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    Excellent article I thought deserved its own thread
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    On the surface, it would appear that book censors and censored authors like myself can agree on one thing: Books are powerful.

    Particularly books for children and teens.

    Why else would people like me spend so much time and energy writing them?

    Why else would censors spend so much time and energy trying to keep them out of kids’ hands?

    In a country where the average adult is reading fewer and fewer books, it’s a surprise to find Americans arguing so much about them.

    In this election year, parents and politicians — so many politicians — are jumping into the fray to say how powerful books can be.

    Granted, politicians often make what I do sound like witchcraft, but I take this as a compliment.

    I’ll admit, one of my first thoughts about the current wildfire of attempted censorship was: How quaint.

    Conservatives seemed to be dusting off their playbook from 1958, when the only way our stories could get to kids was through schools and libraries.

    While both are still crucial sanctuaries for readers, they’re hardly the only options. Plenty of booksellers supply titles that are taken off school shelves.

    And words can be very widely shared free of charge on social media and the rest of the internet. If you take my book off a shelf, you keep it away from that shelf, but you hardly keep it away from readers.

    As censorship wars have raged in so many communities, damaging the lives of countless teachers, librarians, parents and children, it’s begun to feel less and less quaint.

    This is not your father’s book censorship…..

    Here’s something I never thought I’d be nostalgic for: sincere censors. When my first novel, “Boy Meets Boy,” was published in 2003, it was immediately the subject of many challenges, some of which kept the book from ever getting on a shelf in the first place.

    At the time, a challenge usually meant one parent trying to get a book pulled from a school or a library, going through a formal process.

    I often reminded myself to try to find some sympathy for these parents; yes, they were wrong, and their desire to control what other people in the community got to read was wrong — but more often than not, the challenge was coming from fear of a changing world, a genuine (if incorrect) belief that being gay would lead kids straight to ruination and hell, and/or the misbegotten notion that if all the books that challenged the (homophobic, racist) status quo went away, then the status quo would remain intact.

    It was, in some ways, as personal to them as it was to those of us on the other side of the challenge.

    And nine times out of 10, the book would remain on the shelf.

    It’s not like that now. What I’ve come to believe, as I’ve talked to authors and librarians and teachers, is that attacks are less and less about the actual books.

    We’re being used as targets in a much larger proxy war.

    The goal of that war isn’t just to curtail intellectual freedom but to eviscerate the public education system in this country.

    Censors are scorching the earth, without care for how many kids get burned.

    Racism and homophobia are still very much present, but it’s also a power grab, a money grab. The goal for many is a for-profit, more authoritarian and much less diverse culture, one in which truth is whatever you’re told it is, your identity is determined by its acceptability and the past is a lie that the future is forced to emulate.

    The politicians who holler and post and draw up their lists of “harmful” books aren’t actually scared of our books.

    They are using our books to scare people.

     
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    Moms for Liberty, an ultra-conservative parental rights outfit the Southern Poverty Law Center considers an extremist organization, is fighting to immediately remove five “obscene” library books from an Upstate New York public school, insisting they are simply too dangerous to keep on the shelves.

    The body of work being challenged supposedly “normalizes violence and abuse of women and children, depicts rape, equates violence and pain with pleasure, [and] encourages and normalizes early sexual activity among minors,” according to a petition filed this week in Wayne County Supreme Court by Moms for Libertyand an area evangelical pastor.

    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is set to appear Friday evening at an event hosted by the group.

    In their petition, the ardent culture warriorsclaim the books expose kids to “obscene depictions of sexually explicit acts.”

    The books in question include People Kill People, a YA novel by bestselling author Ellen Hopkins about the deleterious effects of gun violence; It Ends With Us, a romance novel by Colleen Hoover that was made into a Hollywood film starring Blake Lively; All Boys Aren’t Blue, a “memoir-manifesto” by journalist and LGBTQ activist George M. Johnson about his struggles growing up as a gay Black man; Red Hood by Elana K. Arnold, a retelling of Little Red Riding Hoodcentered on female empowerment; and Julia Scheeres’ Jesus Land: A Memoir, a New York Times bestseller about the author’s unpleasant childhood experience at a fundamentalist church camp…….

