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    This is how boomers got their wealth, largely, yet we still see them being touted as “wealthy” when they got their money the exact same way. Not seeing the misleading bit here.
    I'm not sure that's accurate. Obviously inheritance existed, but there was quite a lot less to inherit. Members of that generation were in the optimum position to benefit from lower cost housing and the economy booming over the second half of the 20th century. Not so much the case for the generations after them, which is also reflected in things like pensions.

    That naturally doesn't apply to every individual member of the generation, plenty of whom got left out from not being in a position to take advantage of those things.
     
    This seems to be a bit of a tangent to this thread, but I think this particular stat is a bit misleading in this context, given that a key reason that the millennials are poised to become the richest generation over the next 20 years is that they - well, some of them - are going to inherit it from the boomers and silent generation.

    Does sharing the wealth - patchily - between generations really count when it's happening because they can't take it with them?
    My point was that the so labeled "Baby Boomers" aren't taking their wealth with them and every generation has wealth hoarders. Each generation has bigger wealth hoarders than the previous generation, even in adjusted dollars.

    The problem is not any one generation. The problem is that in each generation a greater percentage of wealth gets concentrated into the hands of an ever decreasing percentage of the population. Fixating on blaming the "boomers" is part of the problem, not the solution.
     
    Please let the Secret Service have a word with this nut.


    Yes, please. While it is entirely possible that people in the past held such a view about particular politicians they generally did not have a way to spew their views in a widespread manner. In addition, imo, such views increased with the rise of talk radio, particularly conservative talk radio, and the rise of virulent antagonistic politics during and after the era of Reagan.
     
    My point was that the so labeled "Baby Boomers" aren't taking their wealth with them and every generation has wealth hoarders. Each generation has bigger wealth hoarders than the previous generation, even in adjusted dollars.

    The problem is not any one generation. The problem is that in each generation a greater percentage of wealth gets concentrated into the hands of an ever decreasing percentage of the population. Fixating on blaming the "boomers" is part of the problem, not the solution.

    I'm not about to let Boomers escape responsibility for putting politicians into office and support policies that basically pulled the ladder up after them.

    That generation went along with Reagan's "Spend and borrow" philosophy until it became embedded into both parties.
     
    I'm not sure that's accurate. Obviously inheritance existed, but there was quite a lot less to inherit. Members of that generation were in the optimum position to benefit from lower cost housing and the economy booming over the second half of the 20th century. Not so much the case for the generations after them, which is also reflected in things like pensions.

    That naturally doesn't apply to every individual member of the generation, plenty of whom got left out from not being in a position to take advantage of those things.
    I looked for it, I vividly remember reading that the wealth transfer from our parents was the greatest one the US had ever seen (at the time). It was largely based on the value of housing, IIRC. which in many areas exploded in value just before our parent’s generation passed away. I couldn’t find the articles. Google has gone to crap, it seems. Even though I specified wealth transfer TO boomers, all I got were all the recent articles about wealth transfer FROM boomers.

    Anyway, it doesn’t really matter nor impact my general point. The sociological work about shared experiences of generations has been bastageized. I don’t believe any studies ever showed that people of one generation shared inherent personality characteristics like selfishness any differently than other generations. Each generation has such a broad diversity of life circumstances and experiences, it’s more like astrology than anything rooted in any science at all to claim what was claimed here.
     
    I'm not about to let Boomers escape responsibility for putting politicians into office and support policies that basically pulled the ladder up after them.

    That generation went along with Reagan's "Spend and borrow" philosophy until it became embedded into both parties.
    I think you can blame the people who voted for those politicians and policies without making it seem like it was everyone in an entire generation that was responsible. Because it wasn’t everyone who happened to be born in certain years who did that.
     
    I think you can blame the people who voted for those politicians and policies without making it seem like it was everyone in an entire generation that was responsible. Because it wasn’t everyone who happened to be born in certain years who did that.

    Not everyone, as in every single one. The Greatest Generation had its share of fools and cowards, no doubt.

    But as a bloc, as a demographic for political and advertising purposes, the Hippies became the Me Generation and never looked back.
     
    People don't change, we are just products of our experiences.

    That is where the generation differences come from.

    People in GenZ are the same as the people who fought WWII. If George Patton had been born in 2010 he'd be doing tictok dances.
     
    People don't change, we are just products of our experiences.

    That is where the generation differences come from.

    People in GenZ are the same as the people who fought WWII. If George Patton had been born in 2010 he'd be doing tictok dances.
    Amusing, but generally correct. No one can control the year they happen to be born and the year they are born doesn’t dictate their personality traits any more than their Zodiac sign. I will die on this hill, so to speak, 😁
     
    Amusing, but generally correct. No one can control the year they happen to be born and the year they are born doesn’t dictate their personality traits any more than their Zodiac sign. I will die on this hill, so to speak, 😁
    Same applies to geography. Being born in one place does not make a person inferior or superior. It can and does impact people via the conditions there, the legal system and political economy. Thus the phrase “I’m a ‘Murican” is meaningless beyond stating that is where you live.
     
    Same applies to geography. Being born in one place does not make a person inferior or superior. It can and does impact people via the conditions there, the legal system and political economy. Thus the phrase “I’m a ‘Murican” is meaningless beyond stating that is where you live.

    yea, bragging about being American is like bragging that you were born into the global top 1%.
     
    I feel the Boomers, as a generation, suffered from feelings of inadequacy.

    Their parents were the Greatest Generation and defeated the great evil and withstood the Great Depression and Spanish Flu.

    The Boomers tried to create their own greatness by fighting "communism" and trying to win the arms race at all costs; which allowed the Military Industrial Complex to take over. Despite warnings from Eisenhower.

    The Hippies didn't join the Me Geeneration. They were overrun by it and all of their heroes were either murdered, framed by the government or both. Their best leaders who remained essentially went into hiding. See: Bobby Seale

    Boomers were the generation that was brain washed and propagandized more than any other. The Cold War propagated fear and hate. Boomers were the primary target.

    So yes they sold us down the river and handed us over to the MIC. And yes they issued in Reagan and Trickle down economics. Yes they exploded the debt. Yes they destroyed the planet with their disposable lifestyle....

    I forgot what point I was trying to make
     
    I’m not sure you guys are doing anything but regurgitating some propaganda yourselves. And I say this without rancor.

    The boomers are not a monolith, they don’t vote as a bloc (never did), they include a whole lot more types of people than you guys think. Reagan wasn’t the boomer president, not really. Here’s the breakdown. The boomers in 1980 would have been all of the 18-24, all of the 25-29, and a few in the 30-49 group. Maybe 25-28% of the voters in that election. Dwarfed by the over 50 crowd, who made up 42% of the voters. And the breakdown of Reagan versus Mondale voters doesn’t really vary from one group to another. The boomers didn’t elect Reagan, any more than any other age group at the time.

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    Their parents were the Greatest Generation and defeated the great evil and withstood the Great Depression and Spanish Flu.
    the flu pandemic was 1918, over 30 years before the Second World War. Anyone who was becoming a parent after WW2 (which are the baby boomer parents) didn’t really experience the flu pandemic of 1918 as anything but infants, did they?
     

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