2024 GOP Presidential Race (13 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Many of Trump's endorsed candidates did not do well on Nov. 8th.
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Gov. Ron DeSantis DID do well.
He won convincingly.
Yet in this OP's opinion, Donald Trump is an egomaniac who is seemingly incapable of putting "Party over Self"
Trump has ZERO chance of being elected our next president.
In my opinion, if Trump would just shut up and go away (fat chance of that)...but "if" Trump did that, Gov. Ron DeSantis would have a CHANCE to be a formidable candidate for President in 2024.
Here is an interesting article on this topic...

Donald Trump warns Ron DeSantis against 2024 presidential bid as Republican rising star wins big

Donald Trump has warned Florida's Governor Ron DeSantis against running for president in 2024, saying doing so would harm the Republican Party.

www.scotsman.com

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What do any of you think re. Trump vs DeSantis?

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Can you explain why you like Haley? To me she's nothing more than a mouthpiece for the military industrial complex and the establishment. She's the media's favorite Republican which should give you pause.

Blah blah...military complex. Blah blah blah. Dick Cheyney was...and Nikki Haley is "normal" and competent. People in power such as those two examples help people feel at peace in a world with such global instability.

 

[SaintForLife]

Well, Ole Donald should give everyone pause...except, MAGA!

The polls disagree with you.

 

[DaveXA]

The polls disagree with you.

How so?

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Blah blah...military complex. Blah blah blah. Dick Cheyney was...and Nikki Haley is "normal" and competent. People in power such as those two examples help people feel at peace in a world with such global instability.

Regarding MILITARY COMPLEX.....it is not "complex". I support the military.

 

[SaintForLife]

Blah blah...military complex. Blah blah blah. Dick Cheyney was...and Nikki Haley is "normal" and competent. People in power such as those two examples help people feel at peace in a world with such global instability.

Dick Cheney and Nikki Haley help people feel at peace in the world with such global instability?

Are you being sarcastic or is that a serious statement? How could they help people feel at peace when they both have and currently with Haley advocate wars?

What about Haley going from virtually no savings in 2017 to a small fortune from defense contracting and war advocacy ties? Does that not make you question her judgement when she's advocating for wars?

The incendiary exchange, which instantly became a viral, made-for-television exchange clip shared widely, belied a deeper divide in foreign policy and the curious background of Haley, who went from near negligible wealth – with virtually no assets or investments other than a bank account with less than $15,000 in 2017 and up to $1 million in debt – to a sizable fortune.

Over the last year, Haley and her husband reported a vast investment stock portfolio and $12 million of income.

The former South Carolina governor left the Trump administration in 2018 at a time when her parents were struggling financially and had just faced foreclosure. Those days are over. Haley now resides in a 5,700-square-foot mansion on Kiawah Island now worth close to $5 million. Haley and her husband also helped sell a strip mall once owned by her parents and worked to clear the family of previous debts.

Along the way, Haley became wealthy in large part from her ties to a network of defense interests and hawkish advocacy organizations tied to U.S. and Israeli intelligence officials.

former Google chief executive Eric Schmidt and run day-to-day by Gilman Louie, the former head of In-Q-Tel, the CIA’s venture capital arm.

At a launch event for the fund last year, a participant openly discussed the fact that America’s Frontier Fund is investing strategically in “choke points” in case of war between China and Taiwan, in which case the fund’s portfolio would increase “10x, like overnight.”

Michael Haley, Nikki’s husband, also launched his own defense contracting firm in recent years. Michael who previously served with the National Guard, along with stints in human resources and at a high-end clothing store, earns up to $500,000 from a company called Allied Defense.

An investigation from the Daily Beast showed that Allied Defense appears to overlap with a sister company, Defense Engineering Services, that helps clients “navigate political and legal concerns to allow for defense system acquisition."

IKOR Systems, a firm founded by Michael, touts clients in “aerospace manufacturing,” as well as gaming. The website for the company provides few details. But the company brought in up to $1 million in income for the couple.

Nikki Haley's Sudden Wealth Rooted in Weapons Industry, Pro-War Advocacy Network

The former U.N. ambassador went from virtually no savings in 2017 to a small fortune in part from defense contracting and war advocacy ties.

www.leefang.com

 

[SaintForLife]

How so?

Trump is leading in the polls against Biden.

 

[SaintForLife]

Regarding MILITARY COMPLEX.....it is not "complex". I support the military.

The military industrial complex are the weapons manufacturers and companies that make other military materials. The companies that profit from war. Not the military.

 

[DaveXA]

Trump is leading in the polls against Biden.

And? That doesn't disprove my point.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Dick Cheney and Nikki Haley help people feel at peace in the world with such global instability?

