All things Racist...USA edition (1 Viewer)

[Farb]

I was looking for a place to put this so we could discuss but didn't really find a place that worked so I created this thread so we can all place articles, experiences, videos and examples of racism in the USA.

This is one that happened this week. The lady even called and filed a complaint on the officer. This officer also chose to wear the body cam (apparently, LA doesn't require this yet). This exchange wasn't necessarily racist IMO until she started with the "mexican racist...you will never be white, like you want" garbage. That is when it turned racist IMO

All the murderer and other insults, I think are just a by product of CRT and ACAB rhetoric that is very common on the radical left and sadly is being brought to mainstream in this country.

Another point that I think is worth mentioning is she is a teacher and the sense of entitlement she feels is mind blowing.

https://news.yahoo.com/black-teacher-berates-latino-la-221235341.html

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I don't plan to run for office as a democrat so I can't say. I would suggest asking several left politicians about that out.

Zing! There's a major difference between how you view it and how I view it.

Can you say that about all the 'kid friendly' drag shows across the country?

No, I can't, and here's how we view things differently. You are viewing this as a game. As long as you can stand against Democrats and liberals, you are winning, no matter what the topic or point of debate is.

I, on the other hand, have no problem calling out bullshirt no matter where it happens or who does it. Republican in blackface? That's some bullshirt. Democrat in blackface? Just as much bullshirt.

All ages drag queen shows that put on appropriate performances? Awesome. All ages drag queen shows that cross the line and put on unsuitable performances? That's not cool.

 

[SaintForLife]

You’ve never ever proved there was any government telling them what to censor. Never ever once

Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinformation

Under the guise of counterterrorism, the government is accelerating pressure on social media companies to crack down on speech the feds deem disinformation.

theintercept.com

I know no matter what evidence you are shown on whatever subject you will continue to deny it.

For example, eas the Obama administration illegally spying on American citizens as Snowden showed?

 

[SaintForLife]

It is not my definition of censorship. And based on the definition of censorship, I'd say just about everyone is ok with the government banning something.


Good for you to find the black guy. The very first sentence of that quote tells me all I need to know, because that's not what CRT proposes. And frankly, CRT shouldn't even be some sort of high academic discussion; it seems very obvious to me that when a group of people is oppressed by another group or groups, whether it is because of race, sex, religion, etc. that the oppressed group will experience adverse societal, educational, and/or economic effects. Like, really, duh!

Of course, you have no issue with the government banning CRT, because you are against it... or maybe I missed your post in which you condemn State governments' censorship of CRT?

Is John McWhorter not credible to you because he is black and he also called out the CRT or as he puts it CRT lite being taught I'm schools? Is he lying about these examples of CRT in schools? What about his description of CRT/CRT lite is not accurate?

In Virginia itself, the Department of Education’s website has a page devoted to “Anti-racism in Education,” and at the end of a long list of “Terms and Definitions” it reads, “Drawing from critical race theory, the term ‘white supremacy’ also refers to a political or socio-economic system where white people enjoy structural advantage and rights that other racial and ethnic groups do not, both at a collective and an individual level.”

In the 2022 draft revision of the California Department of Education’s “Mathematics Framework,” the chapter on “Teaching for Equity and Engagement” includes this language: “Empowering students with mathematics also includes removing the high stakes of errors and sending the message that learning is always unfinished and that it is safe to take mathematical risks. This mind-set creates the conditions for students to develop a sense of ownership over their mathematical thinking and their right to belong to the discipline of mathematics” — a truly artful way of saying that “diverse” kids should not be saddled with the onerous task of having to get the actual answers.

In February, the Oregon Department of Education sent an update to math educators that linked to a document titled “A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction/Dismantling Racism in Mathematics Instruction.” It contains a section on “Deconstructing Racism in Mathematics Instruction” positing that “white supremacy culture in the mathematics classroom can show up” in a variety of ways, including when “Preconceived expectations are steeped in the dominant culture,” “Superficial curriculum changes are offered in place of culturally relevant pedagogy and practice” and “Students are required to ‘show their work’ in standardized, prescribed ways.”

Perhaps a reasonable objection would be that these are only teacher guidelines and that we cannot know exactly how, or whether, teachers are adhering to them in classrooms. But these guidelines, apparently sanctioned by state departments of education, contradict the notion that concepts derived from critical race theory — or are, at least, C.R.T.-lite — is nowhere near our schools, that the C.R.T.-in-schools debate “isn’t real,” merely a fiction designed to cloak racism.

