All Things LGBTQ+ (2 Viewers)

[Farb]

Didn't really see a place for this so I thought I would start a thread about all things LGBTQ since this is a pretty hot topic in our culture right now

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/sup...y-that-refuses-to-work-with-lgbt-couples.html

• The Supreme Court on Thursday delivered a unanimous defeat to LGBT couples in a high-profile case over whether Philadelphia could refuse to contract with a Roman Catholic adoption agency that says its religious beliefs prevent it from working with same-sex foster parents.
• Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in an opinion for a majority of the court that Philadelphia violated the First Amendment by refusing to contract with Catholic Social Services once it learned that the organization would not certify same-sex couples for adoption.

I will admit, I was hopeful for this decision by the SCOTUS but I was surprised by the unanimous decision.

While I don't think there is anything wrong, per se, with same sex couples adopting and raising children (I actually think it is a good thing as it not an abortion) but I also did not want to see the state force a religious institution to bend to a societal norm.

 

[Farb]

Does this stuff make sense to you when you type it, because all I see is a jumbled word salad that demonstrates zero understanding of anything it attempts to address.

Usually no to be honest. I am not good at writing but I re read that and it made perfect sense to me. Is the meaning of the words you don't understand or the premise of the word when combined to form the thought?

 

[Farb]

These are almost all lies.

Do you honestly think the “west” (lol) has some sort of monopoly on ethical legal systems? This is extremely rich coming from someone who wants to take the US into a theocracy similar to what the Taliban likes to do.

Throwing in the old “satanism” canard is the worst sort of smear. You are evidently scraping the bottom of the barrel these days. It’s sad, but just par for the course these days for your side.

Can you show me a lie and we can discuss it. Otherwise, you just posting emotional reactions to what I post.

 

[MT15]

Can you show me a lie and we can discuss it. Otherwise, you just posting emotional reactions to what I post.

Your entire post, actually. Just smears and projection. Like you insisting I’m emotional when it is you that shows that most often.

Show me proof of any of those assertions - you can start with that the left is satanic.

 

[SystemShock]

That's why I do what I do.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Workable definition, but for me, the key is the over reach.

Fair. I think that defining the term will help a lot moving forward.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Usually no to be honest. I am not good at writing but I re read that and it made perfect sense to me. Is the meaning of the words you don't understand or the premise of the word when combined to form the thought?

I understand the words perfectly well. It's the part where you use these words to say blatantly untrue shirt.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Workable definition, but for me, the key is the over reach.

I just want to point out that your desire to "keep big government out of our private lives" makes no sense, given your definition of big government. Having the government, regardless of level, regulate what medical procedures someone can and cannot undergo falls squarely under your definition of big government.

 

[coldseat]

Why are those things not allowed? Hint: religion. Religion formed the foundation for the wests legal system.

What?

So you are fine with child marriages, honor killings and polygamy? (I am sure you are ok with polygamy sadly)

All of those things you listed come from religion. Religion wasn't the reason they were outlawed. It was secular people saying "this is wrong".

 

[Farb]

Your entire post, actually. Just smears and projection. Like you insisting I’m emotional when it is you that shows that most often.

Show me proof of any of those assertions - you can start with that the left is satanic.

https://www.churchofsatan.com/faq-fundamental-beliefs/​

Why do Satanists worship The Devil?​

We don’t. Satanists are atheists. We see the universe as being indifferent to us, and so all morals and values are subjective human constructions.

Our position is to be self-centered, with ourselves being the most important person (the “God”) of our subjective universe, so we are sometimes said to worship ourselves. Our current High Priest Gilmore calls this the step moving from being an atheist to being an “I-Theist.”

Satan to us is a symbol of pride, liberty and individualism, and it serves as an external metaphorical projection

 

[cuddlemonkey]

https://www.churchofsatan.com/faq-fundamental-beliefs/​

Why do Satanists worship The Devil?​

We don’t. Satanists are atheists. We see the universe as being indifferent to us, and so all morals and values are subjective human constructions.

Our position is to be self-centered, with ourselves being the most important person (the “God”) of our subjective universe, so we are sometimes said to worship ourselves. Our current High Priest Gilmore calls this the step moving from being an atheist to being an “I-Theist.”

Satan to us is a symbol of pride, liberty and individualism, and it serves as an external metaphorical projection

The Church of Satan's Policy on Politics - Church of Satan

The Church of Satan's Policy on Politics What constitutes the Church of Satan’s stance on any number of political issues is a topic often broached by students working on papers, journalists of varying stripes and intelligence, and other assorted researchers, trolls, or people with some form of...

www.churchofsatan.com

"Our members span an amazing political spectrum, which includes but is not limited to: Libertarians, Liberals, Conservatives, Republicans, Democrats, Reform Party members, Independents, Capitalists, Socialists, Communists, Stalinists, Leninists, Trotskyites, Maoists, Zionists, Monarchists, Fascists, Anarchists, and just about anything else you could possibly imagine. It is up to each member to apply Satanism and determine what political means will reach his/her ends, and they are each solely responsible for this decision."

