All things Racist...USA edition (2 Viewers)

[Farb]

I was looking for a place to put this so we could discuss but didn't really find a place that worked so I created this thread so we can all place articles, experiences, videos and examples of racism in the USA.

This is one that happened this week. The lady even called and filed a complaint on the officer. This officer also chose to wear the body cam (apparently, LA doesn't require this yet). This exchange wasn't necessarily racist IMO until she started with the "mexican racist...you will never be white, like you want" garbage. That is when it turned racist IMO

All the murderer and other insults, I think are just a by product of CRT and ACAB rhetoric that is very common on the radical left and sadly is being brought to mainstream in this country.

Another point that I think is worth mentioning is she is a teacher and the sense of entitlement she feels is mind blowing.

https://news.yahoo.com/black-teacher-berates-latino-la-221235341.html

 

[brandon]

Exclusive: Kanye West has a disturbing history of admiring Hitler, sources tell CNN | CNN

Several people who were once close to the artist formerly known as Kanye West told CNN that he has long been fascinated by Adolf Hitler — and once wanted to name an album after the Nazi leader.

www.cnn.com

I'm happy to report this instance of racism by black people on @Farb's behalf.

 

[Peace]

Exclusive: Kanye West has a disturbing history of admiring Hitler, sources tell CNN | CNN

Several people who were once close to the artist formerly known as Kanye West told CNN that he has long been fascinated by Adolf Hitler — and once wanted to name an album after the Nazi leader.

www.cnn.com

I'm happy to report this instance of racism by black people on @Farb's behalf.

I prefer using this instance of racism as an example:

Police: Black woman declares 'I hate white people' before attacking Ride On bus passengers

GAITHERSBURG, Md. (ABC7) A black woman declared her disdain for white people before pummeling two white passengers on board a moving Ride On bus, Gaithersburg Police said.Kimberly Jordan, 24, of Silver Spring, is charged with racial harassment, obstructin

mynews4.com

 

[brandon]

I prefer using this instance of racism as an example:

Police: Black woman declares 'I hate white people' before attacking Ride On bus passengers

GAITHERSBURG, Md. (ABC7) A black woman declared her disdain for white people before pummeling two white passengers on board a moving Ride On bus, Gaithersburg Police said.Kimberly Jordan, 24, of Silver Spring, is charged with racial harassment, obstructin

mynews4.com

From 2018? I'm sure @Farb has already posted that one here somewhere.

 

[Peace]

From 2018? I'm sure @Farb has already posted that one here somewhere.

Does it matter when? I'm surprised it was reported at all.

 

[Farb]

You know, government doesn't always get everything wrong. It can get things right too, if you have decent and competent people in charge. You guys on the right need to stop treating government with disdain, hatred and fear because it only allows the people that y'all elect and represent you to abuse their power and have no accountability at all. That's horrible for all of society. If you guys valued efficient, responsive and diligent governance more than y'all championed demagogic and disruptive governance from your representatives, things would be much better for us all. But things keep getting worse, all while y'all elect the worst possible people to represent you (people who have no desire to make government work and only want to cause disruption), and then you wonder why things are so bad.

Voting doesn't need to be inconvenient to be secure. It doesn't need to be restrictive to be secure. It doesn't need to include intimidation at voter drop boxes or polling place to be secure. Maybe y'all can just stop hating Democrats so much to recognize that we have a diverse population and they're going to win elections, just like Republican's do.

The government does have a purpose and they do, occasionally get things correct, although I think it is more of an accident than planned. You all on the left see only people as the problem while conservatives see both the people elected and the government as a whole a failed endeavor at this point. The government is run by a bureaucratic state and not by those elected. The evidence is clear in the last few elections. I think the system is broken and can only be corrected by a top to bottom purge of those in it now. That will not happen, so that is why I am fine with a national divorce, as we have discussed.

Voting needs be secure. Everyone need to have faith it is secure. For example, in 2016, according the media, it was a Russian interfered elections. Then 2020 was so pristine and fair that to even mention some talking points from 2016 was almost considered treason and censored as such. Not there is already talk that if R win in 2024 it is election fraud. We already see the excuses and 'voter fraud and suppression' coming in November. Simply stated, the Dems cry foul when they lose but if the Rs do the same thing, it is a threat to democracy. Do you not think that is a fair representation?

 

[Farb]

"Voting is so important to the nation that people should be inconvenienced" is the dumbest forking take I've heard from you, and that's saying a lot, considering you just compared standing in a voting line to standing in line at an amusement park.

as dumb as standing in line to vote is racism?