In some cases, evidence of C.R.T.-lite is easier to spot at various private schools. Granted, governors can’t “ban” private school curriculums, but the experience at some tony New York prep schools, for instance, demonstrates how C.R.T.-lite isn’t simply found in teacher trainings but can make its way into the classroom and schools’ educational philosophy. As The Times reported earlier this year:

The Brearley School declared itself an antiracist school with mandatory antiracism training for parents, faculty and trustees, and affirmed the importance of meeting regularly in groups that bring together people who share a common race or gender.

Kindergarten students at Riverdale Country School in the Bronx are taught to identify their skin color by mixing paint colors. The lower-school chief in an email last year instructed parents to avoid talk of colorblindness and “acknowledge racial differences.”

If it’s not C.R.T., it’s C.R.T.-lite

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Is John McWhorter not credible to you because he is black and he also called out the CRT or as he puts it CRT lite being taught I'm schools? Is he lying about these examples of CRT in schools? What about his description of CRT/CRT lite is not accurate?

In Virginia itself, the Department of Education’s website has a page devoted to “Anti-racism in Education,” and at the end of a long list of “Terms and Definitions” it reads, “Drawing from critical race theory, the term ‘white supremacy’ also refers to a political or socio-economic system where white people enjoy structural advantage and rights that other racial and ethnic groups do not, both at a collective and an individual level.”

In the 2022 draft revision of the California Department of Education’s “Mathematics Framework,” the chapter on “Teaching for Equity and Engagement” includes this language: “Empowering students with mathematics also includes removing the high stakes of errors and sending the message that learning is always unfinished and that it is safe to take mathematical risks. This mind-set creates the conditions for students to develop a sense of ownership over their mathematical thinking and their right to belong to the discipline of mathematics” — a truly artful way of saying that “diverse” kids should not be saddled with the onerous task of having to get the actual answers.

In February, the Oregon Department of Education sent an update to math educators that linked to a document titled “A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction/Dismantling Racism in Mathematics Instruction.” It contains a section on “Deconstructing Racism in Mathematics Instruction” positing that “white supremacy culture in the mathematics classroom can show up” in a variety of ways, including when “Preconceived expectations are steeped in the dominant culture,” “Superficial curriculum changes are offered in place of culturally relevant pedagogy and practice” and “Students are required to ‘show their work’ in standardized, prescribed ways.”

Perhaps a reasonable objection would be that these are only teacher guidelines and that we cannot know exactly how, or whether, teachers are adhering to them in classrooms. But these guidelines, apparently sanctioned by state departments of education, contradict the notion that concepts derived from critical race theory — or are, at least, C.R.T.-lite — is nowhere near our schools, that the C.R.T.-in-schools debate “isn’t real,” merely a fiction designed to cloak racism.

In some cases, evidence of C.R.T.-lite is easier to spot at various private schools. Granted, governors can’t “ban” private school curriculums, but the experience at some tony New York prep schools, for instance, demonstrates how C.R.T.-lite isn’t simply found in teacher trainings but can make its way into the classroom and schools’ educational philosophy. As The Times reported earlier this year:

The Brearley School declared itself an antiracist school with mandatory antiracism training for parents, faculty and trustees, and affirmed the importance of meeting regularly in groups that bring together people who share a common race or gender.

Kindergarten students at Riverdale Country School in the Bronx are taught to identify their skin color by mixing paint colors. The lower-school chief in an email last year instructed parents to avoid talk of colorblindness and “acknowledge racial differences.”

If it’s not C.R.T., it’s C.R.T.-lite

Why should someone in Madisonville care what is taught in California? Somehow I doubt you would appreciate Californians dictating what is taught in St. Tammany Parish schools.

 

[bird]

Is John McWhorter not credible to you because he is black and he also called out the CRT or as he puts it CRT lite being taught I'm schools? Is he lying about these examples of CRT in schools? What about his description of CRT/CRT lite is not accurate?

In Virginia itself, the Department of Education’s website has a page devoted to “Anti-racism in Education,” and at the end of a long list of “Terms and Definitions” it reads, “Drawing from critical race theory, the term ‘white supremacy’ also refers to a political or socio-economic system where white people enjoy structural advantage and rights that other racial and ethnic groups do not, both at a collective and an individual level.”

In the 2022 draft revision of the California Department of Education’s “Mathematics Framework,” the chapter on “Teaching for Equity and Engagement” includes this language: “Empowering students with mathematics also includes removing the high stakes of errors and sending the message that learning is always unfinished and that it is safe to take mathematical risks. This mind-set creates the conditions for students to develop a sense of ownership over their mathematical thinking and their right to belong to the discipline of mathematics” — a truly artful way of saying that “diverse” kids should not be saddled with the onerous task of having to get the actual answers.

