All things political. Coronavirus Edition. (1 Viewer)

[Maxp]

I fear we are really going to be in a bad place due to the obvious cuts to the federal agencies that deal with infectious disease, but also the negative effect the Affordable Care act has had on non urban hospitals. Our front line defenses are ineffectual and our ability to treat the populous is probably at an all time low. Factor in the cost of healthcare and I can see our system crashing. What do you think about the politics of this virus?

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

No link, but i just witnessed on cable news, a 3 or 4 minute “debate” from this morning between Dr Fauci and Jim Jordan, the representative , or senator from wherever.. If you can check it out, please do becuase we are witnessing absolute lunatics presiding in the halls of Congress.. this piece of **** Jordan kept asking Fauci “when will Americans get their constitutional liberties back” , meanwhile poor Fauci is trying to explain to this imbecile that it’s about SCIENCE, not about Jordan’s moronic political spin... It’s truly astounding how out of touch and, apologies to anyone who’s experienced mental illness- but flat out crazy some of these Republican shills are.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

No link, but i just witnessed on cable news, a 3 or 4 minute “debate” from this morning between Dr Fauci and Jim Jordan, the representative , or senator from wherever.. If you can check it out, please do becuase we are witnessing absolute lunatics presiding in the halls of Congress.. this piece of **** Jordan kept asking Fauci “when will Americans get their constitutional liberties back” , meanwhile poor Fauci is trying to explain to this imbecile that it’s about SCIENCE, not about Jordan’s moronic political spin... It’s truly astounding how out of touch and, apologies to anyone who’s experienced mental illness- but flat out crazy some of these Republican shills are.

And it ends with Maxine Waters telling Gym Jordan to shut his mouth.

Jim Jordan Told to ‘Shut Your Mouth’ After Ranting Endlessly at Fauci

Jordan screamed at Fauci for so long that Rep. Maxine Waters had to intervene and tell him to “respect the chair and shut your mouth!”

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

Sometimes I wonder how Dr. Fauci doesn’t just snap and drop f-bombs left and right

 

[Saint by the Bay]

And it ends with Maxine Waters telling Gym Jordan to shut his mouth.

Jim Jordan Told to ‘Shut Your Mouth’ After Ranting Endlessly at Fauci

Jordan screamed at Fauci for so long that Rep. Maxine Waters had to intervene and tell him to “respect the chair and shut your mouth!”

www.thedailybeast.com

Circus clown, and the sad thing is somewhere in the middle of him trying to appeal to America’s lowest common denominators he had a valid point. I’d also like to have some metrics defined on when when we can return to normal. We had some with the reopening plan during the summer, but that seems to have been completely thrown out now most places.

If Jordan was more concerned with substance over Theater of the Q, he could have had a productive conversation around those metrics.

 

[MT15]

Jordan, and most Rs really, aren’t interested in productive discussion. Just in grandstanding, and keeping the base riled up. They sure as hell don’t want to actually govern, that much is clear.

 

[DaveXA]

Circus clown, and the sad thing is somewhere in the middle of him trying to appeal to America’s lowest common denominators he had a valid point. I’d also like to have some metrics defined on when when we can return to normal. We had some with the reopening plan during the summer, but that seems to have been completely thrown out now most places.

If Jordan was more concerned with substance over Theater of the Q, he could have had a productive conversation around those metrics.

Yep, theatrics trumps a good argument every time when playing for the audience. Smh.

 

[nolaspe]

Tots and pears for the virus...

Ted Nugent Catches Coronavirus After Year of Telling Us the Pandemic Is All Fake

The right-wing singer has spent months sharing his dangerous conspiracy theories. Now? “I thought I was dying.”

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[insidejob]

Tots and pears for the virus...

Ted Nugent Catches Coronavirus After Year of Telling Us the Pandemic Is All Fake

The right-wing singer has spent months sharing his dangerous conspiracy theories. Now? “I thought I was dying.”

www.thedailybeast.com

Seriously, screw all of the COVID hoax claimers - especially those who have influence over others - when they catch it. I don't feel one bit of sympathy for them and hope they have an especially nasty time while they are sick.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Interesting read
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Stop talking about the possibility of coronavirus booster shots. Don’t bully people who are vaccine holdouts. And if you’re trying to win over skeptics, show us anyone besides Dr. Fauci.

