All things Racist...USA edition (4 Viewers)

[Farb]

I was looking for a place to put this so we could discuss but didn't really find a place that worked so I created this thread so we can all place articles, experiences, videos and examples of racism in the USA.

This is one that happened this week. The lady even called and filed a complaint on the officer. This officer also chose to wear the body cam (apparently, LA doesn't require this yet). This exchange wasn't necessarily racist IMO until she started with the "mexican racist...you will never be white, like you want" garbage. That is when it turned racist IMO

All the murderer and other insults, I think are just a by product of CRT and ACAB rhetoric that is very common on the radical left and sadly is being brought to mainstream in this country.

Another point that I think is worth mentioning is she is a teacher and the sense of entitlement she feels is mind blowing.

https://news.yahoo.com/black-teacher-berates-latino-la-221235341.html

 

[MT15]

Farb, maybe you could just print the part where the race of the student is used to actually make different punishments? I’m not seeing it.

 

[coldseat]

That would be a great response if it were true.
https://wasa-oly.org/WASA/images/WASA/6.0 Resources/Equity/ESSB 5044 Fact Sheet.pdf

5. What do the terms equity, diversity and inclusion (sometimes referred to as DEI) and cultural competency mean? Those terms are defined in ESSB 5044 as follows: • Diversity describes the presence of similarities and differences within a given setting, collective, or group based on multiple factors including race and ethnicity, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability status, age, educational status, religion, geography, primary language, culture, and other characteristics and experiences; • Equity includes developing, strengthening, and supporting procedural and outcome fairness in systems, procedures, and resource distribution mechanisms to create equitable opportunities for all

Why create a different level of standard punishment in schools based on characteristics that have no bearing on a kids ability to behave. Unless we are saying that certain races of kids can't behave because of their home environment? In that case, races should not play a part as home life has no bearing on race, right?

That law and the district discipline policy are not the same thing. The article correlates the two because it's a conservative rag (so of course it does). That fact sheet for the law doesn't even mention discipline. The law is just about training for school directors and boards.

It seems to me like the district discipline policy is more of an attempt to not over punish black and brown kids for the same offenses/behaviors that white kids commit, since we have data that it happens routinely in schools.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

So it mentions ever angle, not just race? So it is not racists, it points more to an individual basis. Also to be racist, it would need to state different punishents sctrily based on race.
I am all for punishments beng an individual basis. A 'No tolerance' and one rule to fit all are just dumb.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Posted this on EE too
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On March 20, one day after a young Native American man was shot at a Rapid City, S.D., hotel, the owner posted on Facebook that she was implementing a new guest policy.

“We will no long[er] allow any Native American on property,” wrote Connie Uhre, owner of the Grand Gateway Hotel, according to a screenshot of the post.

The social media post set off a firestorm in Rapid City, South Dakota’s second most populated city, where about 10 percent of residents are of Native descent.

A nonprofit group that defends the rights of Native Americans has filed a federal class-action lawsuit against the hotel and Uhre, alleging racial discrimination, and Sioux tribal leaders have served the hotel with a trespassing order, saying the Grand Gateway is on Native land, in violation of an 1868 treaty.

“Some of our people were shocked and upset after seeing that” social media post, Harold Frazier, chairman of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe, told The Washington Post. “Some of our people were like, ‘We always go through this,’ but to really see it in writing, it caused a lot of anger.”

“Gateway Hotel is in our treaty land,” he added. “… By treaty and by law, we still own that land.”
Uhre could not immediately be reached by The Post. No one answered the phone at the hotel when a reporter called early Wednesday.

Uhre has not filed a response to the lawsuit.
The recent tensions began March 19, when police arrived at the hotel around 4:30 a.m. and found a man in his late teens with life-threatening gunshot wounds, the Rapid City Journal reported.

Uhre allegedly posted about the new policy the next day. In one post, she said she would “not allow a Native American to enter our business including Cheers,” a bar and casino managed by the hotel, because she was not able to tell “who is a bad Native or a good Native,” according to the lawsuit……..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/03/30/south-dakota-hotel-native-americans/

 

[brandon]

Posted this on EE too
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On March 20, one day after a young Native American man was shot at a Rapid City, S.D., hotel, the owner posted on Facebook that she was implementing a new guest policy.

“We will no long[er] allow any Native American on property,” wrote Connie Uhre, owner of the Grand Gateway Hotel, according to a screenshot of the post.

The social media post set off a firestorm in Rapid City, South Dakota’s second most populated city, where about 10 percent of residents are of Native descent.

