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    To get our minds off of the virus, debates and campaign theatrics for a moment, I thought it might be an interesting exercise to post our predictions of the final Electoral College margin. Of course, any prediction made would be a moment-in-time snapshot of what we think will happen given the current circumstances. Any number of factors could influence the vote over the final month of the campaign.

    There are sites that can help you arrive at your prediction. Real Clear Politics and 538 have polling data that can help you come up with a number. I use RCP mostly because they have a good interactive national map that's easy to use and they don't include polls conducted by companies like SurveyMonkey. They do, however include partisan polling, like Trafalgar and Change Research.

    My prediction started with looking at a best case scenario for a Trump reelection. I started by putting all of the states shown to lean in one direction in that camp. RCP shows states like Indiana and Missouri leaning Trump and Oregon and Virginia leaning Biden when those states and others like them are certainly going to end up in those columns. That leaves 11 "battleground" states (and two one-vote congressional districts) that theoretically could go either way and gives a picture of a 226-125 Biden lead before assigning a winner in those states. In looking at Trump's best case scenario, I gave him every state in which he is marginally ahead and those he is behind by less less than five points, as well as the two congressional districts. That would provide Biden with a slim 278-260 win. To come out with a better scenario for Trump, you would need to assign one or more of Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin or New Hampshire to Trump and he is trailing in all of those states by more than five points.

    However, I don't believe that Trump will achieve his best case numbers and Biden could win several more states, like Arizona, Ohio, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina, Georgia and Texas. I still think Trump will likely keep Texas, Iowa and Georgia, so my prediction as of today is 353-185 in favor of Biden.

    If you choose to participate in this exercise, you are welcome to give different predictions over the course of the next month. I intend to post a final prediction on Nov. 2/3 and may even post a weekly prediction, depending on the level of participation.
     
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    Here's a logical explanation on why 2020 is different than 2016.



    But barring the dumbest postmodernists being completely correct that science, math and evidence are social constructs, Biden is going to win.

    that was unnecessary, Kendall
     
    I hear you. And I've been refreshing 538 like mad.

    But I just don't see it...or, rather, can't bring myself to believe it.

    I'm in that boat as well. After 2016, won't really believe it until I see it. I know this is a different year, different election. But people are weird. I suspect a lot of Trump voters are going to show up on 11/3. Whether it makes a difference...I don't know.
     
    So I read rcp and the Arizona polls and the anxiety intensifies and then I see this



    and....

    It has the opposite Of the intended effect, Nate!
     
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    So I read rcp and the Arizona polls and the anxiety intensifies and then I see this



    and....

    It has the opposite Of the intended effect, Nate!


    So the anxiety level back up is good right? It's like a double reverse effect. :hihi:

    Ultimately, we can't control how people vote. We can try and convince them, but once they sit down with a ballot, they have to make their own choices. We'll see what that is come Tuesday. I'm not convinced of much of anything at this point. We'll see.
     
    So the anxiety level back up is good right? It's like a double reverse effect. :hihi:

    Ultimately, we can't control how people vote. We can try and convince them, but once they sit down with a ballot, they have to make their own choices. We'll see what that is come Tuesday. I'm not convinced of much of anything at this point. We'll see.

    I'm totally preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.
     
    I never felt like Biden would take Florida and the latest polling seems to agree. I really hope he can pull it out Tuesday night and make for a short evening. But yea....
     
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    This is Trump winning every state Biden is less than +4 on RCP. I’m surprised by how few mail in votes have been rejected. Most states look to be at a 0.1%. A map that has Biden winning every state he is +2 would turn only NC blue. Polling in AZ may be skewed by a couple of partisan polls that just dropped especially since Kelly is +4.

    Pennsylvania may be FL 2000 with a late call, recounts, and separated ballots waiting on a SC ruling. Biden winning AZ and NC negates this potential mess. Biden at 282 or above with NC and/or AZ seems like the most likely outcome with a high total of 326.
     
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    This is Trump winning every state Biden is less than +4 on RCP. I’m surprised by how few mail in votes have been rejected. Most states look to be at a 0.1%. A map that has Biden winning every state he is +2 would turn only NC blue. Polling in AZ may be skewed by a couple of partisan polls that just dropped especially since Kelly is +4.

    Pennsylvania may be FL 2000 with a late call, recounts, and separated ballots waiting on a SC ruling. Biden winning AZ and NC negates this potential mess. Biden at 282 or above with NC and/or AZ seems like the most likely outcome with a high total of 326.

    If that map flips PA, it would be a 269-269 tie. :covri:

    I think PA is what's gonna make or break the election. I guess it's not too surprising it's got the highest potential to be 2000 redeux.

    Actually, nevermind. I was looking at Virginia's 13 delegates instead of Pennsylvania's 20. No tie in that scenario, but still PA is the difference in who wins. Winner of PA will take this election imo.

    Would have been fun if Virginia was that state. But this state ain't voting Trump.
     
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    I will read this article by Nate Silver about 100 more times by Tuesday night.

    If Trump wins I don’t think my sobriety can stand it.

     
    I know these are national, but look at the cross tabs.



     
    I will read this article by Nate Silver about 100 more times by Tuesday night.

    If Trump wins I don’t think my sobriety can stand it.


    Yeah, I read that. It's an interesting take. He ultimately says Trump winning is still plausible even if not likely. So...yeah, I feel like a Saints fan dreading being a heavy favorite vs a random crappy team. Playing down to the competition comes to mind. :covri:
     
    I have the added pain and suffering of being a Boilermaker. Purdue is the greatest in the known universe of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Falcons excluded of course. They just suck
     

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