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    Maxp

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    I fear we are really going to be in a bad place due to the obvious cuts to the federal agencies that deal with infectious disease, but also the negative effect the Affordable Care act has had on non urban hospitals. Our front line defenses are ineffectual and our ability to treat the populous is probably at an all time low. Factor in the cost of healthcare and I can see our system crashing. What do you think about the politics of this virus?
     
    When Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) called President Trump last Sunday, he delivered a blunt message: If you reopen the nation’s economy too early against the advice of public-health experts, you will own the deaths from the novel coronavirus that follow.

    Trump’s stalwart ally also warned that the president wouldn’t be the only one held responsible. Graham said the Republican Party itself risks being defined ahead of this fall’s elections as prioritizing commerce and the stock market over the health and safety of the American people, according to three White House officials and a GOP lawmaker who spoke on the condition of anonymity to comment frankly.

    Trump listened to Graham but made no promises, the officials said. Trump argued to the senator, as he later would in public, that Americans must get back to work and businesses need to reopen as quickly as possible.........


     
    Two days before he cursed a supervisor and quit the National Park Service job he loved, Dustin Stone arrived to work in a foul mood. A decision by Interior Secretary David Bernhardt to keep national park sites open despite the coronavirus outbreak left him angry and in disbelief........

    On the day Stone quit, the administration announced that park entrance fees would be waived so that Americans stuck at home could enjoy the outdoors.

    Some employees worried that the decision could expose them — and possibly their families — to infection from visitors like those who poured into Zion and Arches national parks last weekend. Fearing for their jobs in an administration that tightly controls speech, no park employee has spoken out as boldly as Stone.

    “This is a political game being played with people’s lives by leadership at the highest levels of the Department of Interior, and, I believe, the White House,” Stone said.

    “President Trump is the one who announced the fee waiver. I don’t think he knows what a national park is. I would be so surprised if Donald Trump ever set foot in a national park.”.........

     
    Unlikely, but in the narcissist's handbook it tells them to blame others for whatever you do.

    In this case, it's never letting a crisis go to waste.

    He's not going to take the blame for the pandemic, but he's definitely looking to take the credit for the stimulus. Seeing several stories of Trump telling people he wants his signature on the bottom of the stimulus checks when they go out.
     
    I say 'Mike, don't call the governor of Washington. You're wasting your time with him. Don't call the woman in Michigan.

    It's little subtle stuff he says like this that reveals his poor character. Inslee is "the governor of Washington" but Whitmer is "the woman in Michigan." All politics aside, he has such a disgusting personality.
     
    Take a look at the COVID19 Visualizer. You can put your finger on any country and you will see information on cases and deaths in real time.

     
    The only kind of mask worn by hospital workers that will reliably protect you from contagion from another person is an N-95. There are a couple different types of those, but I’m not familiar with one that looks like that mask. Even the N-95, though, has to be fitted to your face, and the beard makes it non-functional, people with beards, or any facial hair really, have to wear a different gear, a papper, which covers the whole face essentially. The gaps along that guys nose make that mask essentially worthless, I would think.

    so, the hospital where I work has changed their policy on surgical masks. They are now requiring everyone in patient facing roles to wear them at all times. So I thought I better update this, since what we are being told has changed.

    They aren’t really saying why the changes, or at least I haven’t seen why. They’re putting out reams of info daily so I could have missed it. Is it to protect us, or does it have to do with the fact that 12% of our team members who have been tested so far are coming back positive?

    Handling is key, so I will share how we have been instructed. Never touch the front of the mask, or really any part of the mask except the elastic ear loops. Never pull the mask off your nose or mouth and let it hang, or be under your chin.

    To put it on: do hand hygiene. Then put it on touching only the ear straps so that it covers your nose and mouth. When it is brand new, you can make it fit around your nose by adjusting the little metal strip if it has one. Then do hand hygiene again.

    To take it off: do hand hygiene. Take it off by only touching the little elastic ear straps and lay it face down on a clean paper towel. Do hand hygiene again.

    If you handle it in this way you can reuse the mask. Discard it if it gets wet or soiled.
     
    Seriously what the hell is this







    Ive been trying to avoid this thread, this entire board and anything overtly ‘political’ for the last few days.. and for the most part, I’ve been successful... But i just have to chime in here , not specific to the President conferring with the great public health expert A-Rod, but just in general: Trump is committing dereliction of duty... All of it, his whole non-response, is the most clear case of dereliction of duty I’ve seen in quite some time, maybe ever.

    i would love for any of his enablers, er, VOTERS, to chime in as to why Trump’s handing of this crisis is laudable, or even competent... I am all ears.
     
    I don't even think its a question of who, personally, is worse. I'm no Hillary fan myself, but I think her cabinet and advisers would almost definitely be proactive with the pandemic rather than reactive. The pandemic team would still be in place and they would have been listened to and allowed to do their work months ago. I for one believe that and it's way more important, at least to me, than OMG her emails!!!!!!!!

    I was with you until the email reference. When did I mention those? You think that my disdain and disgust for her is pertaining to her emails? Lol.
    I couldn’t care less about her ‘OMG’ emails.
     

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