Assassination attempt on Trump (2 Viewers)

[SaintForLife]

Trump is alive, but his ear was bleeding

 

[SaintForLife]

Technically, don’t we only know that a donation was made in his name?

Trusting that it was him, making the donation on Inauguration Day is peculiar timing. Could he have been making good on a bet?

I doubt we’ll ever know. I also don’t think it’s necessarily as informative about him as people want to make it out to be.

Making good on a bet? Where did that come from? That seems like an odd explanation for a political donation.

 

[DaveXA]

But Trump is a public figure, running for public office. They would at least mention where they took him.

After an assassination attempt? Uh, nah. Maybe the next day or something, but certainly not the same day he's been admitted. I'm not sure why it's important anyway tho.

 

[J-DONK]

I said he seemed like a Democrat.

You still never answered the question. What kind of Republican donates to a Democrat group? You refuse to answer the question, but you throw hissy fits when I don't say what you want me to.

Someone made fun of you over this question, and you didn't get it. What kind of Republican donates to a Democrat group? Donald Trump. That's what makes this point seem so dumb.

I think it's more likely that he registered republican after donating to the Democrat group was to vote for Haley on the primary. We don't know anything for sure right now. He could be like some other shooters who had mixed political leanings.

I see that you are desperate to get me or someone else who supports Trump to say that he was Democrat so you can continue your epic talking point that "a republican tried to kill a republican. How is that the Democrats fault"

It allows you to ignore to deflect from the Trump is a traitor and Russian agent, Trump is Hitler, Trump will end democracy talk by the left.

You have one data point for "mixed political leanings". Everything else coming out is that he was a conserative.

I get it. You won't admit fault. I already outlined the reason why.

 

[Incumbent]

Making good on a bet? Where did that come from? That seems like an odd explanation for a political donation.

I didn’t hide that it was speculation, I offered as a theory given the timing of the donation. Do you make political contributions at the conclusion of elections? The actual point is that without any more context, a donation is just a puzzle piece that might or might not fit in helping us understand who he was.

 

[DaveXA]

How am I wrong? Are you saying he didn't make a donation to the Democrat group?

Still denser than iron.

 

[SaintForLife]

Someone made fun of you over this question, and you didn't get it. What kind of Republican donates to a Democrat group? Donald Trump. That's what makes this point seem so dumb.

Great answer lol. Now back to you demanding I agree with you!

You have one data point for "mixed political leanings". Everything else coming out is that he was a conserative.

I get it. You won't admit fault. I already outlined the reason why.

What does it change if he is a conservative except you can use your talking point?

 

[SaintForLife]

I didn’t hide that it was speculation, I offered as a theory given the timing of the donation. Do you make political contributions at the conclusion of elections? The actual point is that without any more context, a donation is just a puzzle piece that might or might not fit in helping us understand who he was.

Gotcha. I've seen someone else mention a donation so I was wondering where it came from.

I've never heard of someone making a political donation if they lost a bet.

 

[J-DONK]

Great answer lol. Now back to you demanding I agree with you!

What does it change if he is a conservative except you can use your talking point?

It makes your point about liberal rhetoric causing this violence moot.

The most likely answer are:

1. He was just crazy like Hinckley.
2. He was some kind of groyper type.(He fits this profile to a T.)

 

[coldseat]

I didn’t hide that it was speculation, I offered as a theory given the timing of the donation. Do you make political contributions at the conclusion of elections? The actual point is that without any more context, a donation is just a puzzle piece that might or might not fit in helping us understand who he was.

That was my huntch as well. His mom is a registered Democrat, so he could have lost a bet to her. That's why it was made on inauguration day.

Regardless he didn't seem very extreme in his politics. I don't think it had much to do with why he chose to do this.

 

[Incumbent]

Gotcha. I've seen someone else mention a donation so I was wondering where it came from.

I've never heard of someone making a political donation if they lost a bet.

I’ve never heard of anyone making a donation on Inauguration Day.

A hypothetical about losing a bet was just to demonstrate we don’t know the context behind why a 16 or 17 year old (not certain on the birthday math) made a lone political donation. We can’t even know for certain he made the donation, just that it’s in his name.

Here, I’ll flip it. We know that Pennsylvania is a closed primary state, so maybe he registered Republican because he hates Trump and wanted to vote against him in the primary. There are, however, reports he expressed conservative views, but reports can be misleading.

My point is that I wouldn’t make too much of anything this early on. That said, there’s nothing so far that supports the idea that he was an angry leftist.

I’m already on record that it won’t surprise me if this was less about ideology and more about other factors.

 

[SaintForLife]

It makes your point about liberal rhetoric causing this violence moot.