 

[Farb]

No. And this has nothing to do with what I said, so congratulations for being led to water, having the trough of water pointed out to you, having your face shoved into it, and still failing to drink from it.

Who else would need access to the DMV that cannot be done on-line?

If the water is tainted, most intelligent animals won't drink from it despite a dummy leading them to the water source, so not sure on your point.

 

[coldseat]

The government does have a purpose and they do, occasionally get things correct, although I think it is more of an accident than planned. You all on the left see only people as the problem while conservatives see both the people elected and the government as a whole a failed endeavor at this point. The government is run by a bureaucratic state and not by those elected. The evidence is clear in the last few elections. I think the system is broken and can only be corrected by a top to bottom purge of those in it now. That will not happen, so that is why I am fine with a national divorce, as we have discussed.

We don't live in 1776 anymore. It doesn't matter what way you slice it, the bureaucratic state is necessary and a part of any modern first world country. That didn't just happen by accident or because of liberals. Whether it's because of the military, security, law enforcement, social services, business regulation, health care, infrastructure and transportation needs, etc., a modern society doesn't exist without the bureaucratic state to sustain it. So even if you get your desired national divorce, you're going to have a bureaucratic state to deal with in your conservative utopia.

In order to have a bureaucratic state, the elected officials are going to have to cede power to it, so that the bureaucratic state can have the request authority to carry out its mandate. That's just a reality. But those same elected officials always retain the power change the conditions of or claw back the power of the bureaucratic state as it sees necessary, if it can muster the votes to do so. They do it all the time. So while I can see reforming the bureaucratic state as a justifiable desire, getting rid of it entirely is unrealistic and untenable.

Voting needs be secure. Everyone need to have faith it is secure. For example, in 2016, according the media, it was a Russian interfered elections. Then 2020 was so pristine and fair that to even mention some talking points from 2016 was almost considered treason and censored as such. Not there is already talk that if R win in 2024 it is election fraud. We already see the excuses and 'voter fraud and suppression' coming in November. Simply stated, the Dems cry foul when they lose but if the Rs do the same thing, it is a threat to democracy. Do you not think that is a fair representation?

In 2016, nobody claimed that Russians or Republicans changed voters actual vote or that anybody voted illegally.

In 2020, Republicans claimed Democrats cheated by changing voter's vote, getting illegal's to vote, and illegally voting a myriad of other ways. All with no evidence.

For 2022 and 2024, Republicans are saying that Democrats are going to cheat again. If they lose, it's because there was election fraud and are coming up with a million other conspiracies' that will illegitimize the election if Republicans don't win. They are also saying ahead of time that they will do anything to prevent a Democrat from winning.

I don't expect you to appreciate the difference, but there it is clear as day.

 

[Saintamaniac]

Well, can't say I didn't try.

At least we have a better understanding of the cowardice behind your dodging my challenge.

I'm not going to waste my time with your "challenge". Your "challenge" as you call it is based on shear ignorance. You referred to the insurrection as a protest gone wrong. It was not. It was a violent attempt to overthrow our government. You believe that the most secure election we've had in our history was stolen because the troll you support lost and lied about it so much so that people such as yourself fell victim to it. You complain about CRT and yet you can't even properly define it in your own words. You are a walking talking stereotype of the typical trump supporter and the embodiment of the Dunning Kruger effect.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

The government does have a purpose and they do, occasionally get things correct, although I think it is more of an accident than planned. You all on the left see only people as the problem while conservatives see both the people elected and the government as a whole a failed endeavor at this point. The government is run by a bureaucratic state and not by those elected. The evidence is clear in the last few elections. I think the system is broken and can only be corrected by a top to bottom purge of those in it now. That will not happen, so that is why I am fine with a national divorce, as we have discussed.

If it's a failed endeavor and Democrats are the worst, Republicans should just stay home and not vote in the next, say... three presidential cycles. Give Democrats control of everything and they either destroy it all, which is a win for you if the government as a whole is a failed endeavor, or they fix what's broken. Only one way to find out.

Voting needs be secure. Everyone need to have faith it is secure.

Trump and his sycophants are the ones working to actively undermine faith in the security of our elections. DHS called this the most secure election in US history. Trump fired the guy who said it.

