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    Attorney General Merrick Garland has assigned the U.S. attorney in Chicago to review documents marked classified that were found at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in Washington, two sources with knowledge of the inquiry told CBS News. The roughly 10 documents are from President Biden's vice-presidential office at the center, the sources said. CBS News has learned the FBI is also involved in the U.S. attorney's inquiry.

    The material was identified by personal attorneys for Mr. Biden on Nov. 2, just before the midterm elections, Richard Sauber, special counsel to the president confirmed. The documents were discovered when Mr. Biden's personal attorneys "were packing files housed in a locked closet to prepare to vacate office space at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C.," Sauber said in a statement to CBS News. The documents were contained in a folder that was in a box with other unclassified papers, the sources said. The sources revealed neither what the documents contain nor their level of classification. A source familiar with the matter told CBS News the documents did not contain nuclear secrets.


    ...The White House statement said that it “is cooperating” with the department but did not explain why Mr. Biden’s team waited more than two months to announce the discovery of the documents, which came a week before the midterm congressional elections when the news would have been an explosive last-minute development.

    It also came shortly before Mr. Garland’s Nov. 18 appointment of Jack Smith as a special counsel to take over the criminal investigation into Mr. Trump’s failure to return a large number of classified documents that were sent to his Florida residence and club, Mar-a-Lago, when he left office — even after being subpoenaed.


    A government watchdog is demanding the US attorney probing Hunter Biden in Delaware investigate tens of millions in anonymous donations from China to the University of Pennsylvania, where an academic center is named for his father, President Biden.

    The Ivy League college raked in a total of $54.6 million from 2014 through June 2019 in donations from China, including $23.1 million in anonymous gifts starting in 2016, according to public records.

    Most of the anonymous donations came after the university announced in February 2017 that it would create the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement. Joe Biden, whose term as vice president had just ended, was to lead the center and was also named a professor at the university.

    The center, which is located in Washington, DC, opened its doors in February 2018. Antony Blinken, whom Biden named as secretary of state, briefly served as its managing director.

    The Ivy League university received $15.8 million in anonymous Chinese gifts that year, including one eye-popping $14.5 million donation in May 2018, records show.

     
    It's very clear there are different rules for Biden & Clinton vs Trump.

    Weren't we told that any classified documents that are unsecured is a security risk? What's even better is that those unsecured classified documents were at the same place that had recently received 54 million in questionable donations from China.
    Yes, but if you were honest with us, you would admit that intentionally taking and refusing to return classified documents is a far greater crime than inadvertently taking them. You would also admit that only one of those actions is worthy of prosecution. If Biden suddenly is found with many more documents and he refuses to return them, them you can honestly compare them.
     
    Any way you slice it, it's a bad look for Biden. I won't make excuses.
    Definitely...it's a political nightmare.

    What I heard yesterday was that it wasn't seen as a huge deal, and people discovering classified material where it shouldn't be isn't all that uncommon...but because of the Trump/Mar-A-Lago situation, the DOJ felt it needed to be reported.
     
    Yes, but if you were honest with us, you would admit that intentionally taking and refusing to return classified documents is a far greater crime than inadvertently taking them. You would also admit that only one of those actions is worthy of prosecution. If Biden suddenly is found with many more documents and he refuses to return them, them you can honestly compare them.


    How do you know Biden inadvertently took the classified documents? You don't. You are just speculating. I understand that's the current Democrat talking point.
     
    I don’t think you will find anyone who will equate finding less than a dozen documents locked securely in an office and immediately self-reporting and surrendering them by the next day amounts to “gross negligence”.

    Taking between 100-200 documents after being told not to take them, storing them in a locked closet in a beach club which is a public venue, ignoring requests to return them, instructing lawyers to lie about having returned them, ignoring a federal subpoena, and instructing staff to move the documents in an attempt to hide them from the government, etc. would probably constitute “gross negligence” though. Can you at least agree with that?
     


    How do you know Biden inadvertently took the classified documents? You don't. You are just speculating. I understand that's the current Democrat talking point.


    Most people think if Trump is charged with anything it will be obstruction.

    The line of demarcation has always been Trump's refusal to return the documents.

    This is not complex.
     
    Most people think if Trump is charged with anything it will be obstruction.

    The line of demarcation has always been Trump's refusal to return the documents.