A nonprofit group that defends the rights of Native Americans has filed a federal class-action lawsuit against the hotel and Uhre, alleging racial discrimination, and Sioux tribal leaders have served the hotel with a trespassing order, saying the Grand Gateway is on Native land, in violation of an 1868 treaty.

“Some of our people were shocked and upset after seeing that” social media post, Harold Frazier, chairman of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe, told The Washington Post. “Some of our people were like, ‘We always go through this,’ but to really see it in writing, it caused a lot of anger.”

“Gateway Hotel is in our treaty land,” he added. “… By treaty and by law, we still own that land.”
Uhre could not immediately be reached by The Post. No one answered the phone at the hotel when a reporter called early Wednesday.

Uhre has not filed a response to the lawsuit.
The recent tensions began March 19, when police arrived at the hotel around 4:30 a.m. and found a man in his late teens with life-threatening gunshot wounds, the Rapid City Journal reported.

Uhre allegedly posted about the new policy the next day. In one post, she said she would “not allow a Native American to enter our business including Cheers,” a bar and casino managed by the hotel, because she was not able to tell “who is a bad Native or a good Native,” according to the lawsuit……..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/03/30/south-dakota-hotel-native-americans/

I’m sure @Farb will be along shortly to tell us how this has nothing to do with race.

 

[nolaspe]

Posted this on EE too
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On March 20, one day after a young Native American man was shot at a Rapid City, S.D., hotel, the owner posted on Facebook that she was implementing a new guest policy.

“We will no long[er] allow any Native American on property,” wrote Connie Uhre, owner of the Grand Gateway Hotel, according to a screenshot of the post.

The social media post set off a firestorm in Rapid City, South Dakota’s second most populated city, where about 10 percent of residents are of Native descent.

A nonprofit group that defends the rights of Native Americans has filed a federal class-action lawsuit against the hotel and Uhre, alleging racial discrimination, and Sioux tribal leaders have served the hotel with a trespassing order, saying the Grand Gateway is on Native land, in violation of an 1868 treaty.

“Some of our people were shocked and upset after seeing that” social media post, Harold Frazier, chairman of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe, told The Washington Post. “Some of our people were like, ‘We always go through this,’ but to really see it in writing, it caused a lot of anger.”

“Gateway Hotel is in our treaty land,” he added. “… By treaty and by law, we still own that land.”
Uhre could not immediately be reached by The Post. No one answered the phone at the hotel when a reporter called early Wednesday.

Uhre has not filed a response to the lawsuit.
The recent tensions began March 19, when police arrived at the hotel around 4:30 a.m. and found a man in his late teens with life-threatening gunshot wounds, the Rapid City Journal reported.

Uhre allegedly posted about the new policy the next day. In one post, she said she would “not allow a Native American to enter our business including Cheers,” a bar and casino managed by the hotel, because she was not able to tell “who is a bad Native or a good Native,” according to the lawsuit……..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/03/30/south-dakota-hotel-native-americans/

Her brood is totally cut from the same cloth...

Hotel owner seeks Gov. Noem's help following racist comments fallout

Nick Uhre, co-owner of the Grand Gateway Hotel, sent a lengthy email to Gov. Kristi Noem on Wednesday asking, in part, for her help to remove Rapid City Mayor Steve

rapidcityjournal.com

In Uhre's email to Noem, he claims "Allender is biased and is unfit to serve as mayor."

"Steve Allender has been looking for a way to smear me or my family because of our outspokenness regarding the agenda of the left," Uhre wrote.


He claims Allender took advantage of Connie Uhre's racist comments and posted them on Twitter for the mayor's own gain. He excuses Connie Uhre's comments by saying she "has 'moments.'"

 

[SamAndreas]

Her brood is totally cut from the same cloth...

Hotel owner seeks Gov. Noem's help following racist comments fallout

Nick Uhre, co-owner of the Grand Gateway Hotel, sent a lengthy email to Gov. Kristi Noem on Wednesday asking, in part, for her help to remove Rapid City Mayor Steve

rapidcityjournal.com

I've seen a lot of this kind of discrimination.

I looked and sure enough there's a bar and casino involved. And it's on tribal land as many bars and casino's are.



It's a crying shame, 30 years ago I was at a bar on the Flathead Reservation land and saw a carload of Indians attempt to come through a door into the bar and casino at Dayton.

Well, the white bar owner jumped over the bar and met them at the door, forcing them back out before they'd gotten more than two steps inside. Through the open door I could hear him screaming at them to get back into their car, leave, and to never return.

