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Wasn't sure where to put this, but we need a thread for the wing nuts. Lauren Boebert.
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People tell me I look like Ham Solo.
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they are incapable of that emotion. when you swallow the orange load you become immune from such things.
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So, the same could be said that Trump has a stonger love for Putin/Russia, since we are just making stuff up...
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Three years ago, the Intercept publishedan illuminating article about the rise of the “Hoppean snake” among far-right extremists, a meme which the Intercept labelled especially “disturbing for its frightening historical reference”.
For the uninitiated, the Hoppean Snake in its various forms usually depicts a serpent wearing the military hat of the American-backed Chilean dictator Gen Augusto Pinochet in the foreground while figures are dropping out of helicopters to their death in the background.
The meme specifically refers to Pinochet’s known strategy of kidnapping, torturing, killing, and – here’s the point – throwing his political opponents out of helicopters and into the ocean to dispose of them.
The Intercept noted that many groups and individuals on the far right, such as the “Boogaloo Bois, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, Oath Keepers, armed Trumpists, and the like wear T-shirts that offer ‘free helicopter rides’.” and when they do so, “they are referencing a program of extermination.”
It’s alarming to see such rhetoric from the far-right fringes; imagine seeing this kind of political violence being advocated by a sitting politician or someone seeking the highest office in the land.
Well, you don’t have to imagine it anymore. Last week, Republican congressman Mike Collins of Georgia did just that. On Twitter/X,, Collins commented on a widely circulated picture of Jhoan Boada, a man who was recently arrested for allegedly assaulting two police officers in New York City outside a migrant shelter.
Boada was one of seven men arrested, and multiple reports refer to him as a “migrant”. After leaving court, Boada was photographed raising his two middle fingers to reporters as he walked away. The picture prompted Republican congressman Anthony D’Esposito of New York to offer the racist riposte: “We feel the same way about you. Holla at the cartels and have them escort you back.”
Collins then joined in. “Or we could buy him a ticket on Pinochet Air for a free helicopter ride back,” he wrote.
As HuffPost’s Christopher Mathias, who covers the far right, put it on X: “So we have a congressman joking or not joking about extrajudicially executing a migrant arrested for a crime (allegedly assaulting a cop) that tons of non-migrant citizens get arrested for too.” Mathias also notes that the “free helicopter ride” meme has been popular with white supremacists and neo-fascists for about the last seven years.
That such rhetoric is dangerous to human life and damaging to our political culture is hardly difficult to fathom. Collins was even briefly suspended from X for violating its rules against violent speech, which considering the bevy of white supremacists and neofascists on that site is quite an accomplishment. (“Never delete. Never surrender,” he posted, after his account was reinstated.) But Collins was hardly the only American political figure recently promoting political assassination.…….
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For the uninitiated, the Hoppean Snake in its various forms usually depicts a serpent wearing the military hat of the American-backed Chilean dictator Gen Augusto Pinochet in the foreground while figures are dropping out of helicopters to their death in the background.
The meme specifically refers to Pinochet’s known strategy of kidnapping, torturing, killing, and – here’s the point – throwing his political opponents out of helicopters and into the ocean to dispose of them.
The Intercept noted that many groups and individuals on the far right, such as the “Boogaloo Bois, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, Oath Keepers, armed Trumpists, and the like wear T-shirts that offer ‘free helicopter rides’.” and when they do so, “they are referencing a program of extermination.”
It’s alarming to see such rhetoric from the far-right fringes; imagine seeing this kind of political violence being advocated by a sitting politician or someone seeking the highest office in the land.
Well, you don’t have to imagine it anymore. Last week, Republican congressman Mike Collins of Georgia did just that. On Twitter/X,, Collins commented on a widely circulated picture of Jhoan Boada, a man who was recently arrested for allegedly assaulting two police officers in New York City outside a migrant shelter.
Boada was one of seven men arrested, and multiple reports refer to him as a “migrant”. After leaving court, Boada was photographed raising his two middle fingers to reporters as he walked away. The picture prompted Republican congressman Anthony D’Esposito of New York to offer the racist riposte: “We feel the same way about you. Holla at the cartels and have them escort you back.”
