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    Attorney General Merrick Garland has assigned the U.S. attorney in Chicago to review documents marked classified that were found at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in Washington, two sources with knowledge of the inquiry told CBS News. The roughly 10 documents are from President Biden's vice-presidential office at the center, the sources said. CBS News has learned the FBI is also involved in the U.S. attorney's inquiry.

    The material was identified by personal attorneys for Mr. Biden on Nov. 2, just before the midterm elections, Richard Sauber, special counsel to the president confirmed. The documents were discovered when Mr. Biden's personal attorneys "were packing files housed in a locked closet to prepare to vacate office space at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C.," Sauber said in a statement to CBS News. The documents were contained in a folder that was in a box with other unclassified papers, the sources said. The sources revealed neither what the documents contain nor their level of classification. A source familiar with the matter told CBS News the documents did not contain nuclear secrets.


    ...The White House statement said that it “is cooperating” with the department but did not explain why Mr. Biden’s team waited more than two months to announce the discovery of the documents, which came a week before the midterm congressional elections when the news would have been an explosive last-minute development.

    It also came shortly before Mr. Garland’s Nov. 18 appointment of Jack Smith as a special counsel to take over the criminal investigation into Mr. Trump’s failure to return a large number of classified documents that were sent to his Florida residence and club, Mar-a-Lago, when he left office — even after being subpoenaed.


    A government watchdog is demanding the US attorney probing Hunter Biden in Delaware investigate tens of millions in anonymous donations from China to the University of Pennsylvania, where an academic center is named for his father, President Biden.

    The Ivy League college raked in a total of $54.6 million from 2014 through June 2019 in donations from China, including $23.1 million in anonymous gifts starting in 2016, according to public records.

    Most of the anonymous donations came after the university announced in February 2017 that it would create the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement. Joe Biden, whose term as vice president had just ended, was to lead the center and was also named a professor at the university.

    The center, which is located in Washington, DC, opened its doors in February 2018. Antony Blinken, whom Biden named as secretary of state, briefly served as its managing director.

    The Ivy League university received $15.8 million in anonymous Chinese gifts that year, including one eye-popping $14.5 million donation in May 2018, records show.

     
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    LOL
    Stefanik:
    —Hur was in on the corrupt Steele dossier.
    —Cited by DOJIG as having direct knowledge of FBI relationship with Steele.

    Stefaniks own evidence:
    —Hur LIKELY had knowledge of communications. He didn’t even rise to the level of the previous person who was mentioned as “may have been briefed.”

    Nope…he likely knew the FBI talked to Steele, so he’s obviously corrupt.
     
    SNL should do a skit about Hunter always out in the garage pretending to be working on the corvette, but really digging through boxes looking for classified documents to sell to China.
     
    You cannot possibly believe this nonsense. You’re not that stupid. I keep telling myself that. 🤦‍♀️

    Whoever convinced you that the FBI is in bed with the democrats could sell ice in Alaska in January. It’s one of the absolutely stupidest things I’ve ever read.

    Just looking at this from a common sense perspective - which is most likely:

    the FBI (known to be very conservative and full of Republicans) and the DOJ (same, same) are all in a big conspiracy. It involves thousands of people between the democrats and the two agencies. But Durham, who spent millions of dollars and over two years investigating it couldn’t find anything. Nobody cracked, or turned anyone else in. He brought 2 people to trial for trivial charges and lost both cases. There’s no “there” there.

    Or:

    we have an individual (Trump) who lies as much as he breathes and is extremely corrupt. He has the ability to con people to stick up for him and believe a lot of his lies. Until they don’t, upon which time he starts telling lies about them, too. For whatever reason, mostly for money/ratings, we have an entire cottage industry of people who amplify these lies, because they see him get away with it, or they can ride his coattails, or because they can monetize it, or because they want to destroy our country.
    I am that stupid tho
     
    SNL should do a skit about Hunter always out in the garage pretending to be working on the corvette, but really digging through boxes looking for classified documents to sell to China.
    Now that would be funny, so SNL will stay away from it.
     
    Yes, as someone who deals with classified documents on a daily basis, I can say that mishandling classified documents is a security risk.

    I can also say, with certainty, that someone who comes forward and says “hey, I found this classified material at my house. I need to return it. What else do I need to do?” And who cooperated fully with a damage assessment is likely to receive minimal, if any, disciplinary action.

    On the other hand, a person who is know. To have classified material at their home, refuses to return it, ignores subpoenas, moves the material to hide it, and has their lawyer lie and say there is no classified material will receive significant disciplinary action.

    To make an analogy…Do you think a person who hides hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise under their clothes and walks out of a Walmart should be treated the same as someone who forgot to scan the big pack of paper towels under their cart and immediately walks back in to the store saying “I forgot to pay for this”?
    As someone who has handled classified top secret documents for a long time as well knows that whether you alerted someone, gave them back or didn’t, what’s more important is what’s in them. Tump could have 1000 and Biden 3 or Vice versa, 1 of the 3 can be more destructive than any of the 1000. It’s not about how many or who did the right thing it’s about what was in them. Doing the right thing means nothing if damage was already done.
     