The most likely answer are:

1. He was just crazy like Hinckley.
2. He was some kind of groyper type.(He fits this profile to a T.)

Do you think only Democrats can be influenced by liberals? What if he was a never trump republican? Could that liberal rhetoric influence a never trump republican? Is that possible?

Do you think it's okay, appropriate, accurate to say about Trump:

-he is or like Hitler
-he will end democracy
-he is a danger and existential threat to our country and way of life?
-he will jail journalists
-he will jail his political opponents
-he will execute people
-he will put people in concentration camps
-he is a Russian agent
-he is a traitor

 

[Farb]

Biden doesn't have a say in SS details of other former Presidents. That's strictly under the purview of the SS. Anyone telling you otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

Do you mean just for ex-presidents? I ask because today, Biden just order the SS to provide security to RFK (canidate) and also beef up the SS at the RNC (Trump). For someone who has no say, he is saying and they doing as ordered. Odd.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-election-rfk-baf2281a888d736a50d78a3ae4188521

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-shooting-update-joe-biden-secret-service-instructions-1925003

 

[J-DONK]

I’ve never heard of anyone making a donation on Inauguration Day.

A hypothetical about losing a bet was just to demonstrate we don’t know the context behind why a 16 or 17 year old (not certain on the birthday math) made a lone political donation. We can’t even know for certain he made the donation, just that it’s in his name.

Here, I’ll flip it. We know that Pennsylvania is a closed primary state, so maybe he registered Republican because he hates Trump and wanted to vote against him in the primary. There are, however, reports he demonstrated conservative views, but reports can be misleading.

My point is that I wouldn’t make too much of anything this early on. That said, there’s nothing so far that supports the idea that he was an angry leftist.

I’m already on record that it won’t surprise me if this was less about ideology and more about other factors.

He had zero online presence. We won't really know until the FBI releases his browing history, and communications.

There is a single weak data point for him being a liberal. I'm still not sure SFL understands making a donation to a generic PAC after the election doesn't scream "I'm liberal" like he imagines.

 

[el caliente]

Yeah, I actually did a quick search before I posted there to see if Hitler talked about genocide prior to taking power and it appears that he did not.. and so I do understand the parallel there.

It's just difficult to separate out the death camps from it when the parallels are to the path Hitler took to death camps, you know?

I get it.. I just think there's got to be a better way to put words to it..

Indeed. Running around calling everyone Hitler seems lazy, and poorly thought out.

Several Presidents and Presidential candidates in my lifetime have been called Hitler, and yet they never turned out to be Hitler or anywhere close.

 

[Farb]

Greg, 150 yards is a fair distance for a long rifle. I would describe it as being at the outer limit for accurate shooting with an AR short barreled 'long rifle'.

Basically an AR is a carbine, not an accurate shooting long rifle one should be using for 150 yard shots. Folks in the rally perimeter packing pistols might as well have spit wads for all they could do about it from 150 yards away.

All do respect, this is wrong Sam. 300 yards is effective range for an AR with iron sights. Not sure if the shooter had optics, I am sure he did so 150 is an easy shot. An incredibly easy shot with optics. I did read that the shooter tried out for his school's rifle team and didn't make the team, so there is that.

 

[Incumbent]

He had zero online presence. We won't really know until the FBI releases his browing history, and communications.

There is a single weak data point for him being a liberal. I'm still not sure SFL understands making a donation to a generic PAC after the election doesn't scream "I'm liberal" like he imagines.

Yeah, and even then, I don’t think we know enough about him to predict how conclusive any of those findings will be. Shared devices? Savvy internet user? Investigators might not be able get past conjecture.

Personal interviews with family, friends, and teachers might yield a clearer picture, but that’s not without flaws, too.

 

[J-DONK]

Do you think only Democrats can be influenced by liberals? What if he was a never trump republican? Could that liberal rhetoric influence a never trump republican? Is that possible?

Do you think it's okay, appropriate, accurate to say about Trump:

-he is or like Hitler
-he will end democracy
-he is a danger and existential threat to our country and way of life?
-he will jail journalists
-he will jail his political opponents
-he will execute people
-he will put people in concentration camps
-he is a Russian agent
-he is a traitor

Isn't it far more likely someone like Nick Fuentes influenced him instead of Morning Joe?

What about all these Republican ads with guns?

Why are you not making post about that?

It's very odd to have a Republican on Republican violence, and then ONLY talk about Democrat messaging.

 

[DaveXA]

Gotcha. I've seen someone else mention a donation so I was wondering where it came from.

I've never heard of someone making a political donation if they lost a bet.

Lmao, you need to get out more. I had friends who would bet their cantldidate would win, and the loser would make a donation to the opponents party. Hell, there are places you can bet money on will win a given election. People also do prop bets all the time. And I'm not ever a gambler. I know a few who do tho.