Are you being sarcastic or is that a serious statement? How could they help people feel at peace when they both have and currently with Haley advocate wars?

What about Haley going from virtually no savings in 2017 to a small fortune from defense contracting and war advocacy ties? Does that not make you question her judgement when she's advocating for wars?

The incendiary exchange, which instantly became a viral, made-for-television exchange clip shared widely, belied a deeper divide in foreign policy and the curious background of Haley, who went from near negligible wealth – with virtually no assets or investments other than a bank account with less than $15,000 in 2017 and up to $1 million in debt – to a sizable fortune.

Over the last year, Haley and her husband reported a vast investment stock portfolio and $12 million of income.

The former South Carolina governor left the Trump administration in 2018 at a time when her parents were struggling financially and had just faced foreclosure. Those days are over. Haley now resides in a 5,700-square-foot mansion on Kiawah Island now worth close to $5 million. Haley and her husband also helped sell a strip mall once owned by her parents and worked to clear the family of previous debts.

Along the way, Haley became wealthy in large part from her ties to a network of defense interests and hawkish advocacy organizations tied to U.S. and Israeli intelligence officials.

former Google chief executive Eric Schmidt and run day-to-day by Gilman Louie, the former head of In-Q-Tel, the CIA’s venture capital arm.

At a launch event for the fund last year, a participant openly discussed the fact that America’s Frontier Fund is investing strategically in “choke points” in case of war between China and Taiwan, in which case the fund’s portfolio would increase “10x, like overnight.”

Michael Haley, Nikki’s husband, also launched his own defense contracting firm in recent years. Michael who previously served with the National Guard, along with stints in human resources and at a high-end clothing store, earns up to $500,000 from a company called Allied Defense.

An investigation from the Daily Beast showed that Allied Defense appears to overlap with a sister company, Defense Engineering Services, that helps clients “navigate political and legal concerns to allow for defense system acquisition."

IKOR Systems, a firm founded by Michael, touts clients in “aerospace manufacturing,” as well as gaming. The website for the company provides few details. But the company brought in up to $1 million in income for the couple.

Nikki Haley's Sudden Wealth Rooted in Weapons Industry, Pro-War Advocacy Network

The former U.N. ambassador went from virtually no savings in 2017 to a small fortune in part from defense contracting and war advocacy ties.

www.leefang.com

I do not care if Haley resolved her debt by receiving incredibly inflated public speaking fees or book deals. I ....do...not....care. Haley as a potential US President would not fall off her bicycle or trip on the stage or fall down the stairs. When she was done giving a speech at a venue that she'd never been to before, she could (never the less) walk away from the lectern confidently ......AND....she is the best chance to keep Trump from being the GOP Nominee.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Trump is leading in the polls against Biden.

depends on which poll you want to look at .
remember that time Clinton was dominating the polls over Trump.. yea, good times.. lol

 

[LA - L.A.]

Blah blah...military complex. Blah blah blah. Dick Cheyney was...and Nikki Haley is "normal" and competent. People in power such as those two examples help people feel at peace in a world with such global instability.

I agree Nikki Haley is "normal," because there's nothing normal about her.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Donald Trump is ending 2023 on quite the low. On Tuesday a Colorado supreme court ruling barred the former president from the state’s presidential ballot, which drove him predictably bonkers.

Then, to add insult to injury, he got some bad news from New Hampshire: Nikki Haley, the former governor of South Carolina and the woman Trump appointed to be his ambassador to the United Nations, is catching up to him in the polls.

A new Saint Anselm College survey shows Haley with 30% support among likely Republican primary voters in the state, 14 points less than Trump.

To be fair, Trump probably isn’t quaking in his boots: he still has a sizable lead. But he can’t be enjoying Haley’s momentum. Business heavyweights have flocked to her; she’s landed a coveted endorsement from New Hampshire’s Republican Governor, Chris Sununu; and her polling figures have doubled in three months. The 51-year-old is quickly becoming a viable candidate.

So could she actually do it? Could Haley become the first female and first Indian-American president of the US? It’s unlikely but not impossible. More important, however, it’s not anything anyone vaguely to the left should wish for.

Haley may be a woman (she’s certainly been very happy to lean into her gender and ethnic background when it’s convenient) but she’s no friend to women or minorities.

She’s got reactionary views on abortion, immigrants and LGBTQ people. Her politics are just as hate-filled as Trump’s are. She’s just as opportunistic and self-serving as the former president. She just comes across as less obviously dangerous and extreme.

Partly that’s because she’s not as mercurial, of course. Chaos doesn’t follow her everywhere, like it does Trump. She’s frequently described as the “adult in the room” because she acts like more of a grown-up than the other Republican contenders – which, to be honest, isn’t saying much.