     
    Moms for Liberty, an ultra-conservative parental rights outfit the Southern Poverty Law Center considers an extremist organization, is fighting to immediately remove five “obscene” library books from an Upstate New York public school, insisting they are simply too dangerous to keep on the shelves.

    The body of work being challenged supposedly “normalizes violence and abuse of women and children, depicts rape, equates violence and pain with pleasure, [and] encourages and normalizes early sexual activity among minors,” according to a petition filed this week in Wayne County Supreme Court by Moms for Libertyand an area evangelical pastor.

    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is set to appear Friday evening at an event hosted by the group.

    In their petition, the ardent culture warriorsclaim the books expose kids to “obscene depictions of sexually explicit acts.”

    The books in question include People Kill People, a YA novel by bestselling author Ellen Hopkins about the deleterious effects of gun violence; It Ends With Us, a romance novel by Colleen Hoover that was made into a Hollywood film starring Blake Lively; All Boys Aren’t Blue, a “memoir-manifesto” by journalist and LGBTQ activist George M. Johnson about his struggles growing up as a gay Black man; Red Hood by Elana K. Arnold, a retelling of Little Red Riding Hoodcentered on female empowerment; and Julia Scheeres’ Jesus Land: A Memoir, a New York Times bestseller about the author’s unpleasant childhood experience at a fundamentalist church camp…….

    Moms For Liberty = MFL = two words that would violate the board's terms of service and Losers.
     
    Stephen King has given a blunt three word response to discovering that 23 of his books have been banned from school libraries in Florida, a law which is now being challenged by six major book publishers.

    In 2022, Florida governor Ron DeSantis signed a landmark legislation that targeted books which included any sexually explicit material, following complaints from conservative group Moms for Liberty.…

    The law was brought into effect in July 2023 and has seen noteworthy classics such as Brave New World by Aldous Huxley and The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain all removed from elementary, middle and high school libraries. Even non-fiction books like The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank has also been banned.

    Amongst the novels by King that have reportedly been banned include Carrie, It, The Gunslinger, The Running Man and The Long Walk.
    King, who is no stranger to voicing his political opinion, wrote in response to learning just how many of his books have been banned: “Florida has banned 23 pf [sic] my books. What the f***?”……


     
    I saw a tweet about a school district removing To Kill A Mockingbird because “it made students uncomfortable”. To which the first response was “That’s the entire forking purpose of the book”.

    I don’t know how we can recover from this idiocy.
     
    I saw a tweet about a school district removing To Kill A Mockingbird because “it made students uncomfortable”. To which the first response was “That’s the entire forking purpose of the book”.

    I don’t know how we can recover from this idiocy.
    My wife would be so pissed if that book was banned. That and the Crucible were her two favorite books to teach.
     
    Stephen King has given a blunt three word response to discovering that 23 of his books have been banned from school libraries in Florida, a law which is now being challenged by six major book publishers.

    In 2022, Florida governor Ron DeSantis signed a landmark legislation that targeted books which included any sexually explicit material, following complaints from conservative group Moms for Liberty.…

    The law was brought into effect in July 2023 and has seen noteworthy classics such as Brave New World by Aldous Huxley and The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain all removed from elementary, middle and high school libraries. Even non-fiction books like The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank has also been banned.

    Amongst the novels by King that have reportedly been banned include Carrie, It, The Gunslinger, The Running Man and The Long Walk.
    King, who is no stranger to voicing his political opinion, wrote in response to learning just how many of his books have been banned: “Florida has banned 23 pf [sic] my books. What the f***?”……


    how can anyone justify the law that says any parent or resident can object to the book, and it has to be removed within 5 days with no requirement that it has to be reviewd within a reasonable time frame or even return it even after its reviewd and does not violate the staute.
    Not even SFL and Farb could post enough Tweets to justify this kind of Authoritarian style stuff... But i bet they are 100% for this...
     
    The current defense is saying that none of the books are 'banned'

    Any parent is free to purchase any of these books for their children

    The books are just unavailable to check out from school libraries (and increasingly public libraries)

    So not a ban, just a 'removal'
     
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    The current defense is saying that none of the books are 'banned'

    Any parent is free to purchase any of these books for their children

    The books are just unavailable in school libraries (and increasingly public libraries)

    So not a ban, just a 'removal'
    Maybe they learned to parse words like that in a school library.

    Azzhats.
     
