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    Speaking of sick: you have to be a monster to shoot little kids. But what are you when you see it happen over and over and won’t do anything about it?
     
    Semper said:
    I am referring to insurance licensing et
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    If people can't afford insurance for their guns, and are hunting to feed their families, there are programs to help them buy food. Per the chart below from https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761, it's the #1 cause of death of adolescents. Things need to be done.

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    MT15 said:
    I know, I get the idea to not do anything in haste, yet we’ve been here too many times, where the idea that we can’t do anything immediately after turns into we can’t do anything. I don’t trust these guys to do what’s right. In fact, I’m sure they won’t do anything if they can get away with it. He needs to shut up and listen, not chide people who want the carnage to stop.
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    We have a mass killing almost everyday. They're not as huge as the one in Texas, but they're non-stop, so the argument to wait until settle-down is invalid.
     
    Is it a coincidence that a gunman in Uvalde Texas shot a bunch of Hispanic kids just days after the mayor of Uvalde complained about migrants on FOX news?
     
    Eeyore said:
    Is it a coincidence that a gunman in Uvalde Texas shot a bunch of Hispanic kids just days after the mayor of Uvalde complained about migrants on FOX news?
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    I originally asked the same question, but I don't think so. The 18-year old gunman was Hispanic and lived with his extended family.

    Unless, he grew some type of inner hate for Hispanics because of the way he was bullied or treated, I don't think this was race related. I think this was just a kid with a lot of mental problems that decided to go out by killing is grandmother and a lot of kids on his way out. Evil.
     
    coldseat said:
    I originally asked the same question, but I don't think so. The 18-year old gunman was Hispanic and lived with his extended family.

    Unless, he grew some type of inner hate for Hispanics because of the way he was bullied or treated, I don't think this was race related. I think this was just a kid with a lot of mental problems that decided to go out by killing is grandmother and a lot of kids on his way out. Evil.
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    I didn't know the ethnicity of the shooter. I just saw the vid and couldn't believe the timing.
     
    Eerie similarities

    Almost like a memo went out
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    A mass shooter killed 19 children and two adults at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas on Tuesday. And Republican politicians took to Twitter in the wake of this tragedy to express their condolences.

    But if you look closely, you’ll notice something odd. Many of the messages were identical, as though they’re all just copying and pasting the same tweets from the last mass shooting.

    There seems to be a formula for how right-wing politicians are now responding to mass shootings on social media that goes something like this:

    I am [HORRIFIED, HEARTBROKEN, ETC] at the senseless tragedy in [LOCATION] today. We are [LIFTING THEM UP IN PRAYER, PRAYING FOR THEM] and thank the heroic efforts of [POLICE, FIRST RESPONDERS, ETC] on the scene.

    That’s it. No promise that laws will be passed to help stop these mass shootings from happening again; no recognition that the U.S. is the only wealthy country in the world where mass shootings happen frequently; no acknowledgement that children in other countries don’t have to participate in active shooter drills. The only thing politicians can muster is “thoughts and prayers” and “thank God for our cops.”

    Take a look at some of the tweets from yesterday, with an emphasis in the text from Gizmodo to show just how identical these statements really are.

    Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky:

    Horrified and heartbroken by reports of the disgusting violence directed at innocent schoolkids in Uvalde, Texas. The entire country is praying for the children, families, teachers, and staff and the first responders on the scene.
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    Sen. Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee:

    Horrified and heartbroken to learn of the significant loss of life in the shooting in Uvalde, Texas. Please join me in lifting their loved ones up in prayer. Thank you to the local first responders working on the scene.
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    Gov. Doug Ducey of Arizona:

    This is heartbreaking and soul wrenching. Our prayers are with the parents, families, students and staff of Robb Elementary in Uvalde, TX at this unimaginable time. Thankful for the heroic efforts of medical pros, law enforcement and community members who responded so quickly.
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    Sen. John Hoeven of North Dakota:

    We’re horrified by the news out of Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, TX today. Mikey and I are heartbroken for the families and loved ones of the victims & grateful for the first responders and law enforcement who worked to save lives.
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    Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia:

    Marty, the girls, and I are heartbroken over news from Uvalde, Tx. For children and innocent adults, including the school teacher, to be taken from this world in such a depraved, violent way, it is incomprehensible. We are lifting up the families of these victims, the first responders on the scene, and the entire community in prayer.
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    Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas:

    Heidi & I are fervently lifting up in prayer the children and families in the horrific shooting in Uvalde. We are in close contact with local officials, but the precise details are still unfolding. Thank you to heroic law enforcement & first responders for acting so swiftly.
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    …. The list goes on and on. And they all use the same formula.

    But oddly, it wasn’t just Republicans who used a similar mash-up of platitudes on Tuesday. Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, a Democrat from Arizona, used language identical to the Republicans:

    We are horrified and heartbroken by the senseless tragedy unfolding at Robb Elementary School in Texas and grateful to the first responders for acting swiftly. No families should ever have to fear violence in their children’s schools.
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    gizmodo.com

    Republican Ghouls Send Identical Tweets After 19 Kids Killed in School Shooting

    Politicians like Ted Cruz have developed a special formula for 'thoughts and prayers' on Twitter.
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    The shooter's AR15 was apparently made by Daniel Defense.


