that every single gosh darned day you can look at the news and find a rich man complaining about how feminism and wokeness have ruined the world.

    Today’s edition of Bigotry Is Acceptable Again comes via Jerry Seinfeld, who appears to be on a mission to make sure people don’t associate him with a much-loved sitcom from the 1990s but with being a boring reactionary obsessed with shaking his fist at progress.

    Seinfeld’s lurch to the right hasn’t come out of nowhere: the billionaire comedian was never exactly woke. He famously dated a 17-year-old high school student when he was 38 and definitely not a high school student.

    Several years ago, he also took his family to a so-called Anti-terror Fantasy Camp in an illegal Israeli settlement in the West Bank accused of “gamifying” apartheid, where they could shoot guns and pretend to be soldiers.

    But while Seinfeld has never been a bleeding-heart liberal, it feels like he’s never been quite so vocally anti-progressive as he is now.

    Ever since 7 October, Seinfeld has advocated loudly for Israel’s collective punishment of Palestinians, demonized pro-Palestinian protesters, and joked about suffering children in Gaza. “Save the children of Gaza,” he said in a mocking voice after getting heckled by pro-Palestinian protesters at a show.

    Along with cheerleading what the United Nations human rights council has described as genocidal violence, he has also apparently decided that a great tactic for publicizing his much-panned movie about Pop-Tarts is by complaining about the left.

    In April, for example, Seinfeld told the New Yorker’s Radio Hour that comedy was dying because of the “result of the extreme left and PC crap and people worrying so much about offending other people”. (Really hilarious comedy, my friends, is joking about dead Palestinian children.)

    Then this week, Seinfeld decided to get nostalgic about “real men” on the conservative agitator Bari Weiss’s podcast. “I miss a dominant masculinity,” Seinfeld said. “Yeah, I get the toxic thing … But still, I like a real man.”

    The pair also talked about Israel and managed to display so little regard for the suffering in Gaza that an Israeli journalist wrote a disgusted column about it.

    “The amount of empathy it would have taken for Bari Weiss and Seinfeld to stop and think that perhaps ‘the mob,’ as they referred to the pro-Palestinian movement … is also in pain is so miniscule, I am still astounded neither of them could muster it up,” Rachel Fink wrote in the Israeli paper Haaretz……..

    I have never really found Seinfeld funny.

    His attitudes are interesting. There is a fairly small but extremely virulent strain of men that cannot deal with actually having emotional contact with humanity. Whether it is due to being taught this or due to what they experienced growing up I do not know. I do believe that so-called toxic masculinity has been around since humanity developed. The difference today is the magnification of communication in general and the interwebs in particular.
     
    I'm not really seeing his behavior as right vs. left. 1. He's Jewish. His point of view regarding the conflict is understandable, right or wrong. 2. He's a comedian. I'd imagine a lot of comedians aren't super happy about more and more topics becoming taboo to make fun of.
     
    I'm not really seeing his behavior as right vs. left. 1. He's Jewish. His point of view regarding the conflict is understandable, right or wrong. 2. He's a comedian. I'd imagine a lot of comedians aren't super happy about more and more topics becoming taboo to make fun of.
    I don't know. As far as 1. goes, Jewish people have a wide range of views, and I would suggest that the ones who go to a 'Anti-terror fantasy camp' are, let's say, less likely to be on the left side of things, as things are at the present.

    And for 2, I genuinely think the problem isn't that topics are "taboo", so much as it is that the meaning and context of the jokes they've told about those topics reflects badly on them in a contemporary - and often in a historical for anyone who'd really been thinking about it - sense. Because jokes are still words which still have meanings which can still reflect things about the speaker. To take a trivial example, take 'dumb blonde' jokes. It's not the topics - stupidity and hair colour - that are taboo, it's that the jokes are inherently, themselves, dumb, rooted as they are in an inaccurate and prejudicial stereotype. Telling the jokes (assuming not ironically) suggests the comedian holds that prejudice. Which reflects badly on them.

    Some comedians are absolutely fine with moving with that, but I think others have this self-image that they just can't have done anything like that. So then you get cognitive dissonance kicking in. The problem can't have been the jokes they told then, which are - usually with good reason - recognised as being offensive now, the problem must be everyone else. It's not what they've done, or are doing, that's the problem, it's everyone else reacting to it. They should be able to make any joke without any consequences; no criticism, no rejection, nothing negative at all. Then they start doubling down on it, and before you know it, they're on a fast train to far right celebrity town.
     
    I don't know. As far as 1. goes, Jewish people have a wide range of views, and I would suggest that the ones who go to a 'Anti-terror fantasy camp' are, let's say, less likely to be on the left side of things, as things are at the present.

    And for 2, I genuinely think the problem isn't that topics are "taboo", so much as it is that the meaning and context of the jokes they've told about those topics reflects badly on them in a contemporary - and often in a historical for anyone who'd really been thinking about it - sense. Because jokes are still words which still have meanings which can still reflect things about the speaker. To take a trivial example, take 'dumb blonde' jokes. It's not the topics - stupidity and hair colour - that are taboo, it's that the jokes are inherently, themselves, dumb, rooted as they are in an inaccurate and prejudicial stereotype. Telling the jokes (assuming not ironically) suggests the comedian holds that prejudice. Which reflects badly on them.