In February, the Oregon Department of Education sent an update to math educators that linked to a document titled “A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction/Dismantling Racism in Mathematics Instruction.” It contains a section on “Deconstructing Racism in Mathematics Instruction” positing that “white supremacy culture in the mathematics classroom can show up” in a variety of ways, including when “Preconceived expectations are steeped in the dominant culture,” “Superficial curriculum changes are offered in place of culturally relevant pedagogy and practice” and “Students are required to ‘show their work’ in standardized, prescribed ways.”

Perhaps a reasonable objection would be that these are only teacher guidelines and that we cannot know exactly how, or whether, teachers are adhering to them in classrooms. But these guidelines, apparently sanctioned by state departments of education, contradict the notion that concepts derived from critical race theory — or are, at least, C.R.T.-lite — is nowhere near our schools, that the C.R.T.-in-schools debate “isn’t real,” merely a fiction designed to cloak racism.

In some cases, evidence of C.R.T.-lite is easier to spot at various private schools. Granted, governors can’t “ban” private school curriculums, but the experience at some tony New York prep schools, for instance, demonstrates how C.R.T.-lite isn’t simply found in teacher trainings but can make its way into the classroom and schools’ educational philosophy. As The Times reported earlier this year:

The Brearley School declared itself an antiracist school with mandatory antiracism training for parents, faculty and trustees, and affirmed the importance of meeting regularly in groups that bring together people who share a common race or gender.

Kindergarten students at Riverdale Country School in the Bronx are taught to identify their skin color by mixing paint colors. The lower-school chief in an email last year instructed parents to avoid talk of colorblindness and “acknowledge racial differences.”

If it’s not C.R.T., it’s C.R.T.-lite

It is also bullschlitz on your part. But cower little scared boy.

 

[coldseat]

Is John McWhorter not credible to you because he is black and he also called out the CRT or as he puts it CRT lite being taught I'm schools? Is he lying about these examples of CRT in schools? What about his description of CRT/CRT lite is not accurate?

In Virginia itself, the Department of Education’s website has a page devoted to “Anti-racism in Education,” and at the end of a long list of “Terms and Definitions” it reads, “Drawing from critical race theory, the term ‘white supremacy’ also refers to a political or socio-economic system where white people enjoy structural advantage and rights that other racial and ethnic groups do not, both at a collective and an individual level.”

In the 2022 draft revision of the California Department of Education’s “Mathematics Framework,” the chapter on “Teaching for Equity and Engagement” includes this language: “Empowering students with mathematics also includes removing the high stakes of errors and sending the message that learning is always unfinished and that it is safe to take mathematical risks. This mind-set creates the conditions for students to develop a sense of ownership over their mathematical thinking and their right to belong to the discipline of mathematics” — a truly artful way of saying that “diverse” kids should not be saddled with the onerous task of having to get the actual answers.

In February, the Oregon Department of Education sent an update to math educators that linked to a document titled “A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction/Dismantling Racism in Mathematics Instruction.” It contains a section on “Deconstructing Racism in Mathematics Instruction” positing that “white supremacy culture in the mathematics classroom can show up” in a variety of ways, including when “Preconceived expectations are steeped in the dominant culture,” “Superficial curriculum changes are offered in place of culturally relevant pedagogy and practice” and “Students are required to ‘show their work’ in standardized, prescribed ways.”

Perhaps a reasonable objection would be that these are only teacher guidelines and that we cannot know exactly how, or whether, teachers are adhering to them in classrooms. But these guidelines, apparently sanctioned by state departments of education, contradict the notion that concepts derived from critical race theory — or are, at least, C.R.T.-lite — is nowhere near our schools, that the C.R.T.-in-schools debate “isn’t real,” merely a fiction designed to cloak racism.

In some cases, evidence of C.R.T.-lite is easier to spot at various private schools. Granted, governors can’t “ban” private school curriculums, but the experience at some tony New York prep schools, for instance, demonstrates how C.R.T.-lite isn’t simply found in teacher trainings but can make its way into the classroom and schools’ educational philosophy. As The Times reported earlier this year:

The Brearley School declared itself an antiracist school with mandatory antiracism training for parents, faculty and trustees, and affirmed the importance of meeting regularly in groups that bring together people who share a common race or gender.