    The current defense is saying that none of the books are 'banned'

    Any parent is free to purchase any of these books for their children

    The books are just unavailable to check out from school libraries (and increasingly public libraries)

    So not a ban, just a 'removal'
    but is a ban. a ban fron the school.

    someone needs to fight dirty and just start flagging books about religeon and other things. sucks it would have to come down to that beacuse the children are the ones who have to suffer. but sometimes its the only way to make them see what they are doing..
     
    but is a ban. a ban fron the school.

    someone needs to fight dirty and just start flagging books about religeon and other things. sucks it would have to come down to that beacuse the children are the ones who have to suffer. but sometimes its the only way to make them see what they are doing..
    Flag every book that reflects on anything favorable about any place, event or person that had any connection to the southern states and the Confederacy during the Civil War, then watch how fast that law gets struck down, amended, and/or selectively enforced.
     
    The official first day of autumn doesn’t occur until the end of September. However, for most parents, the season of change begins with the new school year. Shopping for uniforms, pencils, and other school supplies is inherently linked to the season—almost as much as school reading lists. Year after year, school reading lists have ensured that students are nourished by classic literary works from writers of all backgrounds, which they can discuss and learn more about once the school year begins.

    It’s never been easy to find definitive stories by Black authors, like Maya Angelou’s I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings or Toni Morrison's Beloved, in school libraries. Despite this, the stories have persevered. But with book bans happening across the country, things are changing.

    Book bans have been occurring quietly since the fall of 2021. At the time, the American Library Association reported that the efforts to ban books were reaching unprecedented heights. Further data from PEN America, a non-profit organization focused on protecting free expression through literature, revealed that more than 10,000 book bans have occurred in public schools since the fall of 2021. The books that are being targeted are those by authors of color, works about race, racism, and even those that heavily feature diverse characters, including LGBTQ+ and people of color.

    While these bans are affecting school libraries at an alarming rate, many communities have been taking matters into their own hands to turn things around. In Philadelphia, Little Free(dom) Libraries were set up in various locations to provide access to Black stories. Now, parents all over are taking their own steps, fighting book bans, to ensure that classic books by Black authors remain a pillar in their children's lives.

    We consume media through various digital outlets, so it can be easy to think that ridding libraries of books poses little issue. However, stories told by Black authors hold a different kind of value during the important developmental stages of a child’s life. “Those stories breathe life into the unimaginable and often help kids see themselves in a positive light,” says Tahiirah Habibi, sommelier, founder of The Hue Society, and mother of an 8-year-old daughter. “Many authors such as Maya Angelou share lived experiences through their stories and characters that give you an important perspective of freedom, hope, and joy.”

    Most of us can recall a book or two that had that kind of impact. For LaShawn Wiltz, a digital creator and avid reader, the middle school years and the books discovered during them were crucial. “Before 6th grade, I had no idea that books by Black authors even existed,” she admits. Unsurprisingly, those early experiences helped shape not just her love of reading but also her strong passion for Black stories. “I discovered so many books that year solely because my library had an entire section dedicated to books by Black authors.”

    According to a PEN America report, more than 4,300 book bans have occurred in over 23 states and 52 public school districts from July 2023 to December 2023. That’s a 33% increase from the start of the bans, with a total of 33 states.

    “As a Black parent, the increase of efforts worries me, especially since I live in Georgia," Wiltz says. In the Southern state, Senate Bill 226 was signed into law in 2022, allowing parents and guardians to file complaints about the contents of textbooks and works in school libraries. "My son is in high school, but what if books like The Hate You Give, The Autobiography of Malcolm X, or The Bluest Eye are banned in his school? I think about the things I learned when I read these books," she adds. "The insight you get into lives not your own or even seeing your own life experiences reflected back to you on the page makes you a more open and broadminded person, and I want that experience for my child.”


    Removing that from children during fundamental years is an injustice, but as Habibi mentions, it also inhibits students of other races. “Kids of all cultures need insight into the Black experience just as much as Black children,” she says. “There is no experience like the Black experience in America, and banning books that explain that feels like a way to evade history." Macro-influencer Donnya Negera says these books do nothing but shed light, love, and knowledge, furthering a child's experiences.

    “It’s important to remember this is not just Black history, but American history that these efforts are aiming to erase,” she says..............


