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    Didn't really see a place for this so I thought I would start a thread about all things LGBTQ since this is a pretty hot topic in our culture right now

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/sup...y-that-refuses-to-work-with-lgbt-couples.html

    • The Supreme Court on Thursday delivered a unanimous defeat to LGBT couples in a high-profile case over whether Philadelphia could refuse to contract with a Roman Catholic adoption agency that says its religious beliefs prevent it from working with same-sex foster parents.
    • Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in an opinion for a majority of the court that Philadelphia violated the First Amendment by refusing to contract with Catholic Social Services once it learned that the organization would not certify same-sex couples for adoption.

    I will admit, I was hopeful for this decision by the SCOTUS but I was surprised by the unanimous decision.

    While I don't think there is anything wrong, per se, with same sex couples adopting and raising children (I actually think it is a good thing as it not an abortion) but I also did not want to see the state force a religious institution to bend to a societal norm.
     
    Texas and Florida just introduced bills that would effectively ban all insurance coverage for transition-related care, including for adults. They join a growing number of states, including Oklahoma, South Carolina and Virginia, that have introduced legislation this year that would affect not just trans youth, but trans adults’ access to care.

    Texas introduced Senate Bill 1029 last Friday. The bill's introduction claims that “the medical community has knowledge that many so-called ‘gender affirming’ treatments are not in the best interest of the health of the patient but rather are being promoted for the monetary gain the health care facilities will receive from providing those treatments.” To that end, SB 1029 would prohibit most insurance coverage of all “gender modification procedures and treatments.”

    Additionally, it would establish that providers are liable to patients for malpractice claims, and for patients’ medical, mental health, and pharmaceutical costs that result from transition-related procedures...........

     
    Tennessee lawmakers passed a bill banning drag shows in public on Thursday, sending the measure to the Republican Governor Bill Lee’s desk.

    The law would make Tennessee the first state to ban public drag, which could also affect LGBTQ+ pride celebrations and transgender people who are in shows of any kind. There are currently 20 bills in 15 US states aimed at drag queen performances.

    It’s well-documented in economic literature that discrimination against LGBTQ+ people damages their economic, physical, and mental well-being. Additionally, discriminatory bills like the one in Tennessee can lower a nation’s GDP.

    In past years, bills in other states that targeted transgender people prompted strong negative reaction from business leaders, out of concern that discriminatory legislation would make it more difficult to woo clients, talent and corporate relocations.............

     
    An image appearing to show Tennessee Governor Bill Lee in drag in 1977 has surfaced as the state looks set to impose a new anti-drag law.

    “As Tennessee moves forward to ban drag, enjoy a high school yearbook picture of Tennessee Governor Bill Lee in drag (Franklin High yearbook 1977, page 165),” a Reddit user wrote in a post on the subreddit Political Humor, sharing a picture of what seems to be Mr Lee in a photo above the caption “Hard Luck Woman”.

    The image was widely shared on social media with users arguing that Republicans are hypocrites on the issue, mentioning that more recent images also depict New York Republican Representative George Santos in drag as the party attempts to utilise the issue in the so-called culture war.

    Democrat Christopher Hale wrote on Twitter: “Tennessee Governor Bill Lee is set to sign a bill that bans and criminalizes drag across the Volunteer State. Under this law, Governor Lee himself would face prosecution and jail time for his decision to dress up as a ‘hard luck woman’ in high school. Nice legs though!”

    The bill criminalizes the act of taking part in an “adult cabaret performance” or a drag show on public property, particularly in the presence of minors. The bill passed the Tennessee House of Representatives on 23 February...........

     
    A group of Iowa lawmakers wants to ban same-sex marriage in the state.

    Eight Republican members of the state House on Tuesday introduced House Joint Resolution 8 that proposesan amendment to the Iowa state Constitution that "recognizes the definition of marriage to be the solemnized union between one human biological male and one human biological female."

    The proposal comes amid a flurry of anti-LGBTQ bills authored by Iowa Republicans, including bathroom bills, gender identity, and banning gender-affirming care for minors. The onslaught mirrors actions taken by GOP lawmakers nationwide.

    Tuesday's legislation was introduced by Iowa state representatives Brad Sherman, Luana Stoltenberg, Mark Cisneros, Helena Hayes, Zach Dieken, Skyler Wheeler, Mark Thompson, and Thomas Gerhold. Their proposal comes more than two months after Congress ratified gay marriages and almost eight years after the U.S. Supreme Court's historic legalization of same-sex marriage in America.

    The Iowa resolution to ban same-sex marriages would likely take a few years, if not more, to become law. It would have to be adopted by the Iowa House, and Senate and signed by Gov. Kim Reynolds. It would also have to be passed in another legislative session and then by voters...............

    Another piece of legislation filed in Iowa Tuesday would set up a challenge to the federal Respect for Marriage Act.

    House File 508 proposes that no Iowa resident "shall be compelled, coerced, or forced to recognize any same-sex unions or ceremonies as marriage," and states that no legal action can be taken against them, despite the federal measure signed into law late last year .............

     
    I feel so bad for this young FL teacher. This is what DeSantis’ tactics result in:

     

    So @Farb 's favorite trans person has been outed as a troll.