For example, in 2016, according the media, it was a Russian interfered elections. Then 2020 was so pristine and fair that to even mention some talking points from 2016 was almost considered treason and censored as such. Not there is already talk that if R win in 2024 it is election fraud. We already see the excuses and 'voter fraud and suppression' coming in November. Simply stated, the Dems cry foul when they lose but if the Rs do the same thing, it is a threat to democracy. Do you not think that is a fair representation?

"And all of that digging has gone into this report, and the committee concludes that Russia conducted a sophisticated and aggressive campaign to influence the U.S. election to help Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton and that folks on Team Trump were more than happy to accept help from the Russians. But what's really important about that conclusion is that it is a bipartisan one. It is endorsed by both Democrats and Republicans."



"The Committee found that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the Russian effort to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Hillary Clinton..."

"Moscow’s intent was to harm the Clinton Campaign, tarnish an expected Clinton presidential administration, help the Trump Campaign after Trump became the presumptive Republican nominee, and undermine the U.S. democratic process."

Factbox: Key findings from Senate inquiry into Russian interference in 2016 U.S. election

t - Below are key findings of the U.S. Senate intelligence committee's final report released on Tuesday about Russian efforts to influence the 2016 U.S presidential election in which Republican Donald Trump defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton.

www.reuters.com

 

[cuddlemonkey]

as dumb as standing in line to vote is racism?

Dumbest forking thing ever. You should be proud of how ridiculously stupid it sounds, to be honest.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Who else would need access to the DMV that cannot be done on-line?

If the water is tainted, most intelligent animals won't drink from it despite a dummy leading them to the water source, so not sure on your point.

We've already discussed the fact that 17% of Alabamians don't have reliable internet access. Try to keep up.

 

[bird]

So you point is this only really affects those recently moved into the area and new drivers, who can't vote to being with?
I don't look it at that way. I look at it as if the state or federal government is put in charge of something, it will be a disaster and I expect an unorganized shirt show. I also bring my own water and snack if I feel like I might perish in line as I really don't expect anything from the dolts in charge.

Elections have been run for 240 years. The only shirtshow is conservative schreeching that 2020 was rigged. Interesting that you hate those who work for nothing to help elections get done. Do the country and the world a favor and don't bother to vote any more.

 

[bird]

I prefer using this instance of racism as an example:

Police: Black woman declares 'I hate white people' before attacking Ride On bus passengers

GAITHERSBURG, Md. (ABC7) A black woman declared her disdain for white people before pummeling two white passengers on board a moving Ride On bus, Gaithersburg Police said.Kimberly Jordan, 24, of Silver Spring, is charged with racial harassment, obstructin

mynews4.com

West is mentally ill.

The woman is a bigot. Racism derives from positions of power. All racists are bigots but not all bigots are racists.

 

[Peace]

The word critical in the name is an academic reference to critical thinking, critical theory, and scholarly criticism, rather than criticizing or blaming people.[1][2]

Now, onto the list. I think this could be an appropriate high-level discussion for a high-school history class:

the CRT conceptual framework examines racial bias in laws and legal institutions, such as highly disparate rates of incarceration among racial groups in the United States.[5]

This could definitely be a discussion in a biology or anatomy class, as well as a sociology or social studies class:

Scholars of CRT view race as a social construct with no biological basis.[7][8]

Another definitely applicable sociology discussion:

One tenet of CRT is that racism and disparate racial outcomes are the result of complex, changing, and often subtle social and institutional dynamics, rather than explicit and intentional prejudices of individuals.[8][9][10]

This would be a fantastic discussion in high school civics/American government classes:

the liberal notion of U.S. law as "neutral" plays a significant role in maintaining a racially unjust social order,[14] where formally color-blind laws continue to have racially discriminatory outcomes.[15]

Some questions:

1. Why have CRT in the first place? Is it to get instruction/discussion/call to action scenarios going? Or is it to simply get thoughtful discussions going?

2. Who are/is the target audience(s) of CRT? Is it specific groups, or is it one group in particular, or is it everyone?

3. What are the expected results of CRT in our public school systems?

 

[bird]

Some questions:

1. Why have CRT in the first place? Is it to get instruction/discussion/call to action scenarios going? Or is it to simply get thoughtful discussions going?

2. Who are/is the target audience(s) of CRT? Is it specific groups, or is it one group in particular, or is it everyone?

3. What are the expected results of CRT in our public school systems?

CRT is NOT taught in public schools.

 

[Optimus Prime]

feel like this should migrate over to the CRT thread

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Does this happen only in Red states?

It happens in Louisiana which is the only state I specifically mentioned in my original post.