    I am not a conspiracy theorist (just kidding, I am) and not one to pat myself on the back, but I think I called this back in 2020. Is it just me or does it seem the DNC wants Biden gone now?

     
    As someone who has handled classified top secret documents for a long time as well knows that whether you alerted someone, gave them back or didn’t, what’s more important is what’s in them. Tump could have 1000 and Biden 3 or Vice versa, 1 of the 3 can be more destructive than any of the 1000. It’s not about how many or who did the right thing it’s about what was in them. Doing the right thing means nothing if damage was already done.
    That's true, and it's not true.

    Yes, the damage may have already been done. But, doing the right thing means that a damage assessment can be done, and the damage can be minimized or avoided, depending on what the situation is. Keeping the documents can make the situation so much worse and prevents anyone from taking steps to minimize or prevent damage.
     
    So since we 2 folks here who have experience with classified documents, what is the significance of the fact that nobody was missing the documents that Biden had (I read somewhere that they were notes either for a meeting with a foreign dignitary or maybe notes from a meeting with a dignitary) and the government was very keen to recover the documents that Trump took?

    To me that would make it seem that the documents Biden had were possibly duplicates or were original notes that made it into a paper prepared after the meeting.

    But Trump took stuff that they knew was missing right away, he did it on purpose, and he is still refusing to cooperate with the government by refusing to name the people he had go through the boxes.

    Biden’s staff who recovered the documents has already been identified and interviewed.

    There just isn’t any comparison as far as cooperation and obstruction.
     

    Talk about dishonest framing. Biden did the opposite of keep it a secret - he immediately informed the National Archive and the DOJ. That very day. He also directed his staff to look through all his other papers as well.

    He wasn’t on the ballot, he had zero obligation to hold some kind of cockamamie press conference when he didn’t know what they would find.
     
    So since we 2 folks here who have experience with classified documents, what is the significance of the fact that nobody was missing the documents that Biden had (I read somewhere that they were notes either for a meeting with a foreign dignitary or maybe notes from a meeting with a dignitary) and the government was very keen to recover the documents that Trump took?

    To me that would make it seem that the documents Biden had were possibly duplicates or were original notes that made it into a paper prepared after the meeting.

    But Trump took stuff that they knew was missing right away, he did it on purpose, and he is still refusing to cooperate with the government by refusing to name the people he had go through the boxes.

    Biden’s staff who recovered the documents has already been identified and interviewed.

    There just isn’t any comparison as far as cooperation and obstruction.
    Well, I agree about the fact that there is no comparison to the two cases beyond they both had documents marked classified found after they left office.

    As for your questions, I'll try to answer them, but obviously there's going to be a lot of speculation. I've also heard that Biden had some talking point notes (I heard they were for a phone call). My first guess would be that it was a set of notes for the phone call, probably the only hard copy, possibly just scribbled down on a notepad, and it was just assumed by those involved that they were destroyed after the call was over. As for Trump, what I seem to recall hearing was that it all started with the "Love letter from Kim." Someone at the archives was cataloging/storing Trump's presidential records, and noticed that the love letters from Kim were nowhere to be found. So, that started them looking, and they found that there were other records that were not there. That started the communications between the archives and Trump to return the documents.
     
    Idealogues exist and have existed in the FBI and law enforcement too. Read up on Hoover's Cointelpro domestic spying program in the 1960's and 70's against Black Panthers, civil rights activists and matches being spied upon using U-2 spy planes, double agents, LBJ had FBI spy on his political enemies like William Fulbright, who began questioning his handling of the Vietnam War, anti-war radicals, SDS and the Weatherman. FBI's alleged and supposed involvement in the JFK, RFK, MLK Jr. assassinations, and even the attempted assassination of George Wallace in 1972.

    MK-Ultra says hi, too.

    Don't be so naive.
    I think you are paranoid due to some examples from old administrations. Also some of that stuff you cited is just wacky conspiracy theories. Nevertheless, ideologues do and always will exist in the FBI, and they tend to be right wing idealogues, but with that said, I think the FBI is a far more professional organization than any investigative group setup by House Republicans. The FBI still needs oversight, and they still commit some underhanded stuff, like Comey announcing the Hillary investigation and not the Trump investigation, but by and large they are trustworthy.
     

    So Biden didn’t announce that he has discovers documents and was following the legal process to return them, meanwhile Trump knew about the documents for over a year and he didn’t announce his crimes of lying about the possession and refusing to return them. Besides, most of these types of things are handled out of the media. There wasn’t a valid reason for Biden to announce that he had discovered secret documents that he was returning.
     

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