Assassination attempt on Trump (2 Viewers)

[SaintForLife]

Trump is alive, but his ear was bleeding

 

[SaintForLife]

like some type of Forrest Gump turned assassin.
Yesterday I jokingly asked if law enforcement took selfies with him along the way, and now I'm really wondering...

 

[SaintForLife]

 

[efil4]

No, I don't. People are saying no one ever takes a head shot to kill but that is just not true depending on the obstructions, shot and protection. I am by no means saying this was not a single shooter/lone crazy wolf situation but to use the shot placement as a means to discredit a theory is just not accurate and it is dishonest.

no its not. To suggest otherwise is where the accuracy and dishonesty lie.

Snipers take head shots all the time, and will tell you that the miss ratio on a head shot is much higher than center mass.

Its the reason when you are training on rifle in the military, you are trained on center mass.

And using shot selection/placement is PART of developing a theory, NOT what the THEORY is based on. We now have enough additional info to properly say this kid was troubled and acting on his own.

If you arent willing to accept it, thats your choice. Keep looking for that info that conforms with your bias.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

yep shows the complete incompetence of everyone involved..

 

[Incumbent]

You think Republican rhetoric influenced him to kill Trump? . What Republican rhetoric would inspire someone to kill their parties nominee?

It’s already been said, but a lot of Republicans don’t support Trump. Many of them share the view that he’s a danger to our country. You’ve heard of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.

But I’m still of the speculative opinion that political differences weren’t the key motivating factor.

 

[efil4]

I've said the failures are so massive that you can't rule out that someone else was involved or helped him.

yes

yes you can.

unless you WANT there to be someone else involved.

Is there a "grassy knoll" in Butler?


good grief im lol.

 

[SaintForLife]

The development is odd because it suggests that multiple teams appeared to be looking at or toward Crooks who somehow managed to get off a clear shot on Trump.

Out of the four counter-sn*per teams, two were USSS, and two were local teams.

A "local marksman" also engaged but was not the one to fire the fatal shot.

I'm just wondering how there seemed to be multiple sn*per teams looking at Crooks yet he was able to get a perfect shot on Trump.

 

[SaintForLife]

 

[efil4]

The development is odd because it suggests that multiple teams appeared to be looking at or toward Crooks who somehow managed to get off a clear shot on Trump.

Out of the four counter-sn*per teams, two were USSS, and two were local teams.

A "local marksman" also engaged but was not the one to fire the fatal shot.

I'm just wondering how there seemed to be multiple sn*per teams looking at Crooks yet he was able to get a perfect shot on Trump.

ok i gotta do this AGAIN

the SNIPER in the close up- IS NOT USSS- it says POLICE.

do you understand this? yes or no?

you are posting a photo that shows " US Secret Service SNIPERS" - they were Local LE.


im formally asking Mods to remove that post. Its simply a lie. Parroted on here by a liar with NO commentary added. ( and when you address poster, he ignores the factual differences and doesnt reply )

This isnt how discourse/debate is done. Im tired of dealing with this dude. I have plenty of conservative friends and none act in this manner when we talk politics.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

It’s already been said, but a lot of Republicans don’t support Trump. Many of them share the view that he’s a danger to our country. You’ve heard of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.

But I’m still of the speculative opinion that political differences weren’t the key motivating factor.

i don't think it was they key motivation either. he was the school shooter type and saw his chance to one-up the everyday kind of shootings and decided to go big. he probably noticed security was laxed and realized he had his chance.
chances are if Biden was in town, we'd still be having this conversation..

 

[Incumbent]

The development is odd because it suggests that multiple teams appeared to be looking at or toward Crooks who somehow managed to get off a clear shot on Trump.

Out of the four counter-sn*per teams, two were USSS, and two were local teams.

A "local marksman" also engaged but was not the one to fire the fatal shot.

I'm just wondering how there seemed to be multiple sn*per teams looking at Crooks yet he was able to get a perfect shot on Trump.

Possible explanation: confusion combined with not knowing enough about site lines and the amount of time that passed from when Crooks was identified as a confirmed threat by LEO to snipers, exposed himself as a hittable target, and fired shots.

All of this can be traced back to the apparently poor job they did securing the scene and communicating.

 

[Incumbent]

chances are if Biden was in town, we'd still be having this conversation..

That’s the feeling I have.

For all we know, he might have had a plan to carry out a mass shooting at a high profile event, saw an opportunity to do something that would make him even more notorious, and when he realized nobody was going to question or harass him, came up with a plan and carried it out.

 

[efil4]

Possible explanation: confusion combined with not knowing enough about site lines and the amount of time that passed from when Crooks was identified as a confirmed threat by LEO to snipers, exposed himself as a hittable target, and fired shots.

All of this can be traced back to the apparently poor job they did securing the scene and communicating.

there is a post here - waaay back from a twitter thread from a former USSS agent about the "tiers" of protection.

I suggested folks read to understand how USSS and local LE work.

Im sure some read. I can assure you those that are looking to further a certain narrative, dismissed it entirely.

 

[samiam5211]

You think Republican rhetoric influenced him to kill Trump? . What Republican rhetoric would inspire someone to kill their parties nominee?

Is there even a shred of evidence that anyone's rhetoric inspired the shooter?

 

[Incumbent]

Is there even a shred of evidence that anyone's rhetoric inspired the shooter?

Nope. Not as of yet.

 

[FullMonte]

They do have a photo, it was a bullet, and I've thought so all along.

The wound is consistent with a bullet down to a personally observed fact that I saw the hole in his ear in another photo. A hole in his ear which is almost exactly the diameter of those bullets.

0.225 inches in diameter to be exact.

If that photo showing the bullet is enlarged enough on the screen it's there. That was the first thing I did when I saw that photo and didn't see the bullet they were talking about. A small sized photo doesn't show detail an enlarged photo will.

Why quibble over this???

I'm not sure if you did it on purpose, but you apparently missed half of a sentence.

I said " They also claim that we have a photo of a bullet striking Trump." Unless there is a photo that's been released that I haven't seen, there is no photo of a bullet striking Trump. There is a photo of what appears to be a bullet that has passed Trump, but we don't see it strike him.

As far as quibbling, I'm not. I said at the very beginning of my post that I wasn't taking a side (mainly because I don't think it's a big deal about which way Trump was injured). I was simply pointing out, in a reply to someone who said that Snopes said it was false, that what they claim as evidence is either from a disreputable source or doesn't exist.

 

[FullMonte]

Okay. But whenever we see his ear again, if we ever do lol, I’m going to be interested in seeing a bullet hole or some sort of damage consistent with it. Until then I will assume Trump is lying. That assumption hasn’t led me astray yet.

According to Ronnie Jackson Johnson, the bullet tore the top of Trump's ear off.

 

[FullMonte]

Not just that, a 20 year old that was rejected from his highschool rifle team.

Sounds like exactly the type of guy the CIA/SS/NSA/LGB/LSMFT would have hired and sent to their super secret sniper marksman perfect shot training school for this type of plot.