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    This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

    We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

    There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



     
    MT15 said:
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    The things these people will convince themselves to feel okay about. The version of Jesus they worship is a false idol of their own making.

    Just as it is absurd that we look to men of the 1700s to guide us on present day gun violence, so much harm has been caused by clinging to the beliefs of people from thousands of years ago who had no advanced understanding of anything. Gods became the only explanation to fill the vast void of yet-to-be-acquired knowledge.
     
    I hope the Republican party does not elect Trump as it's nominee. There's so much better talent out there. Personally I'm a fan of Tim Scott although I'm not sure how well he will do in the primaries. But yes, I am sick and tired of hearing about Trump. He did nothing while president before and will do nothing if elected again. The man is the very definition of a narcissist who only cares about himself and does not have the best interest of the American people in mind. A Scott/Haley ticket would make me happy.
     
    Echo said:
    I hope the Republican party does not elect Trump as it's nominee. There's so much better talent out there. Personally I'm a fan of Tim Scott although I'm not sure how well he will do in the primaries. But yes, I am sick and tired of hearing about Trump. He did nothing while president before and will do nothing if elected again. The man is the very definition of a narcissist who only cares about himself and does not have the best interest of the American people in mind. A Scott/Haley ticket would make me happy.
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    Right now, I'd be happy if Trump and DeSantis both crash and burn in the primaries. I want someone else at the top of the Republican ticket.

    I'm not optimistic tho.
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    By now, it’s obvious that the reactionary culture warriors who want to reshape American education are inspiring a serious liberal counter-mobilization in response. Remarkably, this backlash to the backlash is gaining momentum in some of the reddest parts of the country.

    A raucous school board meeting in Hernando County, Fla., on Tuesday night captured what’s striking about this new phenomenon. The scene featured teachers pointedly declaring that right-wing attacks are driving them to quit, even as parents and students forcefully stood up on their behalf, demanding a halt to the hysteria.

    “I have never seen such fear from my colleagues as I have seen in the last two months,” social studies teacher Victoria Hunt told the board.

    The whole affair really put the culture-war-mongers to shame. Not that they’ll see it that way; as the meeting also showed, scenes like this — with maximum rage, fear, tension and suspicion surging between parents and educators — are precisely the outcome they want.

    This county, north of Tampa, voted for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in 2022 by a 41-point margin. It’s where fifth-grade teacher Jenna Barbee recently enraged local enforcers of right-wing orthodoxy by showing her class “Strange World,” a Disney movie with an openly gay character. The Florida Department of Education is investigating whether she violated DeSantis’s “don’t say gay” law restricting classroom discussion of sex and gender.

    Barbee is resigning, but she’s hardly the only one. At Tuesday’s meeting, local teacher Daniel Scott gave a moving speech, declaring that the climate of rage is driving him out of the profession.

    “I don’t feel that I can adequately provide a safe environment for my students anymore,” Scott said, denouncing the “draconian working conditions that are causing many such as myself to abandon this honored career.”

    Meanwhile, Alyssa Marano, a math teacher who has resigned, rejected the oft-heard charge of LGBTQ indoctrination of students. “No one is teaching your kids to be gay,