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[Farb]

For all the things related to the Biden/Harris Administration and their latest hits and misses

https://www.dailywire.com/news/whit...gedly-sexually-harassing-threatening-reporter

Interesting story, looks like 'only the best people' didn't stop with the new administration.

 

[SamAndreas]

If the DNC would quit rigging primaries and forcing candidates, the younger voters would not be so disillusioned.

They didn't want Hilary, they forced her on the Ballot.

They didn't want Biden, they forced him on the Ballot.

The 20-something voter block doesn't see a difference between democrats and republicans, and they shouldn't. The DNC leadership is filled with corporate shill empty suits. They run on social issues and they placate us with talk of progressivism whilst running a campaign, only to legislate in the interest of special interests and corporate lobbyists when they get elected.

I didn't know I was rigging primaries and forcing people onto ballots. I didn't know my name was DNC either.

Are you sure about the premise of your post, that "If the DNC would quit rigging primaries and forcing candidates, the younger voters would not be so disillusioned"?

I voted for both Clinton and Biden in the primary, so I know you're talking about me, and I know that I'm an older fellow, but the younger folks also got to vote too. Everyone got one vote, it was fair. I didn't force anyone onto those ballots.

So I don't agree with what you said at all.

 

[bdb13]

I didn't know I was rigging primaries and forcing people onto ballots. I didn't know my name was DNC either.

Are you sure about the premise of your post, that "If the DNC would quit rigging primaries and forcing candidates, the younger voters would not be so disillusioned"?

I voted for both Clinton and Biden in the primary, so I know you're talking about me, and I know that I'm an older fellow, but the younger folks also got to vote too. Everyone got one vote, it was fair. I didn't force anyone onto those ballots.

So I don't agree with what you said at all.

There were some shenanigans in the DNC when Hillary was nominated over Bernie but I cannot remember details.

Last go around I just think most realized post the South Carolina primary that Biden was the most likely one to defeat Trump and at that point some of the other candidates were encouraged to drop out and to rally around him.

 

[samiam5211]

If the DNC would quit rigging primaries and forcing candidates, the younger voters would not be so disillusioned.

They didn't want Hilary, they forced her on the Ballot.

They didn't want Biden, they forced him on the Ballot.

The 20-something voter block doesn't see a difference between democrats and republicans, and they shouldn't. The DNC leadership is filled with corporate shill empty suits. They run on social issues and they placate us with talk of progressivism whilst running a campaign, only to legislate in the interest of special interests and corporate lobbyists when they get elected.

I think we need to end party controlled primaries.

We should only have open primaries for every election. It would help start the ball rolling to erode the power of Democrats and Republicans.

 

[Booker]

There were some shenanigans in the DNC when Hillary was nominated over Bernie but I cannot remember details.

Last go around I just think most realized post the South Carolina primary that Biden was the most likely one to defeat Trump and at that point some of the other candidates were encouraged to drop out and to rally around him.

I recall the "shenanigans" were that they communicated via email that they favored Clinton and were horrified with the prospect of Sanders at the top of the ticket and how it might impact down ballot races to have a Socialist as the standard bearer.

But I can't remember that they actually did anything, they just talked shirt about his candidacy in what they thought were private emails.

 

[bdb13]

I recall the "shenanigans" were that they communicated via email that they favored Clinton and were horrified with the prospect of Sanders at the top of the ticket and how it might impact down ballot races to have a Socialist as the standard bearer.

But I can't remember that they actually did anything, they just talked shirt about his candidacy in what they thought were private emails.

Wasn't there also something with like Donna Brazil giving Hillary a heads up on debate questions over Bernie or something? I think Brazil may have been head of the DNC at that point? Maybe some financial stuff too with the Clintons and the DNC? I just can't really remember. Been a while and I'm in a medical marijuana state LOL.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Even without potential 'shenanigans,' in 2016 superdelegates still played a large role in the nomination process (there were some changes for 2020) and all of them were in the bag for Hillary. I wouldn't say there was any significant wrongdoing but the establishment clearly set the ball in motion for 2016 to be Hillary's coronation. And they grossly misread the electorate.

The DNC needs to put a lot more thought into the appeal of their candidates outside of Washington insider echo chambers and the mainstream media.

 

[bdb13]

Even without potential 'shenanigans,' in 2016 superdelegates still played a large role in the nomination process (there were some changes for 2020) and all of them were in the bag for Hillary. I wouldn't say there was any significant wrongdoing but the establishment clearly set the ball in motion for 2016 to be Hillary's coronation. And they grossly misread the electorate.

The DNC needs to put a lot more thought into the appeal of their candidates outside of Washington insider echo chambers and the mainstream media.

Super delegates assigning themselves to a candidate early on definitely is an artificial way to sway things.

It just didn't work the first time with Hillary because Obama powered through it.

