Biden stepping down - now what? (1 Viewer)

[zztop]

I feel like this deserves a separate topic.
What will be the plan for the DNC?
How will this all shake out?

 

[Krodwhodat]

1. Nobody is making decisions for the minor child. The patient has to be fully informed and totally on board. Nobody starts out with irreversible therapies either. You outlaw all this treatment until 18 there will be certain children who never make it to 18. You are fine to withhold this treatment from your own children, nobody will ever force treatment on your children. What you are saying is the government needs to withhold it from everyone’s children. Even if they commit suicide before they reach 18.

2. I’m sorry she was upset and scared. Still government mandates are not needed.

3. What you are saying is that you don’t care if some children are abused and made homeless because of this law, you want what you want and to hell with everyone else who isn’t in a good family situation.

1 - most minors aren’t capable of making these decisions like these or most. Would you let your child get married at 14 if she told you she loved the boy and it’s what she felt in her heart, would you let your 13 year old get pregnant if you and her sat with doctors and explained to her the pros and cons and she still wanted to?

 

[el caliente]

Patience, grasshopper.

I just want to know what can be, unburdened by what has been.

 

[Incumbent]

The 1% pay half of all federal income tax. The top 10% pay 2/3rds of all federal income tax. How much more do you want them to pay? Honest question. Should the top 10 pay 100% of the taxes and the lower 90 pay none?

This is why a flat tax is the only way at to revamp it all.

And look at the percentage of wealth they hold.

I’m unapologetically for the working class. I don’t make excuses for, or feel sympathy for, the ultra wealthy and corporations.

Either people make enough money to meet their needs without assistance or the government has to intervene. It’s a myth that merit works effectively in capitalism when capitalism is concerned with profits and not fairness.

To that extent, a flat tax is regressive and unfair to the people who can least afford it. I’m not worried about being “fair” to billionaires.

 

[SystemShock]

A year late and a dollar short.

In any case, I still think the election outside the GOP is about voting against Trump and what a 2nd Trump presidency would bring, and that women are going to decide the election.

At least it seems Kamala Harris can make it 4 years without dying of old age. Personally, I'd have liked to see Newsom, Buttgieg, or Jeffries as candidate (not necessarily in that order).

In any case, Joe Biden, thank you for your service to your country.

 

[LA - L.A.]

He’s an interesting option. The risk is putting his senate seat back in contention.

I had that same thought. If Mark Kelly is the VP, then hopefully his endorsement of a replacement Senator will help get the replacement elected.

 

[MT15]

1 - most minors aren’t capable of making these decisions like these or most. Would you let your child get married at 14 if she told you she loved the boy and it’s what she felt in her heart, would you let your 13 year old get pregnant if you and her sat with doctors and explained to her the pros and cons and she still wanted to?

Which is why it takes agreement from doctors, counselors, parents and patient. All have to agree.

Most of these therapies are not what you think - most are small doses of hormones that make a big difference in the mental health of the child. If it is going to be a big treatment, you have to get an entire team to agree. But the laws being proposed would take a sledgehammer to everything. You tell a parent who has seen a small hormone dose make a big change that they now have to go back to the way things were before.

Like I said, nobody will ever force anyone to have any of these treatments.

 

[bdb13]

I had that same thought. If Mark Kelly is the VP, then hopefully his endorsement of a replacement Senator will help get the replacement elected.

Someone said on CNN that the governor can appoint a replacement in Arizona.. and the governor is a Democrat.

 

[RobF]

You're really just dumping a load of low quality tweets in this thread, aren't you? Do you not know we already have SFL for that?

 

[SaintForLife]

You're really just dumping a load of low quality tweets in this thread, aren't you? Do you not know we already have SFL for that?

Don't you have some men pretending to be a woman to worry about?

 

[SamAndreas]

I've changed my mind lol.

Mark Kelly makes the most sense for VP.

Older, tough looking white dude who's a freaking astronaut? Yeah that's a good one.

