What happens to the Republican Party now? (6 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[MT15]

Decline? From where? From what alleged height?

When I think of it, I think of the principled members of the GOP who finally stood up to Nixon. I think of McCain stopping a woman who was smearing Obama and telling her Obama is a good man. Even though she was his supporter, he wouldn’t let her spread lies about Obama.

We don’t have that kind of leadership in the Senate now. And you can say we barely had it back then, but we did have it.

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Saturday PBS Newshour

“Ali Rogin:

Good evening. I'm Ali Rogin. John Yang is away. Tonight shock waves in Washington after Georgia Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene, once one of President Trump's staunchest defenders, said she's resigning from Congress in January before her term is up.

Greene made the surprise announcement in a video she posted on X Friday night, marking a dramatic break with President Donald Trump. It came after a public falling out with him in recent months as Greene criticized the president on foreign policy, health care and his stance on releasing files relating to the Jeffrey Epstein case.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R) Georgia: Standing up for American women who were raped at 14 years old, trafficked and used by rich, powerful men should not result in me being called a traitor and threatened by the president of the United States whom I fought for.

Ali Rogin:

Trump fired back on Truth Social today, once again calling Greene a traitor who went bad.

Tia Mitchell is the Washington bureau chief for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. She's covered Greene since her first campaign. Thank you so much for joining me. Marjorie Taylor Greene, up until this falling out, was one of President Trump's staunchest defenders. To what do you attribute her abrupt resignation?

Tia Mitchell, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

Well, I think it's been building. There has been a split in the Republican Party, particularly among MAGA far-right Republican White House bid his second administration because they felt that he wasn't necessarily living up to some of his campaign promises.

Of course, Marjorie Taylor Greene started speaking out about it earlier this summer on things like Israel and the war with Gaza and other foreign policy some legislation that the White House wanted Congress to pass that she felt didn't adhere to the America First MAGA brand.

But things really came to a head when it came to releasing the Epstein files. Marjorie Taylor Greene was one of the four Republicans who, along with Democrats, forced to vote on the Epstein files over Trump's objections initially. And that was really what sent Trump over the edge. He split with her. He un endorsed her, was very critical of her in personal terms. And this happened about a week ago.

And Marjorie Taylor Greene started doing some soul searching because she really came to Congress to work alongside Trump. She said she was — that was part of her agenda was to help him carry out his. And I think once she came to the conclusion that, you know, she couldn't work with Trump, they're not on the same side, she kind of lost interest in remaining a member of Congress.

Ali Rogin:

President Trump today told reporters that she resigned because he withdrew his support. And he said that if she had run for reelection, she would have lost. Is that an accurate interpretation of President Trump's influence over Republican candidates in this case, do you think?

Tia Mitchell:

Well, yes and no. I feel that Marjorie Taylor Greene would have likely faced what Thomas Massie has faced, which means that Trump would recruit people to challenge her in a primary. There would be a lot of money spent, and it would be a bitter primary campaign.

But like Thomas Massie, I still think Marjorie Taylor Greene would be considered the front runner and was likely to win reelection. So the calculation from Marjorie Taylor Greene was, do I want to have this tough reelection bid and be drag in to a nasty primary battle, have Donald Trump really trying to turn my constituents against me, and I could come out victorious, enter Congress for another term, and then Trump is going to expect me to defend him and defend his policies. I don't want to stand up for that.

Ali Rogin:

She's also cited the fact that she's been getting calls from security firms. Given the amount of vitriol that she has been on the receiving end of, she's a public figure. Certainly she's no stranger to criticism.

But do you think also the rhetoric against her and the threats she may have faced could have also played a role here in this decision?

Tia Mitchell:

I do. I think, again, if you listen to the video she posted, she basically said she didn't feel like the recent vitriol and threats, which came because Trump's criticism, that to her, hurt even more because it was from, again, someone that wasn't just someone she considered a friend and an ally.

So if he's turned on me and. And he's, you know, leading to all this criticism and vitriol and threats, it's not worth it to me. In my family, we know that part of her core values is being a mom, putting family first. And so I think for her, she began to wonder, why am I enduring all of this?

Ali Rogin:

What do you think is going to be next for her?

Tia Mitchell:

So, you know, there's a lot of speculation. She previously ruled out running for Senate or governor in Georgia in 2026. There's speculation that she might run for president in 2028. But as I talk to people close to her, I get the sense that, at least in the short term, her thinking is she really wants to fade back into being kind of a regular citizen.

Now, could that change with time? I think that's a possibility, that maybe if she gives herself a few months to go, you know, into private life, regroup, see what types offers come her way, you know, there's a lot of speculation because she, you know, she has a massive platform on social media.

She has a massive platform, you know, she's recognized now with her speaking out in favor of the healthcare issues and lowering healthcare costs during the government shutdown, even more of a platform. So I think there are opportunities that could be awaiting her.

Ali Rogin:

Tia Mitchell with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, thank you so much.

Tia Mitchell:

Thank you.”

