Election Night (+4) in America - Result: Biden Elected President (16 Viewers)

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    samiam5211 said:
    I think when the popular vote and electoral college get so out of wack it tells us something is wrong.

    I think the rural/urban disconnect in our society that the EC is pointing out to us is more important to fix than the EC.
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    Nah, the EC is garbage. 20% of the population controls 50% of the votes.
     
    samiam5211 said:
    I think when the popular vote and electoral college get so out of wack it tells us something is wrong.

    I think the rural/urban disconnect in our society that the EC is pointing out to us is more important to fix than the EC.
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    It isn't so much a rural/urban disconnect as a population/voting district disconnect. Most states are so badly gerrymandered that:

    PurpleReign said:
    20% of the population controls 50% of the votes.
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    samiam5211 said:
    I think when the popular vote and electoral college get so out of wack it tells us something is wrong.

    I think the rural/urban disconnect in our society that the EC is pointing out to us is more important to fix than the EC.
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    The Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 is what broke the electoral college system. Permanently freezing the number of seats in the House of Representatives has caused unequal representation in the House.

    Each state's electoral college votes are their 2 senate seats plus their house seats. We need to repeal the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 and expand the number of seats in the House.

    Since every state has to get at least one house seat, then the way to calculate how many representatives each state gets should be determined by dividing the state's population by the total populatin of the least populated state and then rounding off to the nearest whole number. That would make the House equally representative on a per capita basis like it's supposed to be. It would also make the proportional representation of the EC more equal.
     
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    I'm a person of many "crazy" ideas of how to fix the political system in the US. One of those ideas for fixing disproportionate representation in both houses involves not changing the number of representatives anywhere, but changing their voting power by giving each Senator's individual vote the "weight" of the # of voters his/her district or state represents...this would show it's effect more in the senate where for ex the 6 senators from Wyoming, N/S Dakota represent maybe 600,000 voters which is half of a small southern state like...well Louisiana who is at 1.2M voters or hell, CA who has 12M voters.
     
    BayouSAINTJoe said:
    I'm a person of many "crazy" ideas of how to fix the political system in the US. One of those ideas for fixing disproportionate representation in both houses involves not changing the number of representatives anywhere, but changing their voting power by giving each Senator's individual vote the "weight" of the # of voters his/her district or state represents...this would show it's effect more in the senate where for ex the 6 senators from Wyoming, N/S Dakota represent maybe 600,000 voters which is half of a small southern state like...well Louisiana who is at 1.2M voters or hell, CA who has 12M voters.
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    I would rather see the senate dissolved into the house. 100 people (in practice more like 48 people) having the power to hold our legislative process hostage is too prone to abuse. A unicameral legislature of 535 takes the senate's power down to the level of the house.
     
    MSNBC just read a statement from the Biden campaign calling out the networks for being scared to call the election. Good move or bad?
     
    GrandAdmiral said:
    MSNBC just read a statement from the Biden campaign calling out the networks for being scared to call the election. Good move or bad?
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    Yea I think it’s time. Arizona may be trending in the wrong direction, but Georgia, Nevada, and PA are not, and Trump can’t win without PA and GA.
     
    GrandAdmiral said:
    MSNBC just read a statement from the Biden campaign calling out the networks for being scared to call the election. Good move or bad?
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    There's nothing official about a network calling an election. It has absolutely no impact on determining the outcome of the election.

    If I was running a network, I would not call any election until it was a mathematical certainty that a candidate had won. We have not reached that point with the outstanding states. This is such an atypical election for so many reasons and there's still a lot of questions about the number and composition of outstanding ballots left to count.

    I think it's premature to call this election. Biden needs to practice the patience he's preaching.
     
    At this point the damage is done. He has managed to set his supporter on a path and they are all in on misinformation and voter fraud. Elected Republicans will use it to build a narrative that Biden is an illegitimate President so he shouldn’t get any nominations or legislation through. Obstructing the illegitimate President will be their 2022 electoral strategy.

    Trump has destroyed faith in our institutions among half the population, and now he’s destroyed faith in our electoral process. It will take a generation to recover from him as a country, if we ever do.
     
    GrandAdmiral said:
    MSNBC just read a statement from the Biden campaign calling out the networks for being scared to call the election. Good move or bad?
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    The networks are waiting on Fox News to call it. They don’t want the narrative to be the fake news media is against Grump.
     

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