All things political. Coronavirus Edition. (18 Viewers)

MT15 said:

Here’s their statement. Looks like they have been following protocols and using testing in a proper way, which is how they (hopefully) caught this early.

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Unlike the current administration, who tried to hide shirt from the public while infecting others.

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McConnell is breaking from the WH saying that they're sticking with the $500 Billion proposal, because that's all Republicans think we need.

this is going to get ugly.

It shouldn't have come to this, but I'm happy Christie is speaking out and warning others to take this thing seriously.

Now to the countdown for the tweet calling him weak...

GrandAdmiral said:

It shouldn't have come to this, but I'm happy Christie is speaking out and warning others to take this thing seriously.

Now to the countdown for the tweet calling him weak...

Christie reveals he spent 7 days in ICU and admits he was ‘wrong’ to not wear a mask | CNN Politics

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie revealed Thursday he spent seven days in an intensive care unit before recovering from Covid-19, and implored Americans to wear masks and take the pandemic “very seriously.”

www.cnn.com

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I'm actually surprised he survived. Hope he's out of the woods.

Taurus said:

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Two problems with the chart. First, the COVID-19 number needs to be multiplied something like 13 times. Second, the COVID-19 bar needs to be lowered to like 1/4 as high as it is because we know it doesn't affect anyone and is going away.

superchuck500 said:

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I think the stuff that will come out after he loses () will make everything we’ve been hearing about seem like small potatoes.

DaveXA said:

I'm actually surprised he survived. Hope he's out of the woods.

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we have a better understanding of what to give and in what order to obtain the best possible fight against.

Unfortunately, to arrive at that protocol, is trial and error.

Chris Christie can thank the 220,000 plus for their sacrifice.

efil4 said:

we have a better understanding of what to give and in what order to obtain the best possible fight against.

Unfortunately, to arrive at that protocol, is trial and error.

Chris Christie can thank the 220,000 plus for their sacrifice.

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This is undoubtedly true, and yet we still have 700-1000 people dying every day. It’s just awful.

Pfizer says third week of November for results. Could be longer as they have begun to include teenagers and FDA requires 2 months of research. Moderna is end of November but I don’t trust them farther than I can throw them.

Eli Lilly has paused their antibody trial due to safety concerns.

With J&J pausing I am getting less and less optimistic about a viable vaccine at all unfortunately.

CoolBrees said:

Pfizer says third week of November for results. Could be longer as they have begun to include teenagers and FDA requires 2 months of research. Moderna is end of November but I don’t trust them farther than I can throw them.

Eli Lilly has paused their antibody trial due to safety concerns.

With J&J pausing I am getting less and less optimistic about a viable vaccine at all unfortunately.

Pfizer delivers final blow to Trump's hope for preelection vaccine

There won’t be a coronavirus vaccine ready before Election Day, despite President Donald Trump’s repeated promises and vaccine makers’ breakneck speed.

www.politico.com

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It was never realistic. He was just saying the first thing that came to his head, as always.

Saint by the Bay said:

It was never realistic. He was just saying the first thing that came to his head, as always.

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its not that. Its his upbringing of "positive thinking"

Norman Vincent Peale. Look this up. Trump learned a ton from this guy.

@Saint by the Bay -

I agree. He talks out his arse for whatever he perceives as the benefit to him.

I am beginning to become skeptical altogether. The fastest we have ever produced a vaccine is 4 years. Our history with coronavirus vaccines is awful.

With all of the stoppages and hedging I am starting to believe that we won’t get a viable vaccine at all.

efil4 said:

we have a better understanding of what to give and in what order to obtain the best possible fight against.

Unfortunately, to arrive at that protocol, is trial and error.

Chris Christie can thank the 220,000 plus for their sacrifice.

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The treatment he got is not the same treatment those 220,000 got, nor the treatment the overwhelming majority of those who will need ICUs will get..

SystemShock said:

The treatment he got is not the same treatment those 220,000 got, nor the treatment the overwhelming majority of those who will need ICUs will get..

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without a doubt - which is why i said Christie should thank all those before him.

CoolBrees said:

@Saint by the Bay -

I agree. He talks out his arse for whatever he perceives as the benefit to him.

I am beginning to become skeptical altogether. The fastest we have ever produced a vaccine is 4 years. Our history with coronavirus vaccines is awful.

With all of the stoppages and hedging I am starting to believe that we won’t get a viable vaccine at all.

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The fact is we don't know what we'll get. The statements from the companies will always tend to present the rosiest and most optimistic view of the future possible, which all too frequently will bear little to no resemblance to the reality that eventually emerges (sadly; if they did, we'd have cured cancer, all other disease, and be living forever by now).

So I think it's fair enough to be skeptical. Conversely, though, humanity has never thrown this much effort in this space of time at a vaccine. Our historical success rate isn't great, but building off what we've previously learnt and with the amount of effort being directed at it, you'd think something of merit would come from it.

Realistically, I just can't gauge the prospects of whether a successful vaccine will emerge, or when. I'm not sure anyone can, until it's done. This is one of those things where perhaps the sane thing is to not have a belief at all about it. Just have to wait and see.