All things political. Coronavirus Edition. (1 Viewer)

[Maxp]

I fear we are really going to be in a bad place due to the obvious cuts to the federal agencies that deal with infectious disease, but also the negative effect the Affordable Care act has had on non urban hospitals. Our front line defenses are ineffectual and our ability to treat the populous is probably at an all time low. Factor in the cost of healthcare and I can see our system crashing. What do you think about the politics of this virus?

 

[MT15]

 

[Farb]

Get the Vaccine!! LMAO

This from the bureaucrats that have been caught lying to everyone for a year. Yeah, count me out.

 

[DaveXA]

Get the Vaccine!! LMAO

This from the bureaucrats that have been caught lying to everyone for a year. Yeah, count me out.

Are you saying the doctors recommending their patients get the vaccine are all wrong? Are you saying saying Covid is a hoax? This whole thing is some sort of elaborate conspiracy?

 

[Farb]

Are you saying the doctors recommending their patients get the vaccine are all wrong? Are you saying saying Covid is a hoax? This whole thing is some sort of elaborate conspiracy?

Yes, you got me pegged. You solved the riddle. I don't think covid even exists. Even though I had it, I think it was all fake. It was all created on a sound stage in Hollywood. These get exhausting.


I had it. Studies I just saw yesterday are showing if you had it in the wild, even if antibodies are gone (As of Monday, I still have mine flowing) you body in producing for a lifetime it looks like.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9

So yeah, I won't be injecting anything into me or my kid for this virus regardless of what non-elected bureaucrats lie to me about. My parents got them, as they should. There are definitely people that should get it, I am just not one of those people.

 

[brandon]

Yes, you got me pegged. You solved the riddle. I don't think covid even exists. Even though I had it, I think it was all fake. It was all created on a sound stage in Hollywood. These get exhausting.


I had it. Studies I just saw yesterday are showing if you had it in the wild, even if antibodies are gone (As of Monday, I still have mine flowing) you body in producing for a lifetime it looks like.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9

So yeah, I won't be injecting anything into me or my kid for this virus regardless of what non-elected bureaucrats lie to me about. My parents got them, as they should. There are definitely people that should get it, I am just not one of those people.

You realize that the anti-vaccine bullshirt is just as ridiculous as the covid is a hoax bullshirt, right?

 

[DaveXA]

Yes, you got me pegged. You solved the riddle. I don't think covid even exists. Even though I had it, I think it was all fake. It was all created on a sound stage in Hollywood. These get exhausting.


I had it. Studies I just saw yesterday are showing if you had it in the wild, even if antibodies are gone (As of Monday, I still have mine flowing) you body in producing for a lifetime it looks like.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9

So yeah, I won't be injecting anything into me or my kid for this virus regardless of what non-elected bureaucrats lie to me about. My parents got them, as they should. There are definitely people that should get it, I am just not one of those people.

So, ignore the doctors? You didn't respond to that question. As far as getting Covid and having antibodies, the effectiveness over a long period of time is still an open question, same for the vaccines. But hey, if you think it can't happen to you again, you do you.

 

[wardorican]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9619697/Calls-Fauci-resign-flip-flopping-origins-COVID.html

From the 'this is not theater' mask exchange with congress, now to the 'it was all theatre' and now the flip flop on the origin of the virus. It really doesn't matter, he will be replaced with a political bureaucrat of the exact same ilk.

So, when do we get to call this the Wuhan virus/china virus again without it be problematic to the media?

That whole article, starting with the headline was a hit piece.

How dare he DEFEND a lab studying coronavirus in bats... umm.. yeah, that's what we do with viruses that mutate from animals... like pigs and chickens with the flu, and SARS was from bats.

Politicians who lie through their teeth claiming someone hasn't been forthcoming, is just so laughable.

 

[wardorican]

Yes, you got me pegged. You solved the riddle. I don't think covid even exists. Even though I had it, I think it was all fake. It was all created on a sound stage in Hollywood. These get exhausting.


I had it. Studies I just saw yesterday are showing if you had it in the wild, even if antibodies are gone (As of Monday, I still have mine flowing) you body in producing for a lifetime it looks like.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9

So yeah, I won't be injecting anything into me or my kid for this virus regardless of what non-elected bureaucrats lie to me about. My parents got them, as they should. There are definitely people that should get it, I am just not one of those people.

Maybe you should talk to St. PJ about that.

(may he rest is peace).

 

[Farb]

So, ignore the doctors? You didn't respond to that question. As far as getting Covid and having antibodies, the effectiveness over a long period of time is still an open question, same for the vaccines. But hey, if you think it can't happen to you again, you do you.