Kindergarten students at Riverdale Country School in the Bronx are taught to identify their skin color by mixing paint colors. The lower-school chief in an email last year instructed parents to avoid talk of colorblindness and “acknowledge racial differences.”

If it’s not C.R.T., it’s C.R.T.-lite

McWhorter is not a credible source. He's become an anti-CRT critic who enjoys going on Fox, for whatever reason. I assume because it pays well.

His arguments are exaggerated or lack basis. And some of the stuff he point out in that article isn't even wrong or concerning.

 

[SaintForLife]

McWhorter is not a credible source. He's become an anti-CRT critic who enjoys going on Fox, for whatever reason. I assume because it pays well.

His arguments are exaggerated or lack basis. And some of the stuff he point out in that article isn't even wrong or concerning.

I remember his saying a few months ago that he's never been on Fox News and won't for the exact reason you just used to try to discredit him.

Ah the nonspecific message board criticism. Yawn

 

[SystemShock]

Is John McWhorter not credible to you because he is black and he also called out the CRT or as he puts it CRT lite being taught I'm schools? Is he lying about these examples of CRT in schools? What about his description of CRT/CRT lite is not accurate?

Like I said, first sentence; a complete misrepresentation of what CRT is.

"what alarms many parents and other observers is that kids will absorb the idea that it is enlightened to see white people as potential oppressors and Black people as perpetual victims"

In the 2022 draft revision of the California Department of Education’s “Mathematics Framework,” the chapter on “Teaching for Equity and Engagement” includes this language: “Empowering students with mathematics also includes removing the high stakes of errors and sending the message that learning is always unfinished and that it is safe to take mathematical risks. This mind-set creates the conditions for students to develop a sense of ownership over their mathematical thinking and their right to belong to the discipline of mathematics” — a truly artful way of saying that “diverse” kids should not be saddled with the onerous task of having to get the actual answers.

How in the world do you get that last sentence from that paragraph?

In February, the Oregon Department of Education sent an update to math educators that linked to a document titled “A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction/Dismantling Racism in Mathematics Instruction.” It contains a section on “Deconstructing Racism in Mathematics Instruction” positing that “white supremacy culture in the mathematics classroom can show up” in a variety of ways, including when “Preconceived expectations are steeped in the dominant culture,” “Superficial curriculum changes are offered in place of culturally relevant pedagogy and practice” and “Students are required to ‘show their work’ in standardized, prescribed ways.”

Even if the above was true, what does it have to do with actual CRT?

 

[MT15]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ju...ollusion-big-tech-censor-speech?intcmp=tw_fnc

Why would she fight aiding in an investigation? Remember, the new rule in American is if you are innocent, you bend over backwards to talk to the those that have questions, you are innocent therefore have nothing to hide. Right?

This isn’t an investigation- it’s a lawsuit. It’s a fishing expedition filed for political purposes.

 

[MT15]

I remember his saying a few months ago that he's never been on Fox News and won't for the exact reason you just used to try to discredit him.

Ah the nonspecific message board criticism. Yawn

He’s been on FOX, I think you may be referring to him saying he wouldn’t promote his book on FOX.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

You have not gone out bar hopping much on Halloween have you lately? Most of the costumes worn on Halloween would not be appropriate at any school or work. Covering private areas on the human body is an accomplishment.

If Suzi wore a sexy nurse or sexy fire fighter on a random Tuesday and went into a starbucks, she may get some stares, and some laughs or even some noses turned up, but if you wear a Hitler costume to Starbucks on a random Tuesday, it will not be recieved as funny or tasteless. it will be viewed and treated very harsh and probaly be verbally attacked from many people. i employ you to test this out, wear a nazi uniform anywhere in public and see what happens. any day of the year, even Halloween.
i guarantee if i was hosting a Halloween Party (as i do a lot of times) and someone showed up dressed like that, they would be told (not asked) to leave. hell, i wouldn't even have a problem with black face as long as its not a parody or mocking someone. like if a white guy showed up dressed as Clubber Lang and his friend was dressed as Rocky Balboa, that wouldn't bother me at all.
Dressing up in a Nazi/Hitler is no different that wearing a KKK outfit. there is only ONE reason they woud do it, and ONE reason only, for the sole purpose of HATE.

 

[coldseat]

I remember his saying a few months ago that he's never been on Fox News and won't for the exact reason you just used to try to discredit him.

Ah the nonspecific message board criticism. Yawn

Yawn is exactly what I think of all the anti-CRT you guys are constantly trying to scare people with.

