All things political. Coronavirus Edition. (5 Viewers)

JimEverett said:

The restrictions themselves are not Orwellian. What seems Orwellian to me are people who are calling Trump a dictator, authoritarian, fascist, etc. while forcing Americans to cancel graduations, funerals, weddings, and now Thanksgiving family gatherings.
And it seems even more Orwellian when those same people do not abide by the rules they impose on others.

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Hypocritical behavior (do as I say and not as I do) is unacceptable - it’s a failure of leadership and it sucks.

But certainly you recognize that social measures in the midst of an acute viral outbreak is not the same as a general, authoritarian approach to governance.

insidejob said:

Dude, I'm pretty sure you just circled the entire country. Or may as well have because it's about to go down.

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Looks like they listened to my complaint..lol.

superchuck500 said:

Hypocritical behavior (do as I say and not as I do) is unacceptable - it’s a failure of leadership and it sucks.

But certainly you recognize that social measures in the midst of an acute viral outbreak is not the same as a general, authoritarian approach to governance.

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My guess is he wants to pretend he doesn't, but knows better....

Eeyore said:

Leaked White House report warns current Covid-19 mitigation efforts 'inadequate'

Record high of more than 76,000 people hospitalised on Wednesday as report warns of ‘further deterioration’ of situation

www.theguardian.com

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"Current mitigation efforts are inadequate and must be increased.”

The NY Times homepage shows this as a gif over time. Not sure if I can copy it here.

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These are better to view as the graphic.





This one you really have to watch. I can't see a way to link this here..

The wave of new restrictions in the United States follows national and regional lockdowns in Europe, where outbreaks surged past their spring peaks but cases per capita remained lower than many Upper Midwest states. A couple weeks into those lockdowns, countries with new restrictions may be seeing results: The rate of new daily cases has begun to level off or drop in France, Spain, Germany and Italy, though it continues to rise in the United Kingdom.

Mr. Hale said the Oxford data makes it clear that acting quickly and forcefully is the best shot governments have to combat the virus. And the more swiftly they can act, the shorter any lockdown-style policies need to be.

Some countries that implemented fast, early restrictions and robust test-and-trace programs have seen the most success. New Zealand recently lifted all restrictions following 10 days with no new cases. New Zealand’s prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, called it a validation of the country’s “go hard, go early” strategy, in which the country reacts rapidly to signs of community spread.

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Oh good, now the brilliant folks at Fox have opinions on Mardi Gras parades. They're actually safe because they're socially distanced and bars are not involved.

EmBeeFiveOhFour said:

Oh good, now the brilliant folks at Fox have opinions on Mardi Gras parades. They're actually safe because they're socially distanced and bars are not involved.

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"I'd like to invite you back to Mardi Gras" I'm gonna stop you there. Because the next two things that come out of your dumb mouth proves that you have never been to Mardi Gras in New Orleanns.

EmBeeFiveOhFour said:

Oh good, now the brilliant folks at Fox have opinions on Mardi Gras parades. They're actually safe because they're socially distanced and bars are not involved.

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Sounds like what a husband told his wife Mardi Gras was like when he was in NO on a business trip

"Oh no honey, you heard wrong, it was a classy tea and crumpet kind of thing"

So Biden is having (organizing?) a virtual meeting with both Republican and Democratic governors to discuss the pandemic today (he may be doing it now)

Is there any way trump can claim something like Biden is meddling/interfering since he never conceded and officially the transition isn't taking place

Therefore Biden has no right to reach out to the governors to discuss current or future actions or policies?
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WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) -- Joe Biden's meeting Thursday with a group of Democratic and Republican governors is his latest attempt to fight through President Donald Trump's unprecedented attempt to block the president-elect's transition to power.

Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris planned a virtual session in the afternoon with the National Governors Association's leadership team, which includes five Republicans and four Democrats. All the Democrats and a majority of the Republicans involved have acknowledged Biden as the winner of the White House election..................

EmBeeFiveOhFour said:

Oh good, now the brilliant folks at Fox have opinions on Mardi Gras parades. They're actually safe because they're socially distanced and bars are not involved.

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They ain't never been in one of them crowds.

I'd average, at least hopping between 3 different bars, but often it would be closer to 5-8, with some being repeats. Depends on how far I decided to walk.

wardorican said:

States That Imposed Few Restrictions Now Have the Worst Outbreaks (Published 2020)

Using an index that tracks policy responses to the pandemic, The Times analyzed outbreaks in each state relative to the state’s most recent containment measures.

www.nytimes.com

The NY Times homepage shows this as a gif over time. Not sure if I can copy it here.

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These are better to view as the graphic.

This one you really have to watch. I can't see a way to link this here..

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Don't worry, the "pretend it doesn't exist" method is going to work, you'll see.

EmBeeFiveOhFour said:

Oh good, now the brilliant folks at Fox have opinions on Mardi Gras parades. They're actually safe because they're socially distanced and bars are not involved.

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If I have one complaint about Mardi Gras, it's how people are so spread out and there's always so much room to move around.

Welcome to America, where little kids having to wear kevlar backpacks and practice active shooter drills is the price of freedom, but wearing a cloth mask for five minutes in Walmart is tyrannical government overreach.

JRad said:

Don't worry, the "pretend it doesn't exist" method is going to work, you'll see.



If I have one complaint about Mardi Gras, it's how people are so spread out and there's always so much room to move around.

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Ocean of Humanity and shoulder to shoulder, of course, are ways to describe sparse crowds.

JRad said:

Don't worry, the "pretend it doesn't exist" method is going to work, you'll see.



If I have one complaint about Mardi Gras, it's how people are so spread out and there's always so much room to move around.

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Actually, wait, I figured it out.

I understand why they think Mardi Gras in New Orleans isn't that crowded and socially distanced.

It's because "these people" are the people who show up with the "you're going to hell, if you're a catholic, liar, thief, adulterer, drunkard...." folks, and other than making fun of them, we mostly do stay away from them.

So, if that's the only experience they have, well...

Add another to the list...

GrandAdmiral said:

Add another to the list...

Senior Pentagon official Anthony Tata tests positive for Covid-19 | CNN Politics

Retired Army Brig. Gen. Anthony Tata, a top Pentagon official, has tested positive for Covid-19 after meeting with the Lithuanian minister of defense, according to a Pentagon statement.

www.cnn.com

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I bet he didn't wear a mask either. Oh, well, maybe he'll be okay. In the words of an Albanian kidnapper, "Good Luck"