    Some comedians are absolutely fine with moving with that, but I think others have this self-image that they just can't have done anything like that. So then you get cognitive dissonance kicking in. The problem can't have been the jokes they told then, which are - usually with good reason - recognised as being offensive now, the problem must be everyone else. It's not what they've done, or are doing, that's the problem, it's everyone else reacting to it. They should be able to make any joke without any consequences; no criticism, no rejection, nothing negative at all. Then they start doubling down on it, and before you know it, they're on a fast train to far right celebrity town.
    You're spot on.

    There's only one necessary factor for someone to become famous and well known like celebrities are. They have to been driven to be famous and well known.

    We seem to overlook that. Occasionally, someone who doesn't want to be famous gets famous, but the fame is short lived for that person because that person doesn't want the fame.

    People who pursue fame are pretty far into the narcissistic spectrum. Those people have little to no self-reflection, self-accountability and prefer authoritarianism.

    If someone achieves and maintains fame, they are this way. The more famous they are, the more they are like this.
     
    Dr. Phil is joining the MAGA gravy train. He has a new website and streamed a very friendly interview with Trump. He fawned over Trump so much, very cringy. Also tried to get him to say he wouldn’t seek revenge if he gets re-elected, but Trump is not convinced, lol.
     
    Dr. Phil is joining the MAGA gravy train. He has a new website and streamed a very friendly interview with Trump. He fawned over Trump so much, very cringy. Also tried to get him to say he wouldn’t seek revenge if he gets re-elected, but Trump is not convinced, lol.
    On CNN Laura Coates said the interview wasn’t softball questions, they were more like T-Ball
     
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    You're spot on.

    There's only one necessary factor for someone to become famous and well known like celebrities are. They have to been driven to be famous and well known.

    We seem to overlook that. Occasionally, someone who doesn't want to be famous gets famous, but the fame is short lived for that person because that person doesn't want the fame.

    People who pursue fame are pretty far into the narcissistic spectrum. Those people have little to no self-reflection, self-accountability and prefer authoritarianism.

    If someone achieves and maintains fame, they are this way. The more famous they are, the more they are like this.
    Agreed. I would also add that there seems to be a tendency for famous people to think they have expertise in subject areas where they have merely layman’s knowledge. This seems to be particularly the case when it comes to “successful” businessmen. It also flows from those who fawn over famous people.
     
    Should Jerry Seinfeld be added to this list?

    He’s made some eyebrow raising statements recently but still seems different than others in this thread
    ==============

    There are few things certain in life except death, taxes and the knowledge that every single gosh darned day you can look at the news and find a rich man complaining about how feminism and wokeness have ruined the world.

    Today’s edition of Bigotry Is Acceptable Again comes via Jerry Seinfeld, who appears to be on a mission to make sure people don’t associate him with a much-loved sitcom from the 1990s but with being a boring reactionary obsessed with shaking his fist at progress.

    Seinfeld’s lurch to the right hasn’t come out of nowhere: the billionaire comedian was never exactly woke. He famously dated a 17-year-old high school student when he was 38 and definitely not a high school student.

    Several years ago, he also took his family to a so-called Anti-terror Fantasy Camp in an illegal Israeli settlement in the West Bank accused of “gamifying” apartheid, where they could shoot guns and pretend to be soldiers.

    But while Seinfeld has never been a bleeding-heart liberal, it feels like he’s never been quite so vocally anti-progressive as he is now.

    Ever since 7 October, Seinfeld has advocated loudly for Israel’s collective punishment of Palestinians, demonized pro-Palestinian protesters, and joked about suffering children in Gaza. “Save the children of Gaza,” he said in a mocking voice after getting heckled by pro-Palestinian protesters at a show.

    Along with cheerleading what the United Nations human rights council has described as genocidal violence, he has also apparently decided that a great tactic for publicizing his much-panned movie about Pop-Tarts is by complaining about the left.

    In April, for example, Seinfeld told the New Yorker’s Radio Hour that comedy was dying because of the “result of the extreme left and PC crap and people worrying so much about offending other people”. (Really hilarious comedy, my friends, is joking about dead Palestinian children.)

    Then this week, Seinfeld decided to get nostalgic about “real men” on the conservative agitator Bari Weiss’s podcast. “I miss a dominant masculinity,” Seinfeld said. “Yeah, I get the toxic thing … But still, I like a real man.”

    The pair also talked about Israel and managed to display so little regard for the suffering in Gaza that an Israeli journalist wrote a disgusted column about it.

    “The amount of empathy it would have taken for Bari Weiss and Seinfeld to stop and think that perhaps ‘the mob,’ as they referred to the pro-Palestinian movement … is also in pain is so miniscule, I am still astounded neither of them could muster it up,” Rachel Fink wrote in the Israeli paper Haaretz……..

    Wait, wait...Jerry Seinfeld? THAT Jerry Seinfeld is into "dominant masculinity?" Well he's sure's hell not talking about himself. Is he out now? Will we see him in the 'Bear' section of a Pride parade wearing a cute little sequined collar?
     

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