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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.
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    WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

    I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

    This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?
     
    Sendai said:
    It’s the opinion of a lot of biographers as well.
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    No, it’s not. Provide one biographer who says LBJ was more corrupt than Trump.

    (Post Jan 6 to be fair. That was an attempt to steal a presidential election carried out on multiple fronts.)
     
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    MT15 said:
    No, it’s not. Provide one biographer who says LBJ was more corrupt than Trump.

    (Post Jan 6 to be fair. That was an attempt to steal a presidential election carried out on multiple fronts.)
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    Doubt you’ll find an LBJ biographer with that interest. I’ll say that trump and LBJ are on par with one another. Caro is 89 so unlikely he’ll take up the task.

    The piece I posted was certainly an indication of his character and corruption.

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    “The Dark Side of Lyndon Baines Johnson​


    Joachim Joesten​

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    First published in 1968 in the UK (the subject matter was too controversial for US publishers to touch) this is Joachim Joesten's treatise on the 36th president of the United States, Lyndon Baines Johnson, and his lifelong addiction for power at any cost. Joesten pulls back the layers of lies and deception to reveal LBJ as one of America's most corrupt and duplicitous politicians ever. Joesten carefully documents the little-known facts behind Johnson's involvement in scandals stretching back to his first stolen election in 1948, thru the Bobby Baker, Billy Sol Estes and Walter Jenkins affairs, and culminates with the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Included are LBJ's connection to mobsters, big Texas oil, political graft and corruption, blackmailing of FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover, and a disturbing number of murders committed by his henchmen for LBJ's personal gain. FROM THE The true nature of Lyndon B. Johnson has long been hidden from the public through the frenzied efforts of highly paid P.R. wizards and artificial image-builders. William Manchester came closer than most other people to seeing through the benign public relations mask of Lyndon Johnson, but one wouldn't know it from scanning the pages of 'The Death of a President'. If there are two persons in the world who have really come to know Johnson at close quarters, outside of his own family, they are Robert and Jacqueline Kennedy. Manchester interviewed both of them at length and they told him, without mincing their words, what they thought of That Man in the White House. But when Manchester, having faithfully recorded everything the Kennedys had told him, rushed into print with his story, years ahead of schedule, they both got panicky and practically forced him to 'revise' his story out of recognition. Edward J. Epstein, the author of Inquest, somehow managed to get hold of a copy of the original, unedited manuscript of the Manchester book, then entitled 'Death of a Lancer', and revealed in the July issue 1967 of Commentary, some of its contents. In his original draft, Manchester, it seems, made some very pungent remarks about Lyndon Johnson whom he described, among other things, as a 'chameleon who constantly changes loyalties'; 'a capon' and 'a crafty schemer who has a gaunt, hunted look about him'. He also pictured Johnson as 'a full-fledged hypomaniac' and 'the crafty seducer with six nimble hands who can persuade a woman to surrender her favors in the course of a long conversation confined to obscure words. No woman, even a lady, can discern his intentions until the critical moment'. By far the most interesting aspect of this matter, however, is Epstein's contention that Manchester's original theme, which gave unity to his book, was 'the notion that Johnson, the successor, was somehow responsible for the death-of his predecessor'. Several quotations from the original draft bear out this contention. At one point, the Lancer version states, 'The shattering fact of the assassination is that a Texas murder has made a Texan President'. At another, Kenneth O'Donnell, Kennedy's appointments secretary, is quoted as exclaiming 'They did it. I always knew they'd do it. You couldn't expect anything else from them. They finally made it'. Then Manchester 'He didn't specify who "they" were. It was unnecessary. They were Texans, Johnsonians'. But what is one to think of an author who allows his most important work not only to be castrated, but to be turned completely upside down by a publisher more committed to the dictates of expediency than to the search for historical truth?“

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    The Dark Side of Lyndon Baines Johnson

    First published in 1968 in the UK (the subject matter w…
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    The Envelopes, Please…​

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    OCTOBER 5, 1981 12:00 AM EDT
    Eight years after his death, Lyndon Johnson remains one of the most compelling, infuriating and least understood visionaries ever to fill the presidency. In the October issue of the Atlantic, Biographer Robert Caro details the darker side of L.B. J. He charges that Johnson was sent “envelopes stuffed with cash” while he was Vice President, and that as President, Johnson misused the power of his office to build a personal fortune. Johnson, writes Caro, “died with the American people still ignorant not only of the dimensions of his greed but of its intensity.”
    The charge that as Vice President Johnson was sent, through one of his aides, a $50,000 cash contribution is not new, even though the Atlantic issued a press release touting the disclosure. Gulf Oil Lobbyist Claude Wild Jr. testified in 1975 that he made such political donations. Caro says that his three-volume biography — the 30,000-word article was excerpted from the first volume, to be published next fall — will be extensively footnoted. His book The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York, which won the 1975 Pulitzer Prize for biography, is meticulously documented.

