What happens to the Republican Party now? (8 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[MT15]

I've always known it would happen.
Biden is done.... Check out (above) what I posted last Jan. 8th.

Who cares right now whether Biden runs or he doesn’t? It’s not relevant at this point in time. What is more relevant right now is the midterms - and Democrats‘ chances are looking up. They have a decent chance of keeping both the House and the Senate - just thanks to Rs putting up more and more extreme and unqualified candidates, and their promises to get even more extreme about women’s and LBGTQ rights if they take control of Congress.

The US economy is doing pretty well when you compare us to Europe. I read some actual economists on Twitter and they say the economy is actually doing much better than people think it is. Inflation and supply issues are global, as are high fuel prices. America is doing better than much of the rest of the world on these issues right now. Just today I saw where the dollar is very strong against the Euro. There is a balancing act the Fed will have to complete- they have to squash inflation without throwing us into a recession, but all of this is largely outside of Biden’s control.

Biden’s foreign policy work has been very good. Of course I’m disappointed that he couldn’t get some of his policies through the Senate, but if Dems can add one or two seats and hold the House, the picture for 2024 could be very different in a year or so.

I suspect you are reading only what confirms your own biases. That’s the impression I get anyway.

 

[coldseat]

To my point earlier. Most Hispanics, just like everybody else, are disenchanted/unhappy by everything. Like most people, they put part of that blame on Democrats, because they're in power. Many have just checked out. Most know that Republicans won't make anything better. Those of us that pay attention, know that they will make things much worse than they currently are. For a lot of people, it's the classic lose/lose situation. If you're well versed in the last 40 years of this countries politics, you know this is just the collective culmination of Republican/conservative power politics and its constant attacks/degradation of our government and culture. So here we are...

But the rise of Flores, De La Cruz and Garcia deserves to be seen in context. While these Latinas may be having a moment in the spotlight, they hold views outside the Latino mainstream. Their current prominence is more of a publicity coup for the GOP than an authentic reflection of Latino voters.

Like most other Republicans, these Latinas hold conservative positions on abortion, gun control and immigration.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/01/opinions/title-42-biden-good-riddance-reyes/index.html
That's just not where most Latinos are these days. The Pew Research Center reports that 60% of Hispanic adults say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while a June Quinnipiac University survey found that 58% of Hispanics favor stricter gun laws. Pew notes that an overwhelming majority of Latinos favor major fixes in the US immigration system. The fact that fresh faces such as Garcia are decrying "complete chaos" at the border doesn't obscure that this is simply recycled rhetoric from former President Donald Trump.

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This "Texas trio" of Latinas has played into the media narrative that Latinos are abandoning the Democratic Party for the GOP. But in January, Gallup found there were "few signs so far of significant shift among Hispanic Americans away from their traditional Democratic political identity."

Consider that Flores won her congressional seat in an election where 29,000 people voted. The Texas Observer reported that this turnout amounted to about 7% of eligible voters casting a ballot. That's hardly a "red wave." In November, Flores will face a popular incumbent congressman in a newly drawn district that favors Democrats, so her time in the House of Representatives might only be six months. Her election is more of an outlier than a symbol of a national trend.
It is troubling that Flores downplays the importance of the January 6 committee hearings, telling The New York Times, "My district doesn't care about that." As a member of Congress, is it not her duty to care about the Capitol insurrection?
Certainly, Democrats need to invest more in Latino communities. Some Latinos say that they feel Democrats take them for granted, a sentiment that provides an opening for the GOP in areas such as the Rio Grande Valley.

Yet Latino support for Democrats remains broad and strong. In the 2020 presidential election, Latinos went for Biden over Trump 59% to 38%. Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris still top Trump and former Vice President Mike Pence in Latino favorability ratings -- and that's according to a Fox News poll.
It is welcome news when more Latinos of any political affiliation run for office. But our country needs Latinos who reflect their communities, reject conspiracy theories and respect democracy. The last thing we need is a Latina Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Opinion: These GOP Latina candidates are not the 'real deal'

The GOP is touting three Latina candidates from Texas: Mayra Flores, Monica De La Cruz and Cassy Garcia. They hold conservative positions on abortion, gun control and immigration, writes Raul Reyes. That's just not where most Latinos are, he says.

www.cnn.com

 

[coldseat]

This doesn’t help the Democrats problem with gaining the Hispanic vote.



