Next Speaker of the House? (1 Viewer)

I hope the numbers jump to at least 30 that vote against him.

bdb13 said:

I hope the numbers jump to at least 30 that vote against him.

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25 this third round. I'm sure it will go up more if this nonsense keeps up.

Republican conference meeting at noon central.

DaveXA said:

25 this third round. I'm sure it will go up more if this nonsense keeps up.

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Yeah, I think someone had said they had no votes staggered to increase with each round.

I feel like the funniest outcome would be that enough Republicans get fed up with Jordan forcing more votes that they refuse to show up for the vote and lower the threshold for Jeffries to get nominated.

Lol...

Republican conference just voted for Jordan to drop out. He's done. Looks like there will be another conference Monday to pick a different candidate and vote again Tuesday.

Past three weeks, Jordan has been sporting his sports coat. Now that he's out, he burning that summa a birch.

Ha! He went all in and comes out of it weakened.. good stuff.

How much longer will it take Republicans to accept that they're going to have to work with Democrats if they're ever going to have a functioning House? The MAGA extremist in the House won't allow for any other option within their caucus, that much should be clear by now.

These boo freaking hoo sad Republicans coming out of the conference and blaming Democrats for voting with the 8 Republicans who ousted McCarthy. The sound like cry babies. Good lord, the people who voted for them are getting what they deserve.

coldseat said:

How much longer will it take Republicans to accept that they're going to have to work with Democrats is they're ever going to have a functioning House? The MAGA extremist in the House won't allow for any other option within their caucus, that much should be clear by now.

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I agree, but they'd rather let the country burn than work with Democrats.

DaveXA said:

These boo freaking hoo sad Republicans coming out of the conference and blaming Democrats for voting with the 8 Republicans who ousted McCarthy. The sound like cry babies. Good lord, the people who voted for them are getting what they deserve.

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I honestly don't even think their own voters really buy that. Everyone knows that if the Republicans could get their shirt together there'd be a speaker. They can't and so there's not.

SaintForLife said:

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So, who do you actually support then?

DaveXA said:

So, who do you actually support then?

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I wouldn't say I would support any of the candidates although Jordan would have been better than McCarthy.

McCarthy is part of the uniparty that's helped accumulate 30 trillion in debt by spending massive amounts of money. Jordan has done some good things like calling out the online censorship by the government, but then he's also protected Big Tech in the past. So while he's better than McCarthy, that's not saying much.

I would support anyone who will break the the uniparty corruption and out of control spending. I definitely support votes on single bills, no more CR, allowing votes on ammendment for every bill, and transparency. I doubt the establishment/Uniparty will let that happen. Look how they have conditioned people to think rubber stamping the corruption and spending is "democracy."

Justin Amash would be a great speaker. I remember yall loved him during the Trump presidency. Here's what he's said about what's needed for a Speaker:

A good speaker would follow the Constitution, uphold the agreed-upon rules, let everyone read the bills and genuinely participate, keep the House transparent and accountable, and mainly stay out of the way as America’s elected representatives draft, debate, and amend legislation.

The best scenario for House Republicans is an outside, legislatively experienced, nonpartisan speaker, who upholds the rules of the House and focuses exclusively on process.

Republicans can then easily choose any majority leader they want to drive their legislative priorities, and they’ll continue to have the same House majority they have now to implement their vision. The Republican leader can focus much more on the substantive agenda if that person isn’t also being held accountable for the process

Imagine thinking that the democratic process of choosing a speaker is somehow bad for democracy. When our representatives are free to disagree—when consensus is hard-earned rather than commanded—*that’s* when representative government is meaningful and worthy of admiration.

Concentrated power has decimated the House, turning legislators into actors. Here’s how many votes the speaker has allowed on floor-offered (not prescreened) amendments/year:

2011: 414
2012: 153
2013: 61
2014: 96
2015: 94
2016: 29
2017: 0
2018: 0
2019: 0
2020: 0
2021: 0
2022: 0

Prior to this long streak of zeros, there had not been a congressional term with consecutive zeros in the history of Congress. “Saving democracy” within our constitutional republic must include stopping this assault on representative government by recent speakers of the House.

It’s important to note that this wasn’t due to a change in House rules; it was due to a choice by consecutive speakers—one Republican, one Democrat—to shut down the legislative process and undermine your representation in the House of Representatives.

SaintForLife said:

I wouldn't say I would support any of the candidates although Jordan would have been better than McCarthy.

McCarthy is part of the uniparty that's helped accumulate 30 trillion in debt by spending massive amounts of money. Jordan has done some good things like calling out the online censorship by the government, but then he's also protected Big Tech in the past. So while he's better than McCarthy, that's not saying much.

I would support anyone who will break the the uniparty corruption and out of control spending. I definitely support votes on single bills, no more CR, allowing votes on ammendment for every bill, and transparency. I doubt the establishment/Uniparty will let that happen. Look how they have conditioned people to think rubber stamping the corruption and spending is "democracy."

Justin Amash would be a great speaker. I remember yall loved him during the Trump presidency. Here's what he's said about what's needed for a Speaker:

A good speaker would follow the Constitution, uphold the agreed-upon rules, let everyone read the bills and genuinely participate, keep the House transparent and accountable, and mainly stay out of the way as America’s elected representatives draft, debate, and amend legislation.

The best scenario for House Republicans is an outside, legislatively experienced, nonpartisan speaker, who upholds the rules of the House and focuses exclusively on process.

Republicans can then easily choose any majority leader they want to drive their legislative priorities, and they’ll continue to have the same House majority they have now to implement their vision. The Republican leader can focus much more on the substantive agenda if that person isn’t also being held accountable for the process

Imagine thinking that the democratic process of choosing a speaker is somehow bad for democracy. When our representatives are free to disagree—when consensus is hard-earned rather than commanded—*that’s* when representative government is meaningful and worthy of admiration.

Concentrated power has decimated the House, turning legislators into actors. Here’s how many votes the speaker has allowed on floor-offered (not prescreened) amendments/year:

2011: 414
2012: 153
2013: 61
2014: 96
2015: 94
2016: 29
2017: 0
2018: 0
2019: 0
2020: 0
2021: 0
2022: 0

Prior to this long streak of zeros, there had not been a congressional term with consecutive zeros in the history of Congress. “Saving democracy” within our constitutional republic must include stopping this assault on representative government by recent speakers of the House.

It’s important to note that this wasn’t due to a change in House rules; it was due to a choice by consecutive speakers—one Republican, one Democrat—to shut down the legislative process and undermine your representation in the House of Representatives.

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Appreciate the response.