    This is not complex.
    Why did Comey use intent for Clinton eventhough it's not part of the law?

    Clinton destroyed her server. How is thay not obstruction?
     
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    Why did Comey use intent for Clinton eventhough it's not part of the law?

    Clinton destroyed her server. How is thay not obstruction?
    She didn’t destroy anything without permission. Believe me, they would have loved to get her for obstruction. Trump has claimed she destroyed emails illegally, but that’s just not true.

    from WaPo at the time:

    “Clinton’s staff had requested the emails to be deleted months before the subpoena, according to the FBI’s August 2016 report. Moreover, there’s no evidence Clinton deleted the emails in anticipation of the subpoena, and FBI director James B. Comey has said his agency’s investigation found no evidence that any work-related emails were “intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them.””
     
    So, they (presumably Biden’s staff) are conducting a search of all documents and found another batch of classified documents. Don’t know where they found it. The DOJ needs to find out who moved them, when and why and make that public. The good thing is that Biden won’t lie or obstruct the investigation. I agree with this guy:

     
    WASHINGTON — Aides to President Joe Biden have discovered at least one additional batch of classified documents in a location separate from the Washington office he used after leaving the Obama administration, according to a person familiar with the matter.

    Since November, after the discovery of documents with classified markings in his former office, Biden aides have been searching for any additional classified materials that might be in other locations he used, said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to provide details about the ongoing inquiry...........


     
    Why did Comey use intent for Clinton eventhough it's not part of the law?

    Clinton destroyed her server. How is thay not obstruction?
    Well...according to the Cornell law school:

    Gross negligence is a lack of care that demonstrates reckless disregard for the safety or lives of others, which is so great it appears to be a conscious violation of other people's rights to safety. Gross negligence is a heightened degree of negligence representing an extreme departure from the ordinary standard of care. Falling between intent to do wrongful harm and ordinary negligence, gross negligence is defined as willful, wanton, and reckless conduct affecting the life or property or another.

    and

    The term willful refers to acts which are intentional, conscious, voluntary, and designed to achieve a particular result.

    So...if "gross negligence" is "willful, wanton, AND reckless conduct....and "willful" refers to "acts which are intentional," then intent is part of the law, even if it isn't spelled out specifically in that law.
     
    I haven’t seen this report attributed to CBS:


    The first question is easy to answer.
    "why did WH not disclose the discovery earlier?" Because that's how things work. If you discover classified material where it doesn't belong, you don't publicly announce it. You return the material to the proper authorities, and cooperate with their investigation.

    "why were they discovered in Nov. 2022?" Reporting is that they were closing the office, and were cataloging and storing the items there when they were found.

    "when did DOJ, Archives, Biden, WH first learn of discovery?" The archives and/or DOJ were notified immediately that evening, and retrieved the items the following morning.
     
    The first question is easy to answer.
    "why did WH not disclose the discovery earlier?" Because that's how things work. If you discover classified material where it doesn't belong, you don't publicly announce it. You return the material to the proper authorities, and cooperate with their investigation.

    "why were they discovered in Nov. 2022?" Reporting is that they were closing the office, and were cataloging and storing the items there when they were found.

    "when did DOJ, Archives, Biden, WH first learn of discovery?" The archives and/or DOJ were notified immediately that evening, and retrieved the items the following morning.
    Yes. That seems to be the way this happened. I meant I hadn’t seen a report on what was the timeline for these documents.
     


    How do you know Biden inadvertently took the classified documents? You don't. You are just speculating. I understand that's the current Democrat talking point.

    Off topic: why is it every time I see her post it’s always with a highlighter? Reminds me of when I was in high school highlighting everything and never ever coming back to read it again.
     
    I'm sorry. It's just hilarious to see you guys make all these different excuses for Biden especially compared to what yall said when Trump did it.
     
    The first question is easy to answer.
    "why did WH not disclose the discovery earlier?" Because that's how things work. If you discover classified material where it doesn't belong, you don't publicly announce it. You return the material to the proper authorities, and cooperate with their investigation.

    "why were they discovered in Nov. 2022?" Reporting is that they were closing the office, and were cataloging and storing the items there when they were found.

    "when did DOJ, Archives, Biden, WH first learn of discovery?" The archives and/or DOJ were notified immediately that evening, and retrieved the items the following morning.
    That's right. You wait until after the midterm elections to announce it.
     

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