That’s what a focus group of vaccine-hesitant Trump voters urged politicians and pollsters during the weekend, as public health officials work to understand potential roadblocks in the campaign to inoculate Americans against the coronavirus. Among the most pressing questions are why so many GOP voters remain opposed to the shots and whether the recent decision to pause Johnson & Johnson vaccinations was a factor.

Although more than half of U.S. adults have received at least one dose of coronavirus vaccine, more than 40 percent of Republicans have consistently told pollsters they’re not planning to be vaccinated — a group that could threaten efforts to tamp down the virus’s spread, public health officials fear.

Many vaccine-hesitant Americans are increasingly entrenched in their decisions to resist the shots, said Frank Luntz, a longtime GOP communications expert who convened Sunday’s focus group over Zoom...............

‘I’m still a zero’: Vaccine-resistant Republicans warn that their skepticism is worsening

 

[DaveXA]

Interesting read
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Stop talking about the possibility of coronavirus booster shots. Don’t bully people who are vaccine holdouts. And if you’re trying to win over skeptics, show us anyone besides Dr. Fauci.

That’s what a focus group of vaccine-hesitant Trump voters urged politicians and pollsters during the weekend, as public health officials work to understand potential roadblocks in the campaign to inoculate Americans against the coronavirus. Among the most pressing questions are why so many GOP voters remain opposed to the shots and whether the recent decision to pause Johnson & Johnson vaccinations was a factor.

Although more than half of U.S. adults have received at least one dose of coronavirus vaccine, more than 40 percent of Republicans have consistently told pollsters they’re not planning to be vaccinated — a group that could threaten efforts to tamp down the virus’s spread, public health officials fear.

Many vaccine-hesitant Americans are increasingly entrenched in their decisions to resist the shots, said Frank Luntz, a longtime GOP communications expert who convened Sunday’s focus group over Zoom...............

‘I’m still a zero’: Vaccine-resistant Republicans warn that their skepticism is worsening

Sounds like "I'll only get vaccinated if you tell me what I want to hear." I'm not a fan of it, but if it gets them jabbed, go ahead and lie to them.

 

[MT15]

I would submit that Republicans like to be lied to, Dave. They’re used to it.

 

[SFIDC3]

Tots and pears for the virus...

Ted Nugent Catches Coronavirus After Year of Telling Us the Pandemic Is All Fake

The right-wing singer has spent months sharing his dangerous conspiracy theories. Now? “I thought I was dying.”

www.thedailybeast.com

Couldn't happen to a nicer Peice of work....T & P......

 

[MT15]

NYT does a really good job, IMO, of putting things into perspective. I wish every COVID denier would explain these facts. I think this isn’t behind a paywall.

How Covid Upended a Century of Patterns in U.S. Deaths (Published 2021)

The pandemic brought a record uptick in deaths, interrupted a downward trend in death rates and spurred the highest death rate above normal ever recorded in the country.

www.nytimes.com

 

[SystemShock]

Interesting read
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Stop talking about the possibility of coronavirus booster shots. Don’t bully people who are vaccine holdouts. And if you’re trying to win over skeptics, show us anyone besides Dr. Fauci.

The bullies cry the loudest when they are bullied. "Show us anyone besides Fauci" means they need right wingers to tell them to vaccinate, something that'd go against the frenzy created by Trump and his sycophants, a frenzy they are banking on for 2022 and beyond.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

I thought even Trump had come out and told people to get vaccinated.

 

[DaveXA]

I thought even Trump had come out and told people to get vaccinated.

He did, but it was a pretty tepid statement.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

He did, but it was a pretty tepid statement.

The dangerous thing about that is the tail is wagging the dog. Trump has some fear in the back of his mind that he still has to pander to the insanity of his base rather than dictate policy to them.

 

[DaveXA]

The dangerous thing about that is the tail is wagging the dog. Trump has some fear in the back of his mind that he still has to pander to the insanity of his base rather than dictate policy to them.

Absolutely, which I think explains the late/tepid response.