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He means Farb I think. It should read anti-religion, because Farb is claiming we are cramming anti-religion at him, which is just a total made up thing. 🤦‍♀️

How dare you tell me Happy Holidays! IT'S MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
 
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In what ways are people trying to cram anti-religion down people's throats? By preventing you from codifying your religious beliefs in the laws of the land? That's secularism and how a government should function... unless you are a fan of Middle Eastern theocracies.

If only you would abide by your alleged key principal of not wanting the government to interfere in the affairs of others...
Is there not a push in this country to get rid of religious, especially Christian symbols in public? St. Junipero will disagree. Remember that big WW1 monument that as shaped like a cross (I know, horrible) and the move to get it taken down? What about the burning of churches in the last couple of years? Do we count those?
If your argument is that no one is pushing anti-religion in this country then you are being very disingenuous. You can just look at this board for examples.
Now this is where someone lists the atrocities of religion on the world while back in the 500AD while conveniently ignoring the good that vastly outweighs any bad.
 
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Pure trash of a post. You know, since I'm only allowed to attack the post. But hey, garbage in, garbage out.
Care to educate me, or do we just like drive by virtue signaling?

Please feel free to message me directly if you want to attack the poster, I would be totally and 100% ok with that. I will be more than cordial.
 
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I didn't ask, not really interested. But I obviously hit the nail on the head with my description of the alt-right. Lol.
I am glad you think that but no, you were wrong on just about every point as per your usual. So good job on that.
 
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See. Sometimes you do so well. This one is on the right track!😉 I am having a wonderful time in Ireland by the way. No rain and 77F😊
Where in Ireland are you? I am jealous!
 

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Is there not a push in this country to get rid of religious, especially Christian symbols in public? St. Junipero will disagree. Remember that big WW1 monument that as shaped like a cross (I know, horrible) and the move to get it taken down? What about the burning of churches in the last couple of years? Do we count those?
If your argument is that no one is pushing anti-religion in this country then you are being very disingenuous. You can just look at this board for examples.
Now this is where someone lists the atrocities of religion on the world while back in the 500AD while conveniently ignoring the good that vastly outweighs any bad.
Aren’t most of the church burnings carried out by white supremacists against black churches? Actually also the attacks on synagogues and mosques as well? Kinda disingenuous to call that part of a war on religion to me.

You are conflating criticism of religion with actual efforts to do away with religion. I know a lot of religious people are painting themselves as victims, but where are the actual efforts to do away with their religion? There aren’t any.
 
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Aren’t most of the church burnings carried out by white supremacists against black churches? Actually also the attacks on synagogues and mosques as well? Kinda disingenuous to call that part of a war on religion to me.

You are conflating criticism of religion with actual efforts to do away with religion. I know a lot of religious people are painting themselves as victims, but where are the actual efforts to do away with their religion? There aren’t any.
Yeah, don't look, you might see them.
 
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yeah, don’t answer my question. Where are there efforts to do away with your rights to practice your religion?
In a socialist revolution, the first to go under the knife by the ruling elites is either religion or weapons. I know you can't see the push and I am only a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist that has been brainwashed by the alt-rights news sources I consume. So we can leave that here and I will flow with you on this.

The left loves and encourages religion. Especially the Catholic church. They want all citizens in church services every Sunday (or Saturdays). The left cannot get enough of religion and the teachings and values.

Does that sound right to you?
 
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We were in Dublin Tuesday and Wednesday. Today we started our day with a tour of Belfast ..then we received a tour of Carrickfergus Castle.....then a lengthy drive on the Antrim Coast Road. Brilliant / Lovely day!😊😎
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In a socialist revolution, the first to go under the knife by the ruling elites is either religion or weapons. I know you can't see the push and I am only a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist that has been brainwashed by the alt-rights news sources I consume. So we can leave that here and I will flow with you on this.

The left loves and encourages religion. Especially the Catholic church. They want all citizens in church services every Sunday (or Saturdays). The left cannot get enough of religion and the teachings and values.

Does that sound right to you?

That's a lot of words to not answer the question. Are you in any way being denied the ability to practice your religion according to the tenets of your faith?
 

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Is there not a push in this country to get rid of religious, especially Christian symbols in public? St. Junipero will disagree. Remember that big WW1 monument that as shaped like a cross (I know, horrible) and the move to get it taken down? What about the burning of churches in the last couple of years? Do we count those?
If your argument is that no one is pushing anti-religion in this country then you are being very disingenuous. You can just look at this board for examples.
Now this is where someone lists the atrocities of religion on the world while back in the 500AD while conveniently ignoring the good that vastly outweighs any bad.
There's always groups willing to push something. But the 'anti-religion' push is nowhere as widespread as the current evangelical one that has effectively seized control of the GOP and frames the vast majority of its policy decisions. I sense you would feel differently if the Democrats were pushing Islamic policies.

Also, I strongly disagree that the good of religion vastly outweighs the bad. I'd say that's your biased perspective. IMO, the human race could have gotten along just fine without it and it's caused far more trouble than its worth. And that's not even including collateral damage like hindering scientific thought/development.
 

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In a socialist revolution, the first to go under the knife by the ruling elites is either religion or weapons. I know you can't see the push and I am only a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist that has been brainwashed by the alt-rights news sources I consume. So we can leave that here and I will flow with you on this.

The left loves and encourages religion. Especially the Catholic church. They want all citizens in church services every Sunday (or Saturdays). The left cannot get enough of religion and the teachings and values.

Does that sound right to you?
The socialist revolution talk is just made up. There are no socialists among democrats, not real socialists. Just because they believe in helping the working class with programs like Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security doesn’t make them Socialists. It doesn’t matter how many times some right winger screeches about it, it’s still not true.
 

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The left loves and encourages religion. Especially the Catholic church. They want all citizens in church services every Sunday (or Saturdays). The left cannot get enough of religion and the teachings and values.

Is that something "the left" needs to be doing in order to show that it's not anti-religion? You're basically saying that if you don't actively promote religious indoctrination, you automatically anti-religion.

What if "the left" said, "I don't care what you do on Saturday or Sunday, just leave me out of it and don't discriminate against me". Is that anti-religious too?
 

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