    Of course, it was obvious to anyone being honest with themselves.

    I guess since @Farb believes everything he posts here, he got Smolletted by this dude.
    Wait, this wasn't obvious to literally everyone?
    There's no way on Earth someone with breasts that big isn't wearing a mil-spec bra at all times.
     
    Wait, this wasn't obvious to literally everyone?
    There's no way on Earth someone with breasts that big isn't wearing a mil-spec bra at all times.
    Yea, i don't even think the transphobes really believed this guy was trans. They knew he was one of them all along.

    None of the people who feigned believing him should ever be taken seriously again.
     
    Yes, when we're talking about our shadow. But the original Hebrew text points more to this type of shadow:



    The physical representation of God tied to male body came more along with Christianity and Jesus, as you pointed to in your original response.

    That at least how I've always understood it.
    So there's a little more to this. The ancient view was that there were layers of heavens above earth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_heavens). The seventh heaven is where God the father sits (with Jesus at his side), and each layer of heaven was a less perfect copy of the one above, with the earth being the least perfect copy or imitation. So each heaven had everything that there is on earth but in a more perfect form, so that everything on earth is a less perfect imitation or shadow of what is in heaven. Along those lines humans are in the image of God, but are only a poor imitation or shadow of His greatness.

    As you mention, a lot of this comes through in the book of Hebrews. See Hebrews 10, where the temple sacrifices are discussed as only being inferior copies or shadows of those in the heavens -- which is why those earthly animal blood sacrifices had to be repeated annually, whereas the sacrifice of Christ, who has heavenly god/archangel blood, only had to take place one time. See also Hebrews 4:14 (..."a great chief priest passed through the heavens -- Jesus the Son of God..."), Hebrews 8:1-2 (“Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by a mere human being.”), and also Hebrews 8:4-6 (“If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven.").

    Also see the Life of Adam and Eve, a text dating the first century. Paradise/the Garden of Eden is depicted as being in the 3rd heaven (Venus in some models), and when Adam and Eve are expelled they are literally cast down and their fall is a literal fall to earth. But after they die they are raised back up to Paradise, where they are buried. Also, in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4, Paul speaks of "a man" (likely himself) who either physically or spiritually was raised to the third heaven where he was able to see Paradise and "heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell." Likewise, when Lucifer is cast down, he is also literally cast down to the the firmament (the area up in the sky around or just below the moon, separating earth from the heavens), where he was believed to reside with his spirit demons (referred to by Paul as the "rulers of this age," referenced in Ephesians 6:12 and also 1 Corinthians 2:6-8).
     
    Another sensational anti-trans story appears to have been fabricated, but not before it was widely shared and seen by millions of people who will never see the follow-up reporting that debunked it.

     
    Good article on accepting bigotry if it’s religious beliefs
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    …….I thought of this moment when I read that last month, Pensacola Christian College in Florida had disinvited the King’s Singers — an a cappella group visiting campus — two hours before their scheduled performance.

    The college canceled, it later said, “upon learning that one of the artists openly maintained a lifestyle that contradicts Scripture.”

    In other words, because one of its members was gay.

    In fact, two are. The King’s Singers knew about the college’s position on homosexuality when they agreed to play there, but as they explained in an Instagram post: “Our belief is that music can build a common language that allows people with different views and perspectives to come together.”

    It’s an extremely gracious statement. Yet I have to ask them, as I belatedly asked myself years ago: Why so tolerant of bigotry?

    Are we just so accustomed to the anti-LGBTQ stances of conservative religious institutions that they don’t even register? Are we so used to church-sponsored homophobia that we ignore the vast, forbidding landscape of prejudice while celebrating the tiniest signs of change?

    It made the news, for example, when Pope Francis told the Associated Press recently that homosexuality should not be criminalized, as it is in 67 countries, and urged bishops around the world to recognize everyone’s dignity. Amen.

    He noted, however, that homosexuality is still a sin. The Catholic Church will keep calling it a sin, and urging sinners to repent, and it will keep refusing to recognize same-sex marriage or to condone adoption by same-sex parents, but in a way that also totally recognizes their dignity!

    (Not for nothing: Where does the pope think those countries first got the idea that homosexuality should be a crime?)

    In January, the Church of England apologizedfor its treatment of LGBTQ people while clarifying that such people would not be allowed to marry in the church. “For the times we have rejected or excluded you, and those you love, we are deeply sorry,” the pastoral letter reads. And for the times we will continue to reject or exclude you, we are so deeply sorry for those, too!…….

    Now, let’s pretend that instead of talking about LGBTQ people, the church was talking about congregations “wrestling with their beliefs and feelings” about Black people.

    Would our spirit of patient forbearance extend to that?

    Not too long ago, many American Christian institutions defended slavery, pointing to Bible verses such as Ephesians 6:5: “Slaves, obey your masters.”

    They then battled integration and interracial marriage, arguing that God meant for the races to be separated. Bob Jones University, from which the founders of Pensacola Christian College graduated, prohibited interracial datinguntil 2000.

    Homophobic policies are no different — except in that, apparently, people are still more accepting of them……..


     
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    This is apparently real. How is it that Rs cannot bring themselves to object to “eradication” of actual American citizens?

     

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