Once he was done with that and was hopping back over his bar he remarked to all of the drunken whites who were in his bar. "No drunken Indians are ever allowed in here." He was visibly angry that they'd dared to try walking into his bar.

What his remarks would translate to is, "No groups of Indians out on a several day puking drunk bender, staggering around begging for drinks from the other patrons in the bar, essentially outcast homeless people for the duration of their helpless bender, were ever allowed into that bar."

Not ever! In that bar or any other well run bar on that reservation. The big resort with a bar and casino down the road had the same rules, which they enforced with equal vigor, and it was owned and operated by the tribe.

My experience is that a somewhat reasonable stereotype for bar owners would be they are not amoung the worlds most all the time diplomatic persons. They tend to be hardy drinking, occasionally drunken, people.


It's kind of a complicated issue, much booze is involved.

 

[Farb]

I've seen a lot of this kind of discrimination.

I looked and sure enough there's a bar and casino involved. And it's on tribal land as many bars and casino's are.



It's a crying shame, 30 years ago I was at a bar on the Flathead Reservation land and saw a carload of Indians attempt to come through a door into the bar and casino at Dayton.

Well, the white bar owner jumped over the bar and met them at the door, forcing them back out before they'd gotten more than two steps inside. Through the open door I could hear him screaming at them to get back into their car, leave, and to never return.

Once he was done with that and was hopping back over his bar he remarked to all of the drunken whites who were in his bar. "No drunken Indians are ever allowed in here." He was visibly angry that they'd dared to try walking into his bar.

What his remarks would translate to is, "No groups of Indians out on a several day puking drunk bender, staggering around begging for drinks from the other patrons in the bar, essentially outcast homeless people for the duration of their helpless bender, were ever allowed into that bar."

Not ever! In that bar or any other well run bar on that reservation. The big resort with a bar and casino down the road had the same rules, which they enforced with equal vigor, and it was owned and operated by the tribe.

My experience is that a somewhat reasonable stereotype for bar owners would be they are not amoung the worlds most all the time diplomatic persons. They tend to be hardy drinking, occasionally drunken, people.


It's kind of a complicated issue, much booze is involved.

Don't tell that to the Blackfoot in Montana. Those boys didn't care for a 4th of July celebration one year we had at a local bar on their reservation. Lot of hospital visits after that night of 'celebration'.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Breh, you stole their country, what did you expect!

 

[coldseat]

Breh, you stole their country, what did you expect!

For the Native Americans to welcome them with huge feast and give thanks for their presence on their land.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

My cousin is married to a black man. The house next to them recently went up for sale.
After the new owners moved in, my cousin went to their house to introduce herself, but never mentioned which house she lived in. After talking for a few minutes, the lady said, i heard the woman next door is married to a black guy. My cousin looked at her and said, yea, thats me, i am married to a black man.. The next thing that came out of the womans mouth was, "i'm not racist".. My cousin just said ok, nice to meet you and left... I'm surprised she didn't say something like "i have black friends:..lol.. Open mouth and insert foot.
My neigbor's live in boyfriend is black. Her daugher and his 2 kids are about the same age as my son, so they are good friends (my son is 13) When i mention him or his kids in converation with others, I never mention they are black. But so many people have to specify if someone is black in a converation when it is irrelevant. I don't understand that...

 

[Farb]

Breh, you stole their country, what did you expect!

I didn't do shirt except order a bucket of beer at Kip's Beer Garden.

Now white people took their land, not stole. Conquest and stealing are two different things.

 

[Farb]

My cousin is married to a black man. The house next to them recently went up for sale.
After the new owners moved in, my cousin went to their house to introduce herself, but never mentioned which house she lived in. After talking for a few minutes, the lady said, i heard the woman next door is married to a black guy. My cousin looked at her and said, yea, thats me, i am married to a black man.. The next thing that came out of the womans mouth was, "i'm not racist".. My cousin just said ok, nice to meet you and left... I'm surprised she didn't say something like "i have black friends:..lol.. Open mouth and insert foot.
My neigbor's live in boyfriend is black. Her daugher and his 2 kids are about the same age as my son, so they are good friends (my son is 13) When i mention him or his kids in converation with others, I never mention they are black. But so many people have to specify if someone is black in a converation when it is irrelevant. I don't understand that...