     
    More than 10,000 books were removed from school library shelves over the 2023-2024 school year, free expression advocacy group PEN America said in a new report released Monday at the start of national Banned Books Week. The tally marks a nearly triple-fold increase from the 3,362 bans in the previous school year.

    The count includes books both temporarily and indefinitely removed from shelves.

    About 8,000 of these book removals were recorded in just two states: Florida and Iowa. Both states have laws in place restricting content related to sex, gender and LGBTQ content.

    The book bans have overwhelmingly featured stories that are by or about people of color and the LGBTQ community, according to PEN America.

    The study also found that the book-banning efforts have increasingly restricted stories by and about women and girls, and include depictions of or topics concerning rape or sexual abuse.

    The restrictions have impacted titles by well-known authors including James Baldwin, Agatha Christie, Alice Walker, Jodi Picoult, Toni Morrison and more.

    PEN America predicts higher book removal totals are to come as more laws concerning content restriction are set to impact classrooms in the ongoing 2024-2025 year.

    This includes laws like Utah's H.B. 29, signed in March, which requires all schools to remove a book if school officials from at least three school districts or at least two school districts and five charter schools have determined that a book constitutes "objective sensitive material."

    Critics of these laws say they are akin to censorship, while supporters argue that these laws protect students from what they believe to be inappropriate content...........

     
    Mary, a high school English teacher of 20 years, has dealt with her share of parental objections toward books.

    From the mother who worried The Crucible contained witchcraft to the father who questioned Oscar Wilde’s The Picture of Dorian Gray because Wilde was gay, Mary has practiced explaining, advocating for, and negotiating her book selections over the decades.

    “Almost every English teacher will encounter parental complaints about a text choice at some point,” Mary described to me. “They are sometimes frustrating, but they are not typically difficult to handle.”

    They are also nothing like what many teachers today are up against, and not just in red states. The media spectacles that have been documented in school board meetings—and the countless quieter yet equally high-pressure scenes the public never sees—are far from over. In the course of working on a book, Teaching in a Time of Book Bans: Lessons From Teachers and Librarians, I interviewed school faculty from across the country about their recent experiences with censorship. For the majority, the problem comes from inside the institutions where they work.

    Mary’s school board greeted teachers back to work this year with a list of seven novels up for removal. This is simply business as usual in many districts. She plans to testify before her board but expects that one of her favorite books to teach, Beloved, will be cut. Without an appeals process, there will be nothing she can do. The book “will be gone forever” from her classroom library, thanks, as she sees it, to “a lot of power in the hands of a few board members.”

    Mary teaches in an American high school, but like the other educators in this story, she asked me not to identify her because she fears retribution from her school or district administrator. As her story suggests, it is not just the unprecedented number of book challenges over the past four years that has been so difficult, but the fact that the process and stakes have changed completely. Forty-one percent of book challenges in 2022 stemmed directly from school board and district administrators. “Parental rights” has become a major rallying call for conservatives, but in many cases, parents have little to do with the process.

    The dynamic has left teachers feeling vulnerable. To prevent conflict, they are self-censoring, well beyond the most controversial books. Some avoid literary works found in their textbooks because they fear class conversations about anything related to social politics. Those fears are well-founded. Mary’s principal reprimanded her colleague for teaching Sherman Alexie poems anthologized in her district-approved textbook. Another elected not to teach Martin Luther King Jr.’s classic “Letter From a Birmingham Jail,” convinced she would be unable to respond freely to student comments in class.

    Mary’s experiences provide texture to trends that big data is starting to show: Schools are censoring themselves. Even in states that lack divisive concepts laws regulating the teaching of so-called CRT, over half of teachers still report censoring themselves. Weak leadership and lack of administrative support—not parental or community activism—are the No. 1 reason teachers cite for altering, limiting, or otherwise censoring their instruction.

    Weakness does not equal passivity. In the high school where Laura served as librarian for almost 20 years, two principals refused to remove the graphic edition of Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale from the school’s library at a single parent’s request. Once district leaders became involved, the book and both principals were gone. Soon, the school’s librarians were ordered to pull 169 other books—the library’s entire LGBTQ+ collection—from the shelves. Laura recalls that a district official declared, “Moms for Liberty have the guns. We’re simply taking away their bullets.”....................

