Next Speaker of the House? (3 Viewers)

DJ1BigTymer said:

Impossible, House seats are a two year term. The Speaker position should be an elected official because that position in second in the line of succession.

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It's not impossible. Not if we separate out the speaker position and make it a position elected by the public. They wouldn't be a voting member of the house, so we could set the term for that position to whatever we decide.

Of course, it is "impossible" in the sense that it would probably take a constitutional amendment since it's not like the house is going to pass a law giving up their power of selecting the speaker. So, it's not impossible, but it's "impossible".

The reason i suggested it span over a term of two congresses is to try and make the position less partisan.

samiam5211 said:

It's not impossible. Not if we separate out the speaker position and make it a position elected by the public. They wouldn't be a voting member of the house, so we could set the term for that position to whatever we decide.

Of course, it is "impossible" in the sense that it would probably take a constitutional amendment since it's not like the house is going to pass a law giving up their power of selecting the speaker. So, it's not impossible, but it's "impossible".

The reason i suggested it span over a term of two congresses is to try and make the position less partisan.

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Yeah, like I said...impossible.

Another National election for SoH is something the world doesn't need! It would end being Presidential Election Part Deux: Electric Boogaloo, that will not end partisanship, that will introduce another level of chaos!!!

Agree with my rep Nancy Mace here.

DJ1BigTymer said:

Yeah, like I said...impossible.

Another National election for SoH is something the world doesn't need! It would end being Presidential Election Part Deux: Electric Boogaloo, that will not end partisanship, that will introduce another level of chaos!!!

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Plus if the Speaker is elected by the House, by members who are elected by the public, the Speaker is still elected by a representative process . . . in the same way laws are passed.

MT15 said:

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If Sykes is going to be a smart arse from the sidelines, maybe he can try being a little more constructive and suggest a more, amendable solution that works, instead of sounding like that bitter little man who has no voice.

Besides, in 2023, very few R’s see Trump as their “daddy” anymore. Otherwise, this whole ridiculous, entertaining but embarrassing political theater wouldn’t be going on right now and McCarthy would’ve been confirmed as the new House Speaker over 24 hours ago. Trump still has some of his grass roots base but he’s no “kingmaker” and he isn’t the feared tyrant anymore like he was 2-3 years ago.

xpuma20x said:

I'd love for Johnson to state something like "We don't care about your grandstanding, just state the name" when they try to grandstand on their 3 second time in the light.

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You don’t turn down getting some free, cheap, unearned political capital, even if it’s being thrust upon you by politically-inept, incompetent, clueless ideologues. If you’re a relatively new, inexperienced neophyte congressman, never let a halfway decent opportunity go to waste. Besides, it’s not your name, reputation or career being necessarily dragged through the mud.

Another sign that House Republicans are not serious people, when a reporter asked Donalds if he was concerned about retaliation for defection from McCarthy, his response was "Man, I'm 6'4 275lbs, I ain't worrying about that"!

Saintman2884 said:

If Sykes is going to be a smart arse from the sidelines, maybe he can try being a little more constructive and suggest a more, amendable solution that works, instead of sounding like that bitter little man who has no voice.

Besides, in 2023, very few R’s see Trump as their “daddy” anymore. Otherwise, this whole ridiculous, entertaining but embarrassing political theater wouldn’t be going on right now and McCarthy would’ve been confirmed as the new House Speaker over 24 hours ago. Trump still has some of his grass roots base but he’s no “kingmaker” and he isn’t the feared tyrant anymore like he was 2-3 years ago.

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If someone nominated Trump do you have any doubt that a substantial number of Rs would vote for him? Those 20 who are gumming up the works would run to get a chance to vote for Trump. There would be quite a few rank and file that would give it serious consideration as well. It would be nihilistic of course, but that’s what the GOP is largely made up of these days.

DJ1BigTymer said:

Another sign that House Republicans are not serious people, when a reporter asked Donalds if he was concerned about retaliation for defection from McCarthy, his response was "Man, I'm 6'4 275lbs, I ain't worrying about that"!

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Thereby signifying he doesn’t understand anything about politics at all.

MT15 said:

If someone nominated Trump do you have any doubt that a substantial number of Rs would vote for him? Those 20 who are gumming up the works would run to get a chance to vote for Trump. There would be quite a few rank and file that would give it serious consideration as well. It would be nihilistic of course, but that’s what the GOP is largely made up of these days.