The only thing that could have made this worse is if she said “The LatinX community is as unique as tacos.”

Where's the offense? Other than pronouncing bodegas incorrectly, what was bad or cringe worthy about that? If you've every been here in San Antonio, you know there's a ton of different and unique breakfast tacos. That's why the people in the video (in San Antonio) appreciated the comment, laughed and applauded.

 

[Taurus]

Which party are we talking about here, because this is the meme showing the two Spider-Man’s pointing at each other.

The GOP has done things for the religious-right Hispanic population. See: SCOTUS
Given the slightest shred of power, the GOP deletes regulations like Peewee Herman deletes his browser history.
The problem with the Republicans is that they tend to do exactly what they say they'll do.
Dems are just the opposite.

 

[zztop]

despite the headline,

Trump’s GOP Grip Slips With 46% in Poll Seeking New 2024 Nominee

Nearly half of Republican voters say they would cast a ballot for someone other than former President Donald Trump in the 2024 election, a sign of a tough GOP primary contest should he decide to run for his old job following his extraordinary attempt to overturn his loss in 2020.

www.bloomberg.com

Trump remains the leading candidate in a hypothetical race against five other possible GOP opponents in a New York Times/Siena College poll, with 49% of primary voters saying they would support him. But 46% say they would vote for one of the others. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis emerged as the top rival, with 25% support, the only other one to reach double digits.

 

[Booker]

That’s not incredibly surprising. Los Latinos are based in Catholic values from birth, their leaning towards the party of family values (we can all laugh about that now) isn’t surprising. Is it?

I've always thought it was really short sighted (or perhaps just blatantly racist?), to think that immigrants from south of the border, once achieving citizenship, would automatically vote for Democrats. As if conservative values couldn't possibly appeal to immigrants, who, as you point out, are often more religious and socially conservative than our general population.

 

[el caliente]

Republicans representing "family values", lol. That's really funny.

I'm not saying your analysis isn't partly correct, it's just the same bs as always. And it has a lot to do with media and gaslighting. Same thing goes for Hispanics turning to Republicans for safety and security. Ask those families in Uvalde, Texas how safe and secure they feel with all of their Republican representation and conservative values. All those guns on the street definitely make things safer and more secure. Thanks Republicans!!!

I don’t believe the Republican Party is the party of “family values” (Hence the reason I said we can laugh about), but it is perceived to be such by many Latinos who moved to the states having grown up Catholic. It is what it is.

Well, neither of the ladies that work for me are Catholic but they both have strong ties to their church.

This was my abuela. She was raised Catholic, but never went to mass once she got to the States. Whenever JWs would come to the door she would tell them, “Soy catolica.” Lol. I miss her a lot.

Where's the offense? Other than pronouncing bodegas incorrectly, what was bad or cringe worthy about that? If you've every been here in San Antonio, you know there's a ton of different and unique breakfast tacos. That's why the people in the video (in San Antonio) appreciated the comment, laughed and applauded.

I have been to San Antonio several times. We have family in the hill country. Ask a Cuban or an Argentine if tacos define them. There is a difference between Mexicans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, etc, etc., etc. to lump everyone in as a “taco” is comically cringe worthy…even in San Antonio.

 

[coldseat]

I have been to San Antonio several times. We have family in the hill country. Ask a Cuban or an Argentine if tacos define them. There is a difference between Mexicans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, etc, etc., etc. to lump everyone in as a “taco” is comically cringe worthy…even in San Antonio.

Did you listen to her whole quote? I'm going to assume you didn't, because your response is really off the mark. She gave 3 general examples of Latino diversity. One Puerto Rican (Bronx), one Cuban, and one Mexican. The last one, the Mexican one, was breakfast tacos and specific to where she was giving the speech at, San Antonio. Basically she said the Latino community is as diverse as "these things" are within "these communities".

Seriously, I'm Puerto Rican. If any Latino/Hispanic takes offense to that, they're either Republican or looking to get offended.

But you go ahead and do you.

 

[Taurus]

I've always thought it was really short sighted (or perhaps just blatantly racist?), to think that immigrants from south of the border, once achieving citizenship, would automatically vote for Democrats. As if conservative values couldn't possibly appeal to immigrants, who, as you point out, are often more religious and socially conservative than our general population.