But it did happen to me, so your point, I am not following.

I also had a talk with my doctor about it when I got my lab work done, and she agreed with me. So I don't think I am ignoring doctors or medical advice. Do you?

 

[Farb]

That whole article, starting with the headline was a hit piece.

How dare he DEFEND a lab studying coronavirus in bats... umm.. yeah, that's what we do with viruses that mutate from animals... like pigs and chickens with the flu, and SARS was from bats.

Politicians who lie through their teeth claiming someone hasn't been forthcoming, is just so laughable.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/26/health/coronavirus-immunity-vaccines.html

https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/scie...-cells-mean-coronavirus-antibodies-last-years

https://news.yahoo.com/people-recovered-covid-could-immunity-145258146.html

https://source.wustl.edu/2021/05/good-news-mild-covid-19-induces-lasting-antibody-protection/

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...-coronavirus-antibodies-last-years/ar-AAKtYBu

Maybe you can find one that has a view you can tolerate. And I agree, most politicians lie through their teeth.

 

[wardorican]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/26/health/coronavirus-immunity-vaccines.html

https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/scie...-cells-mean-coronavirus-antibodies-last-years

https://news.yahoo.com/people-recovered-covid-could-immunity-145258146.html

https://source.wustl.edu/2021/05/good-news-mild-covid-19-induces-lasting-antibody-protection/

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...-coronavirus-antibodies-last-years/ar-AAKtYBu

Maybe you can find one that has a view you can tolerate. And I agree, most politicians lie through their teeth.

Maybe. But I also don't need a news article or a politician to tell me how to feel about something. I just take it in context and agree or disagree with whatever seems reasonable.

It has nothing to do with tolerating something. I think you know I tolerate a lot. But, that article was a hit piece, written in a clearly opinion oriented way, despite trying to come off as a factual report, and it's reasonable that I state that opinion. Again, I read it, I thought about it, I judged it, and I commented. If only more people could do the same, vs the "I stopped reading at _____"

EDIT: Actually, I don't get why you posted all of those links. That had nothing to do with what I was talking about with Fauci. I completely agree that 'immunity' or better said, the antibodies post covid infection will likely last year. I believe they found that SARS 'immunity' was like 3-5 years (going off memory). Just because antibodies eventually go away, it doesn't mean your body doesn't know how to respond. It's why we have memory cells.

If you're getting into why you choose not to vaccinate, I'm glad you talked to your doctor, but I'd be a bit concerned about the variants, so even with antibodies / memory cells, you could get a much worse go of it. At least one vaccine shot would give you much more robust immunity. Israel had a study, and I think a US medical group was looking into it as well, but they found that people who had and recovered from Covid, and got 1 mRNA shot, didn't really need the second one.

 

[DaveXA]

But it did happen to me, so your point, I am not following.

I also had a talk with my doctor about it when I got my lab work done, and she agreed with me. So I don't think I am ignoring doctors or medical advice. Do you?

That's all I was asking. If you follow your doctor's advice, then good deal. I got no issue with that. I hope for the best outcome for you and for everyone else.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[wardorican]

I can't. I just can't.

 

[superchuck500]

I can't. I just can't.

Its disgusting. These people have no idea what real persecution is. They’re pathetic.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I can't. I just can't.

They have a new post up, and that one is missing. This lady is batshit crazy and even posted a quote from David "Lizard People are Real" Icke.

 

[Farb]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-lab-tried-cover-tracks-new-study-claims.html

An explosive new study claims that Chinese scientists created COVID-19 in a Wuhan lab, then tried to cover their tracks by reverse-engineering versions of the virus to make it look like it evolved naturally from bats.

The paper's authors, British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen, wrote that they have had 'prima facie evidence of retro-engineering in China' for a year - but were ignored by academics and major journals.

Dalgleish is a professor of oncology at St George's University, London, and is best known for his breakthrough creating the first working 'HIV vaccine', to treat diagnosed patients and allow them to go off medication for months.

Sørensen, a virologist, is chair of pharmaceutical company, Immunor, which developed a coronavirus vaccine candidate called Biovacc-19. Dalgleish also has share options in the firm.

The shocking allegations in the study include accusations of 'deliberate destruction, concealment or contamination of data' at Chinese labs, and it notes the silencing and disappearance of scientists in the communist country who spoke out.

The journal article, exclusively obtained by DailyMail.com and slated for publication in the coming days, is set to make waves among the scientific community, as the majority of experts have until recently staunchly denied the origins of COVID-19 were anything other than a natural infection leaping from animals to humans.

I think I have heard this before, but it was racist, if I remember correctly.

 

[nolaspe]

Yeah, I hope that she loses her business...