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Okay, now we’re being a bit silly, and a tad bit melodramatic. Trump didn’t know shirt about being POTUS, and the last three election cycles, Republican candidates have lost seats on all levels, no more evident than the recent 2022 midterms where GOP were expected to win a clear solid-red majority in the House and maybe a 1-2 seat advantage in the Senate, neither of which occured. He’s not politically viable, certainly not a kingmaker, and not a guy who wins races, period. He’s “effective” and “decisive” when he’s got a secure majority rubber-stamping his decisions, which wouldn’t be the case, here.

And more than likely, he’d lose control over them, too as they really don’t need him anymore. Agent Orange served his purpose, now retire to his country club in Florida and get fatter eating cheeseburgers and Diet Cokes.

Realistically that party has done nothing for years but look for liberal tears. If that group was doing their jobs they would have bills to get passed and could easily work thru this giving up votes to make this vote happen. But we have no bills because they have not been working.

Since all they know really is throwing a wrench in the gears of government they are now doing exactly that to their own.

I can't put into words how sad this really is.

Even kooks like Boebert are shrugging off Trump openly saying that he should rescind his endorsement of McCarthy and back someone else. Someone needs to tell Bobo Bear that a raging narcissist like Trump does not take kindly to people whom he perceived he created (and, let's be honest, in most cases, he did) questioning his authority. The 2024 primary season is going to be a hoot: Trump's revenge tour. The man is petty to an unfathomable tier. He will remember everyone who even remotely slighted him.

Saintman2884 said:

Okay, now we’re being a bit silly, and a tad bit melodramatic. Trump didn’t know shirt about being POTUS, and the last three election cycles, Republican candidates have lost seats on all levels, no more evident than the recent 2022 midterms where GOP were expected to win a clear solid-red majority in the House and maybe a 1-2 seat advantage in the Senate, neither of which occured. He’s not politically viable, certainly not a kingmaker, and not a guy who wins races, period. He’s “effective” and “decisive” when he’s got a secure majority rubber-stamping his decisions, which wouldn’t be the case, here.

And more than likely, he’d lose control over them, too as they really don’t need him anymore. Agent Orange served his purpose, now retire to his country club in Florida and get fatter eating cheeseburgers and Diet Cokes.

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Well, you’re in denial. Rs are still in thrall to Trump. They cannot wait to run bogus investigations to please him, they still avoid criticizing him openly like the plague. In my state the latest poll shows that most Rs favor him for president in 2024 and that was run in the past couple of months. I would like to think they will move on from him and in this affair they aren’t paying attention to his wishes, but I doubt they would openly vote against him if he appeared on a ballot. If it was a secret ballot, sure, but nobody in the R party wants to be seen as openly voting against him. Not at this point in time.

MT15 said:

Well, you’re in denial. Rs are still in thrall to Trump. They cannot wait to run bogus investigations to please him, they still avoid criticizing him openly like the plague. In my state the latest poll shows that most Rs favor him for president in 2024 and that was run in the past couple of months. I would like to think they will move on from him and in this affair they aren’t paying attention to his wishes, but I doubt they would openly vote against him if he appeared on a ballot. If it was a secret ballot, sure, but nobody in the R party wants to be seen as openly voting against him. Not at this point in time.

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Well, if they want to continue losing elections and even more seats in the House and Senate, sure, forking go ahead and nominate Agent Orange to be their party's candidate, that'll ensure their terminal decline even more. If Trump does run and wins the GOP nomination for President in 2024, it will probably be due to because a better, more workable alternative like Ron Desantis opts not too because he doesn't want to ruin his one opportunity to win and if he runs in 2 years against Biden, he wouldn't win. Desantis is eyeing a 2028 presidential run when his chances are most favorable and by that stage, Trump will be close to his mid-80's, even more dementia-riddled, addle-brained and cognitively incoherent then he is now.

Trump, is also a bit of an embarassment and a bad joke to even some of the far-right MAGA's. He's not very intelligent, particularly astute, have the cagey political instincts, saaviness like a Dick Cheney, or Nixon. He is kind of a poor man's populist version of George Wallace with maybe a bit more charisma, and penchant for pandering to political extremes.

there are no moderate Rs left. In the past, the moderates would step up and put the flame throwers in their place. They would be told to cut it out, or they would find their committee assignments to be severely lacking and their next campaign would be without Party funding. Now, the so-called “normal” Rs are all caving. Just tell us what you want and we might surrender. There is simply no integrity left in the R party.

I think there are some... but only like three or four.

From yesterday, but still seems relevant.

A summary of the last two days for Kevin McCarthy in one picture...