Dems just figured that with the GOP deliberately insulting them, they wouldn't have to work that hard to win Latino voters.

 

[MT15]

Did you listen to her whole quote? I'm going to assume you didn't, because your response is really of the mark. She gave 3 general examples of Latino diversity. One Puerto Rican (Bronx), one Cuban, and one Mexican. The last one, the Mexican one, was breakfast tacos and specific to where she was giving the speech at, San Antonio.

Seriously, I'm Puerto Rican. If any Latino/Hispanic takes offense to that, they're either Republican or looking to get offended.

But you go ahead and do you.

This is what happens when we listen to short excerpts, we don’t get the context. It happens to everyone.

 

[el caliente]

Did you listen to her whole quote? I'm going to assume you didn't, because your response is really off the mark. She gave 3 general examples of Latino diversity. One Puerto Rican (Bronx), one Cuban, and one Mexican. The last one, the Mexican one, was breakfast tacos and specific to where she was giving the speech at, San Antonio. Basically she said the Latino community is as diverse as "these things" are within "these communities".

Seriously, I'm Puerto Rican. If any Latino/Hispanic takes offense to that, they're either Republican or looking to get offended.

But you go ahead and do you.

I did listen to more than just the clip, and it was still comically cringe worthy.

I’m not offended, I’m just embarrassed for her. This is just like watching Scott’s Tots, but it’s the wife of the VP (and not Michael Scott) making me want to hide my face in embarrassment.

 

[el caliente]

Dems just figured that with the GOP deliberately insulting them, they wouldn't have to work that hard to win Latino voters.

That’s how it always works when you play down to your opponent. The Saints end up losing to, or winning close games against lessor teams all the time. Politics is the same (teams, scores, etc.)

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Did you listen to her whole quote? I'm going to assume you didn't, because your response is really off the mark. She gave 3 general examples of Latino diversity. One Puerto Rican (Bronx), one Cuban, and one Mexican. The last one, the Mexican one, was breakfast tacos and specific to where she was giving the speech at, San Antonio. Basically she said the Latino community is as diverse as "these things" are within "these communities".

Seriously, I'm Puerto Rican. If any Latino/Hispanic takes offense to that, they're either Republican or looking to get offended.

But you go ahead and do you.

I completely agree. I heard something about the 1st lady saying something "inappropriate", then I listened to it and thought, huh? What's wrong with that?

 

[Eeyore]

Man pleads guilty to fraud after lighting his camper on fire, defacing own garage to appear targeted due to Trump flag

A Brooklyn Center man pleaded guilty Tuesday to federal wild fraud charge after he lit his own camper on fire to make it look like a politically-motivated crime, and then allegedly filed several fraudulent insurance claims.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Eeyore]

I'm sure this has probably been brought up in here before but I bring it up because it makes me very nervous.




I'm 78 and a disabled veteran consequently I need help now and then doing some day-to-day chores. I have two Hispanic women, both in their mid 50s, both married, that help me after they're through with their daily jobs. Both are from Guatemala originally and both have been working for me for a long time.

To the point. If you come from a place like Guatemala it's very easy to understand why you might lean a little right. You came here to escape a lack of law and order (and a job), the right represents that, law and order, here, rightly or wrongly, and Hispanics know that. The finer points of just how dangerous someone like Trump is escapes them a bit because they don't understand what this republic really is and what it takes to stay a united republic.

I was dumb enough to think that Trump throwing paper towels in Puerto Rico, combined with the lack of aid after the hurricane would be a big enough clue that they should avoid his ilk. I guess that some people really like paper towels.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Man pleads guilty to fraud after lighting his camper on fire, defacing own garage to appear targeted due to Trump flag

A Brooklyn Center man pleaded guilty Tuesday to federal wild fraud charge after he lit his own camper on fire to make it look like a politically-motivated crime, and then allegedly filed several fraudulent insurance claims.

www.cbsnews.com

Idiot

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

I was dumb enough to think that Trump throwing paper towels in Puerto Rico, combined with the lack of aid after the hurricane would be a big enough clue that they should avoid his ilk. I guess that some people really like paper towels.

 

[coldseat]

I was dumb enough to think that Trump throwing paper towels in Puerto Rico, combined with the lack of aid after the hurricane would be a big enough clue that they should avoid his ilk. I guess that some people really like paper towels.

It was for my sister and parents. That's when they started hating Trump like I did.