 

[Port City JJ]

I hate to be a "dO yOuR oWn ReSuRcH"-er but I dont have time today to come back and document the DNC hijacking of super-delegates to ensure Hilary and then Biden was given the nomination over Sanders, but I thought it was widely accepted at this point. There were in fact emails about it as mentioned above, establishing, in my description, a conspiracy to ensure preferred corporate friendly candidate would get the nomination.

At the minimum you could understand voting for someone as old as their senile grandfather would be less than exciting.

 

[Booker]

Wasn't there also something with like Donna Brazil giving Hillary a heads up on debate questions over Bernie or something? I think Brazil may have been head of the DNC at that point? Maybe some financial stuff too with the Clintons and the DNC? I just can't really remember. Been a while and I'm in a medical marijuana state LOL.

Yeah, I had to look that up. While working for CNN and as vice Chair of the DNC, Brazile gave Clinton a heads up that during a town hall she'd be asked about the water situation in Flint and about the death penalty. And there were some fundraising agreements (some of which were also offered to Sanders) that gave Clinton some influence over press releases in return for helping resolve debt from 2012, but also insisted upon DNC impartiality.

I think you could argue that the DNC put the cart ahead of the horse in assuming Clinton would be the candidate, and having a Clinton acolyte like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz running things you could tell who was favored. But she still won more votes, more contests, more delegates (not even counting the "super delegates").

She was definitely a flawed candidate, and not one I really wanted to support. But Sanders had a lot of flaws, too. Not everyone wants a socialist revolution.

 

[Port City JJ]

Maybe "giving" is too strong a word and "purposefully influencing" is better. They conspired to give an unjust advantage to the more "moderate" (i.e. corporate friendly) candidate through the heavily lopsided super delegates (despite actual votes being much closer together.)

 

[bdb13]

Yeah, I had to look that up. While working for CNN and as vice Chair of the DNC, Brazile gave Clinton a heads up that during a town hall she'd be asked about the water situation in Flint and about the death penalty. And there were some fundraising agreements (some of which were also offered to Sanders) that gave Clinton some influence over press releases in return for helping resolve debt from 2012, but also insisted upon DNC impartiality.

I think you could argue that the DNC put the cart ahead of the horse in assuming Clinton would be the candidate, and having a Clinton acolyte like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz running things you could tell who was favored. But she still won more votes, more contests, more delegates (not even counting the "super delegates").

She was definitely a flawed candidate, and not one I really wanted to support. But Sanders had a lot of flaws, too. Not everyone wants a socialist revolution.

Yeah, I'd say it would be revisionist to say Bernie would have been the nominee without DNC interference given that the evidence is lacking to show that that's the case.

I think Hillary was likely to win even if all else had been equal, but with the DNC's finger on the scale to whatever degree it was and their clear preference for Hillary.. I'm sure it was all quite alienating to Bernie supporters.

 

[MT15]

If the DNC would quit rigging primaries and forcing candidates, the younger voters would not be so disillusioned.

They didn't want Hilary, they forced her on the Ballot.

They didn't want Biden, they forced him on the Ballot.

The 20-something voter block doesn't see a difference between democrats and republicans, and they shouldn't. The DNC leadership is filled with corporate shill empty suits. They run on social issues and they placate us with talk of progressivism whilst running a campaign, only to legislate in the interest of special interests and corporate lobbyists when they get elected.

Nobody forced Biden on the ballot, IMO. Superdelegates were largely done away with after 2016; they learned their lesson on that. The most you could say was that several of the other candidates decided to drop out fairly early in order to coalesce around Biden, but he was already leading by then, IIRC.

I see the Democratic Party as a pretty diverse group - so yes, they certainly have corporate types. However, they are trying to legislate according to what they campaigned on, and are being thwarted by arcane rules and very, very narrow control in both Houses. Even so, they have managed to do around 3 pretty big things and will probably still tackle prescription drug costs yet this year.

If they hold the House and pick up a Senate seat or two - and still get nothing done, then what you say will have merit, IMO. In the meantime, failing to vote for Democrats right now is the same thing as just kissing our form of government goodby - we will become Hungary.

 

[MT15]

 

[Farb]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/18/politics/cnn-poll-joe-biden-economy-us/index.html

CNN —
The summer of 2022 is a season of deepening and widespread discontent, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. The survey finds the public’s outlook on the state of the country the worst it’s been since 2009, while its view on the economy is the worst since 2011. And nearly 7 in 10 say President Joe Biden hasn’t paid enough attention to the nation’s most pressing problems.

Biden’s approval rating in the poll stands at 38%, with 62% disapproving. His approval ratings for handling the economy (30%) and inflation (25%) are notably lower. Rising costs are a primary economic pressure for most Americans: 75% call inflation and the cost of living the most important economic problem facing their family. Last summer, that figure stood at 43%.

