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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​


    WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election


    I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

    This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?
     
    Did you want the Democrats to indict him? They arent a justice dept arm.
    I’m saying it (DC) operates like a college fraternity. You don’t succeed by ratting on your fellow party brothers and sisters. So they ( D’s and R’s) play from the same playbook. Circle the wagons, delay, stonewall, deflect, run out the clock. Occasionally you get someone like Menendez who crosses the line and gets caught and there is no denying it is what it is. Then you formally kick him out and act like you’ve “done” courageous and ethical.

    The ONLY reason Biden was sent to the locker room was because it became painfully obvious he wasn’t up to the job and the ELECTORATE said enough. When it became evident the electorate wasn’t buying all the gaslighting, then and only then, did the party act. Otherwise, he would have been the candidate. Incapacitated or Not. And the establishment Dems would be defending him to this day.
     
    And the establishment Dems would be defending him to this day.
    This is rewriting history. As I recall some of the party elders were out in front of the electorate. Biden was forced out, to his shame, by the party. The electorate re-nominated him, did they not?
     
    I’m saying it (DC) operates like a college fraternity. You don’t succeed by ratting on your fellow party brothers and sisters. So they ( D’s and R’s) play from the same playbook. Circle the wagons, delay, stonewall, deflect, run out the clock. Occasionally you get someone like Menendez who crosses the line and gets caught and there is no denying it is what it is. Then you formally kick him out and act like you’ve “done” courageous and ethical.
    You may have a point if the crimes and misdeeds were remotely comparable

    And I've said exactly this before:

    When does discretion become dereliction of duty?

    There is a difference between a cop not pulling someone over for speeding, or letting them off with just a warning, and a cop shrugging their shoulders when someone commits a murder right in front of them

    You're like "both crimes, both times nothing done, same playbook! Both sides!"
     
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    He was indicted by a Democratic admin, was he not?

    The two sides are not equally corrupt no matter how many times you say they are. The GOP has completely lost the ability to hold Trump accountable for his crimes and misdemeanors. He commits them out in the open because he knows he’s untouchable. A purchased SCOTUS has seen to that.
    Are the two sides equally corrupt. I dunno. Opinions will vary.

    The question is whether either side is any more ethical or willing to stand up to its own members than the other. My opinion is no.

    No matter how many times you say otherwise.
     
    Are the two sides equally corrupt. I dunno. Opinions will vary.
    Jan 6 took away any shred of an idea that there’s room for various opinions on this. And that’s not even counting the pardons of folks who beat up police officers trying to defend the Capitol. This just isn’t subjective. Not really.
     
    This is rewriting history. As I recall some of the party elders were out in front of the electorate. Biden was forced out, to his shame, by the party. The electorate re-nominated him, did they not?
    Yeah the party “forced” him out after he already locked up the parties nomination and after the debate when it became apparent to just about everyone he was incapable of the job. Had it not been for the debate, had he stayed in his basement like last time, he would have been your nominee.

    The party didn’t force him out until after even they had to admit he wasn’t up to it. The polling did more to “forced” him out than anything. The party just went along with the inevitable.
     
    You may have a point if the crimes and misdeeds were remotely comparable

    And I've said exactly this before:

    When does discretion become dereliction of duty?

    There is a difference between a cop not pulling someone over for speeding, or letting them off with just a warning, and a cop shrugging their shoulders when someone commits a murder right in front of them

    You're like "both crimes, both times nothing done, same playbook! Both sides!"
    Yes there is a difference between felonies and misdemeanors. But that isn’t what I’m talking about. This is about self dealing and corruption of public servants at the highest levels of government. Is that a misdemeanor to you?

    sounds like the same playbook to me. Nothing to see here. Move along.
     
    Not a word about the victims and their families


    oh no he did.

    as he read from pages of notes



    and then that was it.

    The rest was basically a congratulations session- its all out there to see.

    It just underscores how detached he is from empathy and emotion.
     
    Yes there is a difference between felonies and misdemeanors. But that isn’t what I’m talking about. This is about self dealing and corruption of public servants at the highest levels of government. Is that a misdemeanor to you?

    sounds like the same playbook to me. Nothing to see here. Move along.
    If self-dealing was all Trump did you might have a sliver of a point.

    But no, the conspiracy to overthrow a free and fair election is what separates him from everyone else in DC. And going along with the lies and the conspiracy (for most of the party) is what distinguishes the GOP from the Dems.

    Anyone who isn’t biased would say the same.
     
    If self-dealing was all Trump did you might have a sliver of a point.

    But no, the conspiracy to overthrow a free and fair election is what separates him from everyone else in DC. And going along with the lies and the conspiracy (for most of the party) is what distinguishes the GOP from the Dems.

    Anyone who isn’t biased would say the same.
    So you expect the GOP to do something the Dems wouldn’t do if the shoe were on the other foot. That’s the point.

    And they wouldn’t. Hell, they would have run the entire race with Biden if it hadn’t been for his face plant during the debate in front of the nation. The only reason the ditched him was because they couldn’t gaslight the public after the debate. It wasn’t because the party found its balls.

    If you can’t see that then it’s you who are biased. You think there is some big difference between the parties. Nobody outside the party believes that. They watched the party lie and coverup for Biden. They watched the party lie about the border. They watched the party lie about the crime problem. So telling us that the party would behave any differently from the Republicans is just another lie.

    Party politics is like a college fraternity. You don’t get ahead with that crowd siding against your fellow brothers/sisters.

    So you can keep telling yourself that your party is different if it helps you. But outside your party, nobody is buying it.
     

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