Collins then joined in. “Or we could buy him a ticket on Pinochet Air for a free helicopter ride back,” he wrote.
As HuffPost’s Christopher Mathias, who covers the far right, put it on X: “So we have a congressman joking or not joking about extrajudicially executing a migrant arrested for a crime (allegedly assaulting a cop) that tons of non-migrant citizens get arrested for too.” Mathias also notes that the “free helicopter ride” meme has been popular with white supremacists and neo-fascists for about the last seven years.
That such rhetoric is dangerous to human life and damaging to our political culture is hardly difficult to fathom. Collins was even briefly suspended from X for violating its rules against violent speech, which considering the bevy of white supremacists and neofascists on that site is quite an accomplishment. (“Never delete. Never surrender,” he posted, after his account was reinstated.) But Collins was hardly the only American political figure recently promoting political assassination.…….
Republican congressmen are now talking about throwing migrants from helicopters | Moustafa Bayoumi
Anti-migrant rhetoric has reached the point of a congressman citing a far-right meme about Augusto Pinochet’s death-flights
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Go ahead a say that if you want.
I don't like Trump anyway.
Bigdaddysaints
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but you still will vote for him..
SteveSBrickNJ
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No
....................and I just watched ABC World News Tonight and I am very annoyed with Trump and Speaker Johnson. The Border Patrol Agents have endorsed the Senate bill that has bipartisan support....but Speaker Johnson is just a puppet for Donald Trump and says the bipartisan bill is "dead on arrival" in the House.
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For years the GOP said they wanted stronger border security....that's what I want too....and now even though this bipartisan bill makes it achievable....it's more important for House Rs to bend to the will of Donald Trump who would hate for the border situation to improve prior to November. To Trump, his campaign is more important than border security.
I will not vote for that self centered jerk.
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As conservatives balk, U.S. Border Patrol union endorses Senate immigration deal
The U.S. border patrol union endorsed the bipartisan Senate immigration bill on Monday as conservative Republicans have blasted the deal.
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I saw this laker guy in a bunch of tigerdroppings memes. Had no idea what it was about
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....................and I just watched ABC World News Tonight and I am very annoyed with Trump and Speaker Johnson. The Border Patrol Agents have endorsed the Senate bill that has bipartisan support....but Speaker Johnson is just a puppet for Donald Trump and says the bipartisan bill is "dead on arrival" in the House.
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For years the GOP said they wanted stronger border security....that's what I want too....and now even though this bipartisan bill makes it achievable....it's more important for House Rs to bend to the will of Donald Trump who would hate for the border situation to improve prior to November. To Trump, his campaign is more important than border security.
I will not vote for that self centered jerk.
Damn, I can't believe I just gave you a thumbs up.
But yea, thats exactly what they're doing
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I'm glad you feel that way.Damn, I can't believe I just gave you a thumbs up.
@Bigdaddysaints is a bit slow...but will hopefully come around soon.
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You’re not going to trip up Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) by presenting him with his past disparagements of Donald Trump.
Vance has spent years reframing those comments, as when he said that Trump was “leading our political discourse to a very negative place.” His spin is that he was wrong and Trump’s presidency was great, and that was enough to get Trump to endorse him in 2022 and propel him to his current position.
Well, that and a repeated willingness to embrace Trump’s rhetoric, no matter how negative the place where Vance later ends up.
As when he said during an interview Sunday that he would have done exactly what Trump wanted on Jan. 6, 2021, and blocked electors from states that voted for Joe Biden — triggering a dangerous challenge to American democracy.
Vance was speaking with ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos, who seemed to be focused on testing the limits of the senator’s loyalty to Trump. If there’s a limit, Stephanopoulos didn’t find it.
Asked, for example, how he felt about Trump’s having been found liable for sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll, one of many women who have accused Trump of misconduct, Vance waved it away. “I think it’s actually very unfair to the victims of sexual assault,” Vance said, “to say that somehow their lives are being worse by electing Donald Trump for president, when what he’s trying to do, I think is restore prosperity.”
The prospect of future economic benefit may not be the consolation for assault victims that Vance assumes.
Vance also disparaged the verdict, suggesting that New York is one of several “extremely left-wing jurisdictions” where Trump is facing charges, implying that this was a stacking of the deck against Trump instead of a result of his alleged crimes while he lived in those jurisdictions.