Looks like every political party is the party of Satan. I trust that means you will just write yourself in for every election from now on, since you are clearly the only person you can trust.

 

[MT15]

https://www.churchofsatan.com/faq-fundamental-beliefs/​

Why do Satanists worship The Devil?​

We don’t. Satanists are atheists. We see the universe as being indifferent to us, and so all morals and values are subjective human constructions.

Our position is to be self-centered, with ourselves being the most important person (the “God”) of our subjective universe, so we are sometimes said to worship ourselves. Our current High Priest Gilmore calls this the step moving from being an atheist to being an “I-Theist.”

Satan to us is a symbol of pride, liberty and individualism, and it serves as an external metaphorical projection

This doesn’t prove what you said at all, in fact it contradicts what you said. This is such a crummy pattern with you. Say something false, have it shown to you that it is false, ignore the post which proves you are wrong, wait for some time to pass, say false thing again.

This is why you get blowback about lying. Saying something once and then realizing you are mistaken and never saying it again is what normal people do. Going back and repeating the falsehood over and over is what liars do. Sorry, it is what it is.

 

[brandon]

Going back and repeating the falsehood over and over is what certain politicians who @Farb holds up as examples of how to engage in discourse do.

Fixed.

 

[Farb]

The Church of Satan's Policy on Politics - Church of Satan

The Church of Satan's Policy on Politics What constitutes the Church of Satan’s stance on any number of political issues is a topic often broached by students working on papers, journalists of varying stripes and intelligence, and other assorted researchers, trolls, or people with some form of...

www.churchofsatan.com

"Our members span an amazing political spectrum, which includes but is not limited to: Libertarians, Liberals, Conservatives, Republicans, Democrats, Reform Party members, Independents, Capitalists, Socialists, Communists, Stalinists, Leninists, Trotskyites, Maoists, Zionists, Monarchists, Fascists, Anarchists, and just about anything else you could possibly imagine. It is up to each member to apply Satanism and determine what political means will reach his/her ends, and they are each solely responsible for this decision."

Looks like every political party is the party of Satan. I trust that means you will just write yourself in for every election from now on, since you are clearly the only person you can trust.

LOL.
Hey look, the church of satan listed my political affiliation on their website, it must be true. The church of satan is known for speaking the truth.
While it is probable that when a lefty reads that their political party is for something, they take it at face value. Heck, look at all of you thinking removing healthy organs off of children is a sound medical practice.
But yes, they do list every political party and it is probably correct. The worship of one's self is alive and well in this country, regardless of you voted for. I wouldn't doubt a few well know Reps are practicing members.

 

[samiam5211]

Heck, look at all of you thinking removing healthy organs off of children is a sound medical practice.

As someone who had my tonsils removed as a child against my will, i am with you.

 

[Farb]

This doesn’t prove what you said at all, in fact it contradicts what you said. This is such a crummy pattern with you. Say something false, have it shown to you that it is false, ignore the post which proves you are wrong, wait for some time to pass, say false thing again.

This is why you get blowback about lying. Saying something once and then realizing you are mistaken and never saying it again is what normal people do. Going back and repeating the falsehood over and over is what liars do. Sorry, it is what it is.

Please explain how saying that leftism has become the worship of the self and evil and showing how that belief system is tied to the church of satan a lie? Show me where I lied and when I was wrong on the worship of ones self?

I noticed you have not provided any examples of me lying. You say it by far the most, so when are you going to show me my lies or are you just going to keep ingorning my requests but keep saying, much like the lie "safe, effective and free"?

 

[CoolBrees]

You do know tha Chruch of Satan has nothing to do with Satan right? It is satire just like Flying Spaghetti Monster.

They are atheists. They are making fun of you.

I feel sad for you and your complete lack of nuance.

 

[brandon]

Hey look, the church of satan listed my political affiliation on their website, it must be true.

You’re the one who cited the website as support for your argument.

You just experienced academic peer review, presumably for the first time. Congrats.

 

[samiam5211]

Please explain how saying that leftism has become the worship of the self and evil and showing how that belief system is tied to the church of satan a lie? Show me where I lied and when I was wrong on the worship of ones self?

I noticed you have not provided any examples of me lying. You say it by far the most, so when are you going to show me my lies or are you just going to keep ingorning my requests but keep saying, much like the lie "safe, effective and free"?

How can they be Marxists and be in love with themselves?