Election Night (+4) in America - Result: Biden Elected President (3 Viewers)

Lapaz said:

NBC says that there are still 27k outstanding votes, and Biden leads by about 21k.

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The Secretary of State was just interviewed and says otherwise. Per her, except for that one county, all votes have been counted and submitted. Not sure what NBC is basing their info on, but I would think the SoS knows more.

Lapaz said:

NBC says that there are still 27k outstanding votes, and Biden leads by about 21k.

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Biden was supposed to easily win Wisconsin. Late polls showed him ahead by about 8%, but it appears that he is only going to win by 1 to 2%. On the other hand, polls seem to be dead-on in North Carolina and Georgia, where it was supposed to be a squeaker. Pollsters have a lot of work to do to analyze state polling differences.

I found the reason for the delay in Georgia. Humans, or machines, would be much more efficient.

DaveXA said:

I wouldn't call 2% a huge majority. It's significant enough though.

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It will be more when California votes come in. Remember Hillary was losing the popular vote on election night. It was the week after where California votes came in. There is almost 6 million outstanding votes in California. Biden will pad his lead 2-3 million because of California.

GrandAdmiral said:

The Secretary of State was just interviewed and says otherwise. Per her, except for that one county, all votes have been counted and submitted. Not sure what NBC is basing their info on, but I would think the SoS knows more.

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I assume that the Wisconsin SoS hasn't gotten the information out to the media. Besides saying that Biden won, did the SoS give the current tally?

Lapaz said:

Pollsters have a lot of work to do to analyze state polling differences.

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people said this after 2016 too. After that shirtshow, I tossed out anything under +5 pts for Biden. I figured anything 5 or under would be 50/50 because of how things went last time. I was hoping I was wrong, but some of these states should never have been this close. It's like trump said back then, he could shoot someone on 5th ave and people would still vote for him (paraphrased)

So Biden wins, but not convincingly enough for Trump to go away in shame and humiliation. And the GOP keeps a 51-49 edge in the Senate, ensuring that no meaningful legislation can be passed for two years at minimum. Which leaves no method for accomplishing anything other than executive order, all of which will be struck down by a 6-3 Supreme Court that will say "actually we were kidding about all those decisions 'deferring to the executive' for the past four years."

What a cluster.

SaulGoodmanEsq said:

The problem with not winning the Senate is the GOP will just block all of Biden's judicial nominees including Supreme Court appointments. Breyer is 82.

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Then after blocking his nominee for 3 years, campaign on Biden's "inability to even fill a court seat" while trump (intentionally not capitalized) was able to fill 3.

jdn9201 said:

The problem with the Warnock race is yeah he may be winning now, but once Collins drops out and his voters swing to Loeffler, Warnock is done. I think it’s pretty safe that the Rs keep both seats in Ga. the senate race to watch is the one in Michigan. I thought John James didn’t have a chance - it wouldn’t look good if he pulls off the upset.

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Collins only got 20% of the vote, and I wouldn't assume that 100% of his vote will go to Loeffler. Also, if you add up all of the Democrats and Republicans, even if you assume 100% party loyalty, they're both at about 45%. The difference will be where do the independents go. If Biden wins Georgia, then I think that is an indication that a democrat can win the senate.

Trump is asking for a recount in WI. Scott Walker says the lead may be too big for Trump to over come. Past recounts have moved the needle by 300 and 131. It’s a big ask to change 20k.

Lapaz said:

Collins only got 20% of the vote, and I wouldn't assume that 100% of his vote will go to Loeffler. Also, if you add up all of the Democrats and Republicans, even if you assume 100% party loyalty, they're both at about 45%. The difference will be where do the independents go. If Biden wins Georgia, then I think that is an indication that a democrat can win the senate.

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No one who voted for Collins would even consider voting for Warnock. Maybe they'll stay home but probably not if the Senate is on the line.

Peters just went up on James in MI by 1k votes with 92% in. Still much of Wayne county left which benefits Peters.

SaulGoodmanEsq said:

No one who voted for Collins would even consider voting for Warnock. Maybe they'll stay home but probably not if the Senate is on the line.

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Did GA implement simpler absentee voting? If so, that could help dems. When is the run off?

@DaveXA -

Biden has a 3 million vote lead nationally and Ca still had 30% to count which will stretch that to four million. That is a big margin in my book.

Nebaghead said:

It will be more when California votes come in. Remember Hillary was losing the popular vote on election night. It was the week after where California votes came in. There is almost 6 million outstanding votes in California. Biden will pad his lead 2-3 million because of California.

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Yeah, I thought California votes were in that number. Thanks for pointing that out.

CoolBrees said:

@DaveXA -

Biden has a 3 million vote lead nationally and Ca still had 30% to count which will stretch that to four million. That is a big margin in my book.

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Agreed.

Biden has MI by about 35k votes. Wayne County (Detroit) is still only 88% in. Small Berrien County is now at 95% counted and went 53/45 to Trump, as I expected. Kent county is the largest "light Red" county, and they're 84% counted, and only showing a 51/47 Trump lead.

The math is in favor of Biden winning Michigan by a larger margin than Wisconsin. We'll see, but a good sign for Biden.

zztop said:

people said this after 2016 too. After that shirtshow, I tossed out anything under +5 pts for Biden. I figured anything 5 or under would be 50/50 because of how things went last time. I was hoping I was wrong, but some of these states should never have been this close. It's like trump said back then, he could shoot someone on 5th ave and people would still vote for him (paraphrased)

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Some state polls were accurate, but pollsters still have a lot of work to do in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Minnesota, which all should've been easy wins. Most polls elsewhere in the country seem to be accurate. There is something different about those states.