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What has China been up to lately? Not much, just the usual crimes against humanity and a new possible pandemic! Fun country.

https://apnews.com/269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c

"The Chinese government is taking draconian measures to slash birth rates among Uighurs and other minorities as part of a sweeping campaign to curb its Muslim population, even as it encourages some of the country’s Han majority to have more children.

While individual women have spoken out before about forced birth control, the practice is far more widespread and systematic than previously known, according to an AP investigation based on government statistics, state documents and interviews with 30 ex-detainees, family members and a former detention camp instructor. The campaign over the past four years in the far west region of Xinjiang is leading to what some experts are calling a form of “demographic genocide.”

The state regularly subjects minority women to pregnancy checks, and forces intrauterine devices, sterilization and even abortion on hundreds of thousands, the interviews and data show. Even while the use of IUDs and sterilization has fallen nationwide, it is rising sharply in Xinjiang.

The population control measures are backed by mass detention both as a threat and as a punishment for failure to comply. Having too many children is a major reason people are sent to detention camps, the AP found, with the parents of three or more ripped away from their families unless they can pay huge fines. Police raid homes, terrifying parents as they search for hidden children."
 

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This one is gonna get ugly.

The real problem is we need China.

We need China because most of all the supplies needed to fight this pandemic we have ignored come from China.

The battle over what ever this is can wait until pandemic is under control.

A much larger amount of Americans are in need of PPE and other supplies America can't make right now.

This is picking a fight to look strong at the wrong time.
 

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Just more evidence of China's willingness to hurt its own people. How much less do you think they care about other people throughout the world? It's an old saying but the Chinese don't go to the bathroom without a plan. The US needs to be in a position of strength to be able to thwart the expanding influence of China globally and I am not just talking about military strength. We have to regain our standing as a trustworthy trade partner. We cannot stand against human rights abuses in other countries if our own hands are not clean. Over time, we can get that back, but not under the current administration, which has proven time and again that it is not to be trusted.
 

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Just more evidence of China's willingness to hurt its own people. How much less do you think they care about other people throughout the world? It's an old saying but the Chinese don't go to the bathroom without a plan. The US needs to be in a position of strength to be able to thwart the expanding influence of China globally and I am not just talking about military strength. We have to regain our standing as a trustworthy trade partner. We cannot stand against human rights abuses in other countries if our own hands are not clean. Over time, we can get that back, but not under the current administration, which has proven time and again that it is not to be trusted.

Yes I agree.

The only real option is with partners. We can't do it alone. With global partners we would have leverage without we have none.

The other day I read somewhere that our tariffs kinda worked but did not put any Americans to work. It just bumped up the trade from other countries from south Asia. Oh yeah we the American consumer paid every bit of that tariff.

The only way to deal with China is with leverage.

The economy of the world also depends on China also being a consumer of the world's goods. Just ask general motors they sold more cars in China than they did in north America.
 

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This was a odd article considering the current issues with China:

Trump views China’s Communist Party as a threat. Young Chinese see it as a ticket to a better future.

I guess it makes sense when you consider that the Washington Post publishes Chinese propoganda disguised as news:

One of China's main propaganda outlets has paid American newspapers nearly $19 million for advertising and printing expenses over the past four years, The Daily Caller reported citing documents filed with the US Justice Department.

China Daily, an English-language newspaper controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, has paid more than $4.6 million to The Washington Post and nearly $6 million to The Wall Street Journal since November 2016, the documents showed.

Both newspapers have published paid supplements that China Daily produces called "China Watch." The inserts are designed to look like real news articles, though they often contain a pro-Beijing spin on contemporary news events.

 

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Wish we still had the moral high ground vis-a-vis detention centers so we could go after China for this.

Of course we do when our major organized religious leaders did not put a stop to our transgressions.

The real question to ask yourself is why would this administration that has demonized the religion of those people give a rats arse how they are treated?
 

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