What to know about Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s resignation and falling out with Trump

The announcement by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., that she’ll resign from Congress in January has sent shockwaves through Washington. It marks a dramatic break with Trump after a public falling out with him in recent months, as Greene criticized the president on foreign policy, health care...

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i still think that mtg has seen the light and will most likley bring back the tea party

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Waiting to hear from folks why this isn’t fascist.

imagine the meltdowns from the left and the celebrations from the right

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Taylor Greene’s surprise departure from Congress could prove a watershed moment, prompting other House Republicans to follow in the Georgia firebrand’s footsteps, according to a new report.

After Greene announced on Friday that she will step down in early January, several GOP lawmakers told Punchbowl News that they, too, are considering retiring before their terms end.

“More explosive early resignations are coming,” one unnamed senior House Republican told the outlet. “It’s a tinder box. Morale has never been lower.”

According to the congressperson, members are eyeing the exits because of ongoing tensions with the White House, which House Speaker Mike Johnson has done nothing to remedy

“This entire White House team has treated ALL members like garbage,” the lawmaker said. “And Mike Johnson has let it happen because he wanted it to happen. That is the sentiment of nearly all — appropriators, authorizers, hawks, doves, rank and file.”………..

More Republican reps are considering following MTG out the door, report says

‘More explosive early resignations are coming,’ one unnamed senior House Republican said.

www.independent.co.uk

have those trumpers seen the light and gonna covert back to moderate republicans like they probley used to be during before donnie j trump took over and changed the republican party era

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Guess this could have gone in the celebrity thread too
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Offer Vince Shlomi, an infomercial pitchman known to millions as the “ShamWow Guy” for his energetic promotion of highly absorbent dish cloths, has announced he is running for Congress as a Republican in Texas on a one-man mission to “destroy wokeism.”

Shlomi, 61, is hoping to unseat incumbent GOP Rep. John Carter, 84, who is seeking re-election in the Lone Star state’s 31st congressional district, which takes in the northern suburbs of Austin, Temple, and Fort Hood.………

Speaking to Fox News Digital on Sunday, the entrepreneur said he was motivated to run in memory of Charlie Kirk, the Turning Point USA founder who was assassinated on a college campus in Utah in September, whom he described as the original “woke buster”.

Shlomi, who was born in Israel but raised in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn, also said that a desire to end “political infighting in the country” had inspired his run for elected office, declaring that he hoped to win in order to “make America happy.”………

‘ShamWow Guy’ launches anti-woke congressional campaign

Offer Vince Shlomi, known for high-energy sales pitches on late-night TV, running in Texas in memory of Charlie Kirk and to ‘make America happy’, he says

www.independent.co.uk

whats next the j6 chewy going into politics

 

[bird]

have those trumpers seen the light and gonna covert back to moderate republicans like they probley used to be during before donnie j trump took over and changed the republican party era

Moderate Republicans have vanished. The extinction of them started with the election of Reagan followed by the election of Newt Gingrich and then the astroturfing which created the Tea Party. The election of Trump killed them.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Perhaps. I think that there is a large number of true believers that will attempt to keep pushing the agenda. That being said there really isn’t at this point anyone who can be what Trump is to the party. Rubio, Cruz, Vance all have image problems.

I would be amazed if a Republican won the White House in 2028....yet who will be the Dem's candidate?

 

[efil4]

I would be amazed if a Republican won the White House in 2028....yet who will be the Dem's candidate?

it could be a cardboard cutout for all i care.

When this administration is done, the damage done will seem irreparable. It very well may be.

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Moderate Republicans have vanished. The extinction of them started with the election of Reagan followed by the election of Newt Gingrich and then the astroturfing which created the Tea Party. The election of Trump killed them.

i think it was 2016 when the trumpaltine era began and the term moderate republicans official vanished because most of the republicans were suduced by the dark side of the force and they were converted to trumpers which officially started the galactic trumpire and as there grow the higher ups were the trumpaltines siths and darths while the army navy and seals were his storm troopers

 

[camdudetenger2018]

I would be amazed if a Republican won the White House in 2028....yet who will be the Dem's candidate?

i think most of us who are on this forums also wonder who the candidates for the dems will be

 

[bird]

i think it was 2016 when the trumpaltine era began and the term moderate republicans official vanished because most of the republicans were suduced by the dark side of the force and they were converted to trumpers which officially started the galactic trumpire and as there grow the higher ups were the trumpaltines siths and darths while the army navy and seals were his storm troopers

Look into Russell Kirk, Leo Strauss and William F. Buckley. They planted the seeds of modern “conservatism”. Kirk and, imo, Buckley were paranoid about social change. Note that they were productive just before and after Brown v Bd. of Ed.

Goldwater, while not as bad as what would come, was afraid as well.

Fear has been the lever of selling Republican programs for the past 57 years since Nixon.

 

[Lapaz]

I would be amazed if a Republican won the White House in 2028....yet who will be the Dem's candidate?

I like Newsome, but I'm sure there will be new people that will surprise us. If no one else better comes along, then I think he is a good candidate.