    "2017 Friends of NRA Gun of the Year: The Daniel Defense V7

    by Jason J. Brown - Thursday, December 1, 2016

    Friends of NRA has chosen the Daniel Defense V7 as its 2017 Gun of the Year for their 25th anniversary, marking the first time an AR-15-style rifle has earned the prestigious honor.

    The AR-15, commonly referred to as “America’s Rifle,” is the most popular rifle in the United States, with an estimated 5 million AR’s owned by American sportsmen, competitive shooters, hunters, law enforcement professionals and hobbyists – and increasingly, everyday Americans.

    “I’m very glad that [Friends of NRA] chose this product to be Gun of the Year because it finally states that [the AR-15] is a mainstream product, a product everyone should have, and a product everyone should learn to shoot,” said Marty Daniel, Founder and CEO of Daniel Defense."

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    2017 Friends of NRA Gun of the Year: The Daniel Defense V7

    Friends of NRA has chosen the Daniel Defense V7 as its 2017 Gun of the Year for their 25th anniversary, marking the first time an AR-15-style rifle has earned the prestigious honor.
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    Isn't that terrific?
     
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    Optimus Prime said:
    Eerie similarities

    Almost like a memo went out
    =======================

    A mass shooter killed 19 children and two adults at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas on Tuesday. And Republican politicians took to Twitter in the wake of this tragedy to express their condolences.

    But if you look closely, you’ll notice something odd. Many of the messages were identical, as though they’re all just copying and pasting the same tweets from the last mass shooting.

    There seems to be a formula for how right-wing politicians are now responding to mass shootings on social media that goes something like this:

    I am [HORRIFIED, HEARTBROKEN, ETC] at the senseless tragedy in [LOCATION] today. We are [LIFTING THEM UP IN PRAYER, PRAYING FOR THEM] and thank the heroic efforts of [POLICE, FIRST RESPONDERS, ETC] on the scene.

    That’s it. No promise that laws will be passed to help stop these mass shootings from happening again; no recognition that the U.S. is the only wealthy country in the world where mass shootings happen frequently; no acknowledgement that children in other countries don’t have to participate in active shooter drills. The only thing politicians can muster is “thoughts and prayers” and “thank God for our cops.”

    Take a look at some of the tweets from yesterday, with an emphasis in the text from Gizmodo to show just how identical these statements really are.

    Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky:



    Sen. Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee:



    Gov. Doug Ducey of Arizona:



    Sen. John Hoeven of North Dakota:



    Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia:



    Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas:


    …. The list goes on and on. And they all use the same formula.

    But oddly, it wasn’t just Republicans who used a similar mash-up of platitudes on Tuesday. Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, a Democrat from Arizona, used language identical to the Republicans:



    gizmodo.com

    Republican Ghouls Send Identical Tweets After 19 Kids Killed in School Shooting

    Politicians like Ted Cruz have developed a special formula for 'thoughts and prayers' on Twitter.
    gizmodo.com gizmodo.com
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    I really wish there was a fork you emoji for these pathetic Neanderthals
     
    5 million AR’s owned by American sportsmen,Really? What kind of sport does an A.R. 15 gun owner play?
     
    gummbo said:
    5 million AR’s owned by American sportsmen,Really? What kind of sport does an A.R. 15 gun owner play?
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    There actually are shooting competitions. I have a couple of relatives who are gun enthusiasts and they've gone to tournaments before. They basically shoot at targets from a variety of positions, prone, kneeling, standing as well as hit stationary and moving targets. I've seen some video of what they do and it's really challenging. I believe they use an M4 for their competitions.
     
    DaveXA said:
    There actually are shooting competitions. I have a couple of relatives who are gun enthusiasts and they've gone to tournaments before. They basically shoot at targets from a variety of positions, prone, kneeling, standing as well as hit stationary and moving targets. I've seen some video of what they do and it's really challenging. I believe they use an M4 for their competitions.
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    Completely forgot about that type of competition, and I can see them using an M4 today but an A.R. 15 is designed to rip human flesh apart unless they’re hanging dummies out in this range I don’t see the need for an A.R. 15.
     
    The 9-11 comparison is one I hadn’t heard
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    …….The most common reaction on the right is to offer, as the Internet meme has it, “thoughts and prayers.”

    It’s as if Uvalde had been struck by a hurricane or tornado that we poor humans can do nothing to affect.

    Indeed, Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) tweeted, “You cannot legislate away evil.”

    That is not, of course, the Republican reaction to Islamist terrorist attacks. After Sept. 11, 2001, they did not shrug their shoulders and say “What can you do?”

    They worked with Democrats to massively beef up airport security while also launching invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Likewise, Republicans have no problem passing legislation to address the perceived evils that concern them — e.g., abortion or critical race theory.

    Many members of the “pro-life party,” however, simply do not appear to view the murder of children who are out of the womb as an issue that cries out for a legislative solution……

     

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