 

[RobF]

I remember his saying a few months ago that he's never been on Fox News

 

[el caliente]

Not sure if this goes here, but holy crap, what a cluster fork.

 

[bird]

Is John McWhorter not credible to you because he is black and he also called out the CRT or as he puts it CRT lite being taught I'm schools? Is he lying about these examples of CRT in schools? What about his description of CRT/CRT lite is not accurate?

In Virginia itself, the Department of Education’s website has a page devoted to “Anti-racism in Education,” and at the end of a long list of “Terms and Definitions” it reads, “Drawing from critical race theory, the term ‘white supremacy’ also refers to a political or socio-economic system where white people enjoy structural advantage and rights that other racial and ethnic groups do not, both at a collective and an individual level.”

In the 2022 draft revision of the California Department of Education’s “Mathematics Framework,” the chapter on “Teaching for Equity and Engagement” includes this language: “Empowering students with mathematics also includes removing the high stakes of errors and sending the message that learning is always unfinished and that it is safe to take mathematical risks. This mind-set creates the conditions for students to develop a sense of ownership over their mathematical thinking and their right to belong to the discipline of mathematics” — a truly artful way of saying that “diverse” kids should not be saddled with the onerous task of having to get the actual answers.

In February, the Oregon Department of Education sent an update to math educators that linked to a document titled “A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction/Dismantling Racism in Mathematics Instruction.” It contains a section on “Deconstructing Racism in Mathematics Instruction” positing that “white supremacy culture in the mathematics classroom can show up” in a variety of ways, including when “Preconceived expectations are steeped in the dominant culture,” “Superficial curriculum changes are offered in place of culturally relevant pedagogy and practice” and “Students are required to ‘show their work’ in standardized, prescribed ways.”

Perhaps a reasonable objection would be that these are only teacher guidelines and that we cannot know exactly how, or whether, teachers are adhering to them in classrooms. But these guidelines, apparently sanctioned by state departments of education, contradict the notion that concepts derived from critical race theory — or are, at least, C.R.T.-lite — is nowhere near our schools, that the C.R.T.-in-schools debate “isn’t real,” merely a fiction designed to cloak racism.

In some cases, evidence of C.R.T.-lite is easier to spot at various private schools. Granted, governors can’t “ban” private school curriculums, but the experience at some tony New York prep schools, for instance, demonstrates how C.R.T.-lite isn’t simply found in teacher trainings but can make its way into the classroom and schools’ educational philosophy. As The Times reported earlier this year:

The Brearley School declared itself an antiracist school with mandatory antiracism training for parents, faculty and trustees, and affirmed the importance of meeting regularly in groups that bring together people who share a common race or gender.

Kindergarten students at Riverdale Country School in the Bronx are taught to identify their skin color by mixing paint colors. The lower-school chief in an email last year instructed parents to avoid talk of colorblindness and “acknowledge racial differences.”

If it’s not C.R.T., it’s C.R.T.-lite

Perhaps they will teach history. History like this:

Civil War By Other Means: America's Long & UNfinished Fight for Democracy by Jeremi Suri.

Perhaps, but with RWers crying like spoiled little children I doubt it.

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Perhaps they will teach history. History like this:

Civil War By Other Means: America's Long & UNfinished Fight for Democracy by Jeremi Suri.

Perhaps, but with RWers crying like spoiled little children I doubt it.

Taking the Long View on Some Very Long Wars (Published 2022)

Historians rethink North America before colonization, American racial divisions over two centuries and a Persian Empire under steady duress.

www.nytimes.com

"As the war against Indigenous America was winding down, the American Civil War began. According to a new volume by Jeremi Suri, a historian at the University of Texas at Austin, that conflict never really has ended. In CIVIL WAR BY OTHER MEANS: America’s Long and Unfinished Fight for Democracy(PublicAffairs, 320 pp., $30), Suri argues that we have had a national confrontation, often vicious, for more than 150 years about whether America will become a true multiracial democracy.

Suri offers a persuasive dose of pessimism in assessing the United States today. As he describes it, our current situation resembles the post-Civil War era, when, he writes, “the country became more multiracial and more white supremacist at the same time.” He detects the venomous spirit of the Confederacy living on in contemporary politics. Moreover, he warns, elections are no panacea, noting that “the 1876 election proved that voting does not heal deep political divisions; it hardens them and often adds to the violence.” So too did our most recent presidential election result in a mob attack on the Capitol in which the Confederate flag was displayed."

​

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

The more people accept others, the harder racisism and hate rears its ugly head from the ones who refuse to accept it..