    In many ways, public schools are now operating like private schools historically have, easily beholden to their greatest donors. One of the most striking comparisons between the two is how similarly disenfranchised faculty can feel in both. Mahalia was the first Black librarian to be hired at her private school. When a white teacher colleague assigned her class to read Angie Thomas’ YA novel about police violence, The Hate U Give, and asked Mahalia to moderate the panel discussion, she agreed.

    Yet when just one parent complained that the school had taught an “anti-police novel,” it was Mahalia—and her library collection—that suffered the blame. Mahalia remembers her administration beginning to monitor her closely. “From then on,” she says, “my collection was analyzed and every programming idea or event I enacted for the student body was under high scrutiny.” More than once, she says, her principal demanded books be pulled from library shelves and put in a desk drawer.

    The twinned stories of racial and administrative aggression toward Mahalia began, in her words, with the fact that “a lot of the books on [her principal’s] list were by and for people like me.” In her principal’s pinpointed attempts to censure Mahalia personally, her story is unique from Mary’s and Laura’s. But like them, she began to feel adrift in her school community as her principal’s demands grew and the collection policies and procedures that should have guided the school’s responses were ignored.

    Schools are suffering for this now common neglect of democratic practice, starting with a hollowed-out curriculum and teacher burnout and disillusionment. Nationally, 82 percent of teachers believe conditions in K–12 education have grown worse in the past five years. Most see political climate as the primary cause. Nearly one-third of all teachers surveyed in a recent Pew report say they have considered looking for another job. But before we lose the actual people, we are already losing their expertise.


    Laura worked at her school for a year after the book bans started, and then left K–12 education. “During that time, I was questioned about every purchase [by a principal] who had a school administration degree and no training in the selection of materials for a school library,” she recounts. In two years, her former school will move into a new building, with no space dedicated for a library—or librarian—at all..................




     
    I feel so bad for these kids. It is so hard to fathom to be honest.

    My oldest's (15) public HS has a banned books section. It used to be historically banned books but now it includes all the major banned ones from around the country. That and the LGBTQ+ section are the most popular from the looks of the blown out shelves (BTS night was last week). Kids are reading! The horror!

    It's so weird to me. Here's a hint -

    If you are so worried that if your kid reads a book they will become gay; your kid is probably gay. Or you are. And it won't be the book that makes you gay. Being born you did that.

    Either way it is going to be fine if you let it be.
     
    I feel so bad for these kids. It is so hard to fathom to be honest.

    My oldest's (15) public HS has a banned books section. It used to be historically banned books but now it includes all the major banned ones from around the country. That and the LGBTQ+ section are the most popular from the looks of the blown out shelves (BTS night was last week). Kids are reading! The horror!

    It's so weird to me. Here's a hint -

    If you are so worried that if your kid reads a book they will become gay; your kid is probably gay. Or you are. And it won't be the book that makes you gay. Being born you did that.

    Either way it is going to be fine if you let it be.
    I don't think they're sincerely worried about children being turned LGTBQIA+ by the books. I think what they're really worried about is children being accepting and respectful to people who are LGTBQIA+. They don't want children to learn not to fear, hate and oppress people who are born that way. That's much much worse to me.
     
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    I don't think they're sincerely worried about children being turned LGTBQIA+ by the books. I think what they're really worried about is children being accepting and respectful to people who are gay. hey don't want children to learn not to fear, hate and oppress people who are born that way. That's much much worse to me.

    This 100% - They want kids to be ignorant of all social issues and be happy little workers who only do what they are told.
     
    I don't think they're sincerely worried about children being turned LGTBQIA+ by the books. I think what they're really worried about is children being accepting and respectful to people who are gay. hey don't want children to learn not to fear, hate and oppress people who are born that way. That's much much worse to me.
    you are mostly correct, they don't want their kids to accept them because by accepting them, THAT may turn them gay (you know, since they recruit people lol).
    My daughter did dance for like 14 years. My wifes best friend has a son, and when he was like 6, he really like to dance. So she wanted to sign him up for Hip Hop classes at the same studio my daughter went to. Her husband was adamant about not letting him because he didn't think boys should take dance. There were other boys his age in the class. I've known hin for a long time, and i know he isn't homophobic or anything like that, but his parents are homophobic and racist. I think he would accept his son if he turned out to be gay, but he is more worried about what his parents might think.. I am not sure whats worse..
     

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