As I said before, I hope the GOP is not dumb enough to push for an impeachment. At some point, I think after the gutting the DNC will take in the mid-terms, they will have to call for impeachment and that will be hilarious for them to spin it.

 

[SamAndreas]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/18/politics/cnn-poll-joe-biden-economy-us/index.html

CNN —
The summer of 2022 is a season of deepening and widespread discontent, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. The survey finds the public’s outlook on the state of the country the worst it’s been since 2009, while its view on the economy is the worst since 2011. And nearly 7 in 10 say President Joe Biden hasn’t paid enough attention to the nation’s most pressing problems.

Biden’s approval rating in the poll stands at 38%, with 62% disapproving. His approval ratings for handling the economy (30%) and inflation (25%) are notably lower. Rising costs are a primary economic pressure for most Americans: 75% call inflation and the cost of living the most important economic problem facing their family. Last summer, that figure stood at 43%.

As I said before, I hope the GOP is not dumb enough to push for an impeachment. At some point, I think after the gutting the DNC will take in the mid-terms, they will have to call for impeachment and that will be hilarious for them to spin it.

I don't know why you're posting about 2 bit useless polls Farb.

It's now been years since any polling outfit has been able to call people and not have the liberals and young people not hang up on the poll taker. That means every poll says the Republicans are going to win because the only people the poll takers talk to are old fart Republicans.

A month ago a Rasmussen phone robot called me. I hung up on it. As soon as I can detect that something is a robot, it is CLICK, an instant rejection.

The last three human poll takers who have called me during the last 5 or 6 years, I've hung up on them too. It's been years since I've allowed those kinds of people to consume my time. As soon as I figure out who they are I hang up on them.

I'm nice about it, I hang up without comment. Click! I don't yell at them or anything. Click!

Only old fart Republicans talk to the poll takers anymore. Everyone else just hangs up on them. Like they ought to do. Like I do. Like most of the people you know do.

 

[Farb]

I don't know why you're posting about 2 bit useless polls Farb.

It's now been years since any polling outfit has been able to call people and not have the liberals and young people not hang up on the poll taker. That means every poll says the Republicans are going to win because the only people the poll takers talk to are old fart Republicans.

A month ago a Rasmussen phone robot called me. I hung up on it. As soon as I can detect that something is a robot, it is CLICK, an instant rejection.

The last three human poll takers who have called me during the last 5 or 6 years, I've hung up on them too. It's been years since I've allowed those kinds of people to consume my time. As soon as I figure out who they are I hang up on them.

I'm nice about it, I hang up without comment. Click! I don't yell at them or anything. Click!

Only old fart Republicans talk to the poll takers anymore. Everyone else just hangs up on them. Like they ought to do. Like I do. Like most of the people you know do.

I posted a poll from the DNC media arm. I think it shows the DNC is about to let ole Joe go. I hope I am wrong.

 

[SamAndreas]

I posted a poll from the DNC media arm. I think it shows the DNC is about to let ole Joe go. I hope I am wrong.

I guess I didn't see the post where you did that. The only one I saw you post and commented on was that poll that was done for CNN in your post above.

I've never even heard of a DNC media arm.


I don't think there's any chance at all that the DNC will take a position other than to support Biden or Harris for reelection. If Democrats were to try to run anyone besides Biden or Harris the Republicans will end up holding the White House.

I can't think of any time were the incumbent for a Presidential election has been pushed aside and an upstart has won. I think there'd be a jinks on it.

The viable choices are Biden if he so chooses to run, or Harris running in his stead maintaining the incumbency. Anything else would just be a pipe dream by someone or other.

Changing horses in mid stream is just not done. There's no fixed rule about it, but it's just not done.

 

[Farb]

I guess I didn't see the post where you did that. The only one I saw you post and commented on was that poll that was done for CNN in your post above.

I've never even heard of a DNC media arm.


I don't think there's any chance at all that the DNC will take a position other than to support Biden or Harris for reelection. If Democrats were to try to run anyone besides Biden or Harris the Republicans will end up holding the White House.

I can't think of any time were the incumbent for a Presidential election has been pushed aside and an upstart has won. I think there'd be a jinks on it.

The viable choices are Biden if he so chooses to run, or Harris running in his stead maintaining the incumbency. Anything else would just be a pipe dream by someone or other.

Changing horses in mid stream is just not done. There's no fixed rule about it, but it's just not done.

Yeah, no, I was being tongue in cheek. In my biased mind, CNN is run by the DNC.

I understand what you are saying and you are correct but this time is different I think. I think Biden can not win. Even his party is pulling away from him. Harris has not shot at all. She is about as likeable and Pence. I think they are forced to change horses mid-stream.
I think the chances of them maintaining the white house is nil and they know that so they will have to change it up and let someone run that can maybe pull off a victory.

I am wrong a lot, so probably on this too but I just see a path for Biden or Harris to be in the running in 2024.