How do you get Arizona to elect another Democrat to the US Senate in his stead?

In 2009 Obama taped their governor for a cabinet post and they elected this. Obama was sorry after the fact that he had done that.

 

[Incumbent]

I had that same thought. If Mark Kelly is the VP, then hopefully his endorsement of a replacement Senator will help get the replacement elected.

Plausible. And of course winning the presidency has to be the main goal. If Kelly’s positives help to that end the most, then he should get the call.

 

[MT15]

Harris’ campaign has filed the FEC paperwork. She takes over the Biden campaign money.

 

[el caliente]

You're really just dumping a load of low quality tweets in this thread, aren't you? Do you not know we already have SFL for that?

No, the quoted tweet was from the Daily Show.

And its topical.

 

[SamAndreas]

I think we need to revamp the system but I think part of the problem is the abuse with good insurance. I have friends that have insurance through Louisiana. They have a state job. They go to the doctor for any and everything. If their eye itches they go. I’d say why are going to the doctor for every little thing. Their response is our co-pay is $15 and emergency is $100. They do t realize what the doctors charge for that $15. I know many people like that. I have great insurance with a co-pay of $25 and haven’t been to the doctor in 5 years.

Was it like this?

 

[MT15]

So I have seen two things happening at the same time on Twitter. Several people, some media, some former Rs like Sarah Longwell, have posted that the Trump campaign is in shambles over this. They’re not sure they want to face Harris, they’re doubting their strategy of trying to get Biden out now.

At the same time random MAGAs in the comments are saying that’s not true - like they would know. And swearing they wanted Biden out because he’s harder to beat than Harris.

Just nice to see the chaos on the other side for a change.

 

[SystemShock]

We pay a lot now. Studies show we have a very inefficient and costly system when compared to other first world nations. And make no mistake, because of insurance companies, we have rationed care right now.

The problem is we have let the ultra wealthy and corporations go too long without contributing a more reasonable share, while sucking enormous amounts of wealth out of the economy.

I agree with the sentiment about insurance companies, but corporations do contribute to employees' health insurance in a number of ways. Corporations contribute matching funds to the price of health, vision, and life insurance of their employees. They also are able to negotiate better rates for employees, by contracting group insurance. Then even offer some relief after an employee is terminated/laid off/separates from a corporation with C.O.B.R.A.

Is it perfect? No. Equitable/just? Depends who you ask. But personally, I paid $800 a month for the best coverage I could get for my family while I was working, with the company I was working for contributing $600 (IIRC). When I retired, I could've signed up for C.O.B.R.A. for ~$1,500/month. If I were the get the same coverage by myself, it was ~$2,500/month.

And one thing about corporations... I get that people think corporations are made exclusively of Warren Buffets, Bill Gateses, Elon Musks, and CEO's who make millions. But corporations are also people like you or me, thousands of shareholders who own fractions of companies here and there.

 

[J-DONK]

Harris’ campaign has filed the FEC paperwork. She takes over the Biden campaign money.

I wonder how much of the Biden operation at the top she keeps?

 

[RobF]

I’d love to hear about it and how good their system is, wait times etc because I’m a stock holder in a Canadian company and its shirt. We actually offer a US insurance plan because we are close to the border

There's probably a more appropriate healthcare thread, but generally comparisons of major European healthcare systems to US show better outcomes at lower costs.

Anecdotally, in the UK, the healthcare system has seen my wife through two difficult pregnancies, and continuing health issues, managing my dad's diabetes for decades, and recently saved a friend's life after he had a heart attack due to chronic kidney disease; he had a transplant within weeks and is doing well now. And that's with the system struggling due to underfunding as a result of government austerity (the UK is currently spending about 10.9% of GDP on healthcare compared to the USA's 18.8%).

And all without any negotiating with insurers and providers and no bills.

Like I said, I don't think this is the thread for a discussion, and there's a fair mix of healthcare schemes out there, but there are very clearly viable alternatives to the US approach.