But another reason so many people seem keen to paint her as a “moderate”– when her politics are very much to the right – might be because she’s a woman.

Women are becoming increasingly prominent in the far right. Last year Giorgia Meloni, head of Italy’s most rightwing government, became the first female prime minister of Italy. In France, Marine Le Pen, leader of the far-right National Rally party, has gone from strength to strength.

In the UK some of the most aggressively anti-immigrant policies have been voiced by brown women like Priti Patel and Suella Braverman. And one of the rising stars of the Conservative party in the UK is Kemi Badenoch, a Black woman who has styled herself as anti-woke culture warrior.

The feminization of fascism isn’t happenstance – it’s highly strategic. “It is a trend Marine Le Pen started about 10 years ago – she softened the image of the party [the former Front National], getting rid of the unappealing aspects and the macho image,” Dorit Geva, a sociologist at Central European University told DW last year.

“I think that women do play a huge, important role in mainstreaming more radical ideas,” Seyward Darby, author of the book Sisters in Hate, similarly told VICE World News shortly after Meloni was elected.

“They are… crucial to spreading the ideology with a smile and making it seem palatable… It’s about putting a certain veneer on it, a certain gloss on it.”

It would be patronizing to say that women are being used by far-right organizations to soften their image, but they’re certainly useful.

Haley gives a veneer of respectability to an increasingly dysfunctional and dangerous GOP. Beneath her grown-up gloss, however, is the same old rot……..

Nikki Haley as first female US president? Unlikely but not impossible

Republican candidate is catching up to Trump in the polls as business heavyweights have flocked to her

www.theguardian.com

 

[SaintForLife]

And? That doesn't disprove my point.

I understand that polls are just a snapshot in time, but they show that more than just Maga are supporting him.

 

[SaintForLife]

I do not care if Haley resolved her debt by receiving incredibly inflated public speaking fees or book deals. I ....do...not....care. Haley as a potential US President would not fall off her bicycle or trip on the stage or fall down the stairs. When she was done giving a speech at a venue that she'd never been to before, she could (never the less) walk away from the lectern confidently ......AND....she is the best chance to keep Trump from being the GOP Nominee.

What a weird set of criteria that you use for your support of a Presidential candidate. So you are concerned more about the optics of a candidate or what they might say as opposed to their policies and actions?

 

[MT15]

I understand that polls are just a snapshot in time, but they show that more than just Maga are supporting him.

Go back and read his statement again. You aren’t registering what he actually said.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

What a weird set of criteria that you use for your support of a Presidential candidate. So you are concerned more about the optics of a candidate or what they might say as opposed to their policies and actions?

I have at times been embarrassed by President Biden. I assume people in other countries poke fun at him and think less of us because "we" elected him ( of course I did not vote for him).
....and btw, I have plenty of confidence that I will like President Haley's policies. No worries there.

 

[bird]

I have at times been embarrassed by President Biden. I assume people in other countries poke fun at him and think less of us because "we" elected him ( of course I did not vote for him).
....and btw, I have plenty of confidence that I will like President Haley's policies. No worries there.

What policies?

 

[Optimus Prime]

GILBERT, S.C. (AP) — Standing inside a rustic barn a short drive from the state capital, Henry McMaster shocked many South Carolina Republicans seven years ago by backing Donald Trump for president.

Then the lieutenant governor, McMaster became the highest-ranking state official to endorse Trump in 2016. The event was in Lexington County, the adopted political home of then-Gov. Nikki Haley, who had repeatedly criticized Trump and endorsed Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.

Trump would win the 2016 primary in South Carolina and eventually the presidency. After campaigning against him, Haley would accept his nomination as United Nations ambassador, making McMaster governor.

That complicated history is coming to the fore as Haley mounts a spirited effort to become the leading Republican alternative to Trump. Her strategy is centered on a strong showing in next month’s Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary before much of the campaign’s focus shifts to South Carolina, where the Feb. 24 contest could be the last chance for anyone other than Trump to prove they can survive.

But her home state has shifted closer to Trump in the near-decade since she last ran for state office, threatening her ability to tap into her local roots to notch the victory she has promised.

“Ten years is an eternity when all politics are national,” said Matt Moore, a former state GOP chairman. “Trump tapped into thousands of low-frequency voters who have reshaped South Carolina politics. Many of them weren’t focused on state-level issues prior, or even now.”…….

Nikki Haley has bet her 2024 bid on South Carolina. But much of her home state leans toward Trump

Nikki Haley is betting her 2024 candidacy on winning South Carolina. But the politics of Haley's home state have shifted far to the right since she was governor.

apnews.com