All things political. Coronavirus Edition. (3 Viewers)

[Maxp]

I fear we are really going to be in a bad place due to the obvious cuts to the federal agencies that deal with infectious disease, but also the negative effect the Affordable Care act has had on non urban hospitals. Our front line defenses are ineffectual and our ability to treat the populous is probably at an all time low. Factor in the cost of healthcare and I can see our system crashing. What do you think about the politics of this virus?

 

[DaveXA]

Maybe it‘s just the image, but that looks fake. The phone number doesn’t pull anything up related to Fox (I’m not about to dial it though)

Yeah, my immediate response was it's fake. But, still pretty funny. If it happens to be real, even better, hah.

 

[MT15]

I did read a report a while ago that Fox requires anyone coming back to the office or studio to be vaccinated and show proof. So Tucker is definitely vaxxed himself, even though he is encouraging doubt about the vaccines. Weasel.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

My cousin posted this. Did you know the Rothchilds patented a Covid 19 test in 2015?
We all thought Covid was something a Chinese lab let out, but it was the Rothchilds!
The dumbness keeps getting dumber... Even tough they patented a test in 2015, in Sept 2020 they revised it to include covid 19. In the original patent, covid wasn't listed. How many of the conspiracy heads actually looked into it? I'm going with Zero.
You would think as a global conspiracy as massive of an undertaking it is to pull off covid19, you would think they would have been smart enough to remove this web link...lol. Hell even the RNC was smart enough to remove Trumps position on pulling troops from Afghanistan from their website.. lol

 

[Bolo]

The federal government has teenager highschool drama over passing yearly budget, but they're somehow apart of some elaborate covid-19 scheme that has synchronized perfectly with the global elite class.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Maybe it‘s just the image, but that looks fake. The phone number doesn’t pull anything up related to Fox (I’m not about to dial it though)

Not sure if it's fake or not, but the EAP number wouldn't be affiliated with FOX anyway. You'd be calling some 3rd party vendor.

 

[Saintamaniac]

Maybe it‘s just the image, but that looks fake. The phone number doesn’t pull anything up related to Fox (I’m not about to dial it though)

The number is legit. It states that it is the EAP for Fox corporation.

 

[superchuck500]

Good lord these people are so god-damned stupid.

 

[Lapaz]

Good lord these people are so god-damned stupid.

Is that legal to issue a death threat?

 

[superchuck500]

Is that legal to issue a death threat?

It's not really a death threat.

 

[Lapaz]

It's not really a death threat.

It's awfully close. It's certainly a veiled threat to tell the pharmacist that he could be executed. It certainly was intended to scare the pharmacist. It's not like he's saying that god will punish him. The man is stating that the pharmacist may actually be put to death, and that should violate some law. Would this at least violate a civil intimidation statute?

 

[GrandAdmiral]

butt crevasses, every single one of them, led by the lead butt crevasse, the attorney general...

Republican leaders stall funding for New Orleans projects, Superdome renovations

“It didn’t take long to figure out what’s going on here and why those had been taken out."

www.wwltv.com

 

[Saintamaniac]

butt crevasses, every single one of them, led by the lead butt crevasse, the attorney general...

Republican leaders stall funding for New Orleans projects, Superdome renovations

“It didn’t take long to figure out what’s going on here and why those had been taken out."

www.wwltv.com

I'd love to see Cantrell and the council hold a meeting and vote to withhold any state taxes collected within the city. I hope that the Saints file suit against the state as a result of this if there is any breach of contract. This is unmitigated bullshirt.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

I'd love to see Cantrell and the council hold a meeting and vote to withhold any state taxes collected within the city. I hope that the Saints file suit against the state as a result of this if there is any breach of contract. This is unmitigated bullshirt.

Exactly, especially since the true governing body, the state legislature, has already approved the money for these projects.

 

[zztop]

well... she's not wrong in what she said

Utah teacher who called Trump a ‘moron’ and advocated vaccines to students no longer employed at school - Washington Examiner

A Utah high school teacher who said she "hates" "moron" former President Donald Trump told her students to "go tattle" on her "to the freakin' admins," as "they don't give a crap." It turns out, they did. Leah Kinyon is no longer employed at Lehi High School after Tuesday's rant about how Trump...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

President of the American Federation of Teachers-Utah Brad Asay said he cringed when he saw the video and worries parents might think such dialogue is the norm.

 

[superchuck500]

It's awfully close. It's certainly a veiled threat to tell the pharmacist that he could be executed. It certainly was intended to scare the pharmacist. It's not like he's saying that god will punish him. The man is stating that the pharmacist may actually be put to death, and that should violate some law. Would this at least violate a civil intimidation statute?

No, it's First Amended protected speech. The business has a right to remove him but there's no criminality to it.

The standard is basically that the threatening speech has to be a "true threat" versus some kind of political or social expression. In a case involving alleged threats against abortion doctors the 9th Circuit summarized it this way:

A true threat is "a statement which, in the entire context and under all the circumstances, a reasonable person would foresee would be interpreted by those to whom the statement is communicated as a serious expression of intent to inflict bodily harm upon that person. It is not necessary that the defendant intend to, or be able to carry out his threat; the only intent requirement for a true threat is that the defendant intentionally or knowingly communicate the threat.”

This guy is saying that if the clinic gives a vaccine injection it is a violation of the Nuremberg Code (it isn't actually and that isn't a source of law anyway) and "very possible" (not actually) that the person could be hanged or executed (by whom?).

I think it's clearly political/social speech and doesn't really convey a true threat. Even though his purpose may be to try to intimidate, his statements are neither reasonable nor factual, nor does he convey direct intent that he will harm the clinician. Just because he may intend to intimidate (does he really though? Or is this performative) it doesn't mean it isn't protected speech - intention to intimidate is just one part of the analysis.

threats-of-violence-against-individuals

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[insidejob]

I really hate the way this thread pretends like it has an extra page and I fall for it every time rereading part of the first page again.

 

[DaveXA]

I really hate the way this thread pretends like it has an extra page and I fall for it every time rereading part of the first page again.

Indeed. So aggravating, lol.

 

[coldseat]

I really hate the way this thread pretends like it has an extra page and I fall for it every time rereading part of the first page again.

And here I thought I was the only one. Gets me every freaking time.

Thanks for speaking out!