    Johnson began receiving large contributions from lobbyists representing the new energy-and-technology wealth of the Southwest while a Congressman, Caro writes, and he built his political power by distributing the money among other Democrats in return for their allegiance. When he became President in 1963, he put his assets into a “blind trust” and publicly relinquished control of them. Caro, however, asserts that Johnson had private telephone lines installed in the Oval Office linking him to attorneys administering the trust, and that he would spend several hours a day directing his business affairs.
    “Johnson wouldn’t take a bribe,” says George Reedy, his former press secretary.

    “But he would take money for campaign committees. There’s not a single major politician of the period who didn’t.” Large cash contributions to campaign funds were legal in those preWatergate days. Donald Thomas, one of Johnson’s former lawyers, concedes that the President kept in touch with his investments.
    Adds Reedy: “He had more telephones in his office than there are at Bell Labs.”

    The Envelopes, Please...

    Eight years after his death, Lyndon Johnson remains one of the most compelling, infuriating and least understood visionaries ever to fill the presidency. In the October issue of the Atlantic,...
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    TampaJoe said:
    Yep. Exactly right. You are catching on.
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    Both sides is the argument that people who are doing bad things make when people point out the bad things they are doing. The Democratic party is nowhere close to being as bad and as corrupt as Trump and his Republicans are.

    No Democrat has ever sent any angry mob to attack the Capitol to try to overthrow the will of the voters. Trump and his Republicans did just that. That's not the only thing they've done that makes them much worse than Democrats.
     
    LA 2 L.A. said:
    You support Trump, so of course you'll say that. You say anything to make Trump not seem as bad as Trump really is.
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    and using historical context from 80 plus years ago to do so. When Hershey bars were a nickel.

    yall keep entertaining that 74 yr old, so you get what you ask for at this point.

    pretty soon he gonna tell you to "git oFF mAH LaWN"
     
    efil4 said:
    and using historical context from 80 plus years ago to do so. When Hershey bars were a nickel.

    yall keep entertaining that 74 yr old, so you get what you ask for at this point.

    pretty soon he gonna tell you to "git oFF mAH LaWN"
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    I don't see it as entertaining them and there's very little chance their 74. Things they have said are strong indications that even their alleged age is fake.
     
    LA 2 L.A. said:
    Both sides is the argument that people who are doing bad things make when people point out the bad things they are doing. The Democratic party is nowhere close to being as bad and as corrupt as Trump and his Republicans are.

    No Democrat has ever sent any angry mob to attack the Capitol to try to overthrow the will of the voters. Trump and his Republicans did just that. That's not the only thing they've done that makes them much worse than Democrats.
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    Here is what is plainly obvious. You aren’t interested in corruption. You are obcessed with getting rid of Trump. That is all you want to talk about. Correct me if I am wrong.

    Any corruption short of Trump gets a pass. I have no confidence that you or any of your fellow party members will go after corruption in your party. None. It will be stonewalled, called a witch hunt, etc.

    That is exactly what I mean when I say that the underlying problem will remain long after Trump is gone. You are focused on treating the symptoms of the problem and not the problem itself. When the shoe is on the other foot, your party will circle the wagons just like the GOP.

    JMHO
     
    TampaJoe said:
    Any corruption short of Trump gets a pass. I have no confidence that you or any of your fellow party members will go after corruption in your party. None. It will be stonewalled, called a witch hunt, etc.
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    Wasn't Senator Menendez just sentenced to a decade in prison, literally for corruption?

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    Former Sen. Bob Menendez reports for 11-year prison sentence in Pennsylvania

    Former Sen. Bob Menendez, of New Jersey, was convicted last year on federal bribery charges.
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    TampaJoe said:
    After he was indicted by the Feds. Your party didn’t do a damn thing before that and he was corrupt for years.
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    He was indicted by a Democratic admin, was he not?

    The two sides are not equally corrupt no matter how many times you say they are. The GOP has completely lost the ability to hold Trump accountable for his crimes and misdemeanors. He commits them out in the open because he knows he’s untouchable. A purchased SCOTUS has seen to that.
     

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