The argument that a jury would rule against Trump simply because of politics, of course, is of a piece with the prevalent idea on the right that Democrats are members of a credulous hive mind.
(As an aside, the senator’s effusive disparagement of wealthy donors bankrolling aggressive legal fights may not land well with his primary political patron, Peter Thiel.)
Stephanopoulos then asked Vance about the 2020 election. “Had you been vice president on January 6th,” the ABC anchor asked, “would you have certified the election results?
” This is what Trump insisted Vice President Mike Pence not do on that day, asking Pence to instead reject electoral votes submitted by states that preferred Biden. Eventually, Vance said that’s what he would have done.
“If I had been vice president, I would have told the states, like Pennsylvania, Georgia and so many others, that we needed to have multiple slates of electors, and I think the U.S. Congress should have fought over it from there,” Vance said. “That is the legitimate way to deal with an election that a lot of folks, including me, think had a lot of problems in 2020.”
It is not a legitimate way to do so, at all.
Particularly when considering the purported “problems” that Vance identified.
“Do I think it was a problem that big technology companies, working with the intelligence services, censored the presidential campaign of Donald Trump? Yes,” he said at another point in the interview.
“Do I think it’s a problem that Pennsylvania changed its balloting rules in the middle of the election season in a way that even some courts in Pennsylvania have said was illegal? Yes, I think these were problems, George.”……..
Vance has spent years reframing those comments, as when he said that Trump was “leading our political discourse to a very negative place.” His spin is that he was wrong and Trump’s presidency was great, and that was enough to get Trump to endorse him in 2022 and propel him to his current position.
Well, that and a repeated willingness to embrace Trump’s rhetoric, no matter how negative the place where Vance later ends up.
As when he said during an interview Sunday that he would have done exactly what Trump wanted on Jan. 6, 2021, and blocked electors from states that voted for Joe Biden — triggering a dangerous challenge to American democracy.
Vance was speaking with ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos, who seemed to be focused on testing the limits of the senator’s loyalty to Trump. If there’s a limit, Stephanopoulos didn’t find it.
Asked, for example, how he felt about Trump’s having been found liable for sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll, one of many women who have accused Trump of misconduct, Vance waved it away. “I think it’s actually very unfair to the victims of sexual assault,” Vance said, “to say that somehow their lives are being worse by electing Donald Trump for president, when what he’s trying to do, I think is restore prosperity.”
The prospect of future economic benefit may not be the consolation for assault victims that Vance assumes.
Vance also disparaged the verdict, suggesting that New York is one of several “extremely left-wing jurisdictions” where Trump is facing charges, implying that this was a stacking of the deck against Trump instead of a result of his alleged crimes while he lived in those jurisdictions.
The argument that a jury would rule against Trump simply because of politics, of course, is of a piece with the prevalent idea on the right that Democrats are members of a credulous hive mind.
(As an aside, the senator’s effusive disparagement of wealthy donors bankrolling aggressive legal fights may not land well with his primary political patron, Peter Thiel.)
Stephanopoulos then asked Vance about the 2020 election. “Had you been vice president on January 6th,” the ABC anchor asked, “would you have certified the election results?
” This is what Trump insisted Vice President Mike Pence not do on that day, asking Pence to instead reject electoral votes submitted by states that preferred Biden. Eventually, Vance said that’s what he would have done.
“If I had been vice president, I would have told the states, like Pennsylvania, Georgia and so many others, that we needed to have multiple slates of electors, and I think the U.S. Congress should have fought over it from there,” Vance said. “That is the legitimate way to deal with an election that a lot of folks, including me, think had a lot of problems in 2020.”
It is not a legitimate way to do so, at all.
Particularly when considering the purported “problems” that Vance identified.
“Do I think it was a problem that big technology companies, working with the intelligence services, censored the presidential campaign of Donald Trump? Yes,” he said at another point in the interview.
“Do I think it’s a problem that Pennsylvania changed its balloting rules in the middle of the election season in a way that even some courts in Pennsylvania have said was illegal? Yes, I think these were problems, George.”……..
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pot calling the kettle black?
Wait what? Smdh.
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