I have had the same situation, but reversed in my neighborhood. This white guy's wife is black and an absolute smoke show (very beautiful for the ladies here). Some of my black neighbors refer to him as a snow cat. I assume it is a the opposite of snow bunny? I don't think it is in a negative way, as they all seem to get along.

Although, I don't consider using a person's color in a description racist. I would use their color much as I would their sex, hair cut/style, size. It is one of hte most basic descriptive adjectives there is.
Do we as a society now consider that as racist now?

 

[coldseat]

I have had the same situation, but reversed in my neighborhood. This white guy's wife is black and an absolute smoke show (very beautiful for the ladies here). Some of my black neighbors refer to him as a snow cat. I assume it is a the opposite of snow bunny? I don't think it is in a negative way, as they all seem to get along.

Although, I don't consider using a person's color in a description racist. I would use their color much as I would their sex, hair cut/style, size. It is one of hte most basic descriptive adjectives there is.
Do we as a society now consider that as racist now?

How is that the same situation, but reversed?

 

[Farb]

How is that the same situation, but reversed?

Swap out man for women and white for black across the story, you will get there.

 

[coldseat]

Swap out man for women and white for black across the story, you will get there.

Nope

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Its a good thing he is a very laid back person. When he runs into situations like that, he usually just feeds it. He likes to see how long he can keep it going.. But usually, they are too puss to actually tell him stuff like that..lol Just like the dude with the Trump flags while we were on the lake, and at the dock, he went ahead, and the Trump flag guy called their 17 year old daughter (and a mixed friend) the N word, my cousin lost her mind and was in the guys face, but when her husband was walking up, the guy crawished faster than speedy Gonzales and started apologizing. "i been drinking and i didn't mean to say it" "it was an accident" etc... But its funny, it bothers her more than him..

 

[Optimus Prime]

Good start

Those schools were terrible and this welfare program sounds like more of the same

Still amazed those schools were operating as late as 1997
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TORONTO — Canadian officials said Tuesday they have reached $31.5 billion in agreements in principle with Indigenous groups to compensate First Nations children who were unnecessarily taken from their homes and put into the child welfare system, a major development in a dispute that’s long been a sticking point in Ottawa’s efforts to advance reconciliation with Indigenous people.


Under the agreements, half of the money would go to children and families harmed by an underfunded and discriminatory child welfare system on First Nations reserves and in the Yukon, while the rest would be earmarked over five years for long-term reforms, the Indigenous services ministry said in a statement.


Final details are to be settled between the government and Indigenous advocates over the coming months. A final agreement will be submitted to a federal court and human rights tribunal for approval……

Beginning in the 19th century, roughly 150,000 Indigenous children were separated from their families — often forcibly — and sent to the government-funded, mostly church-run schools, which operated with the aim of assimilating Indigenous children. The last government-funded school closed in 1997……

Roughly 7 percent of children in Canada are Indigenous, but they make up more than 52 percent of children in foster care, according to 2016 census data.

Advocates have contended that the child welfare system is effectively a modern version of the residential school system……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/04/canada-indigenous-foster-care-settlement/

Report due out next month
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As Native Americans cautiously welcome Pope Francis’ historic apology for abuses at Catholic-run boarding schools for Indigenous children in Canada, U.S. churches are bracing for an unprecedented reckoning with their own legacies of operating such schools.

Church schools are likely to feature prominently in a report from the U.S. Department of the Interior, led by the first-ever Native American cabinet secretary, Deb Haaland, due to be released later this month. The report, prompted by last year's discovery of hundreds of unmarked graves at former residential school sites in Canada, will focus on the loss of life and the enduring traumas the U.S. system inflicted on Indigenous children from the 19th to mid-20th centuries.

From Episcopalians to Quakers to Catholic dioceses in Oklahoma, faith groups have either started or intensified efforts in the past year to research and atone for their prior roles in the boarding school system, which Native children were forced to attend — cutting them off from their families, tribes and traditions.

While the pontiff's April 1 apology was addressed to Indigenous groups from Canada, people were listening south of the border.

“An apology is the best way to start any conversation,” said Roy Callison, a Catholic deacon and Cherokee Nation member helping coordinate the Oklahoma Catholic Native Schools Project, which includes listening sessions for those affected by the boarding school legacy. “That’s the first step to trying to get healing.”

In his meeting with Canada's Indigenous delegations, Francis asked forgiveness “for the role that a number of Catholics ... had in all these things that wounded you, in the abuses you suffered and in the lack of respect shown for your identity, your culture and even your spiritual values.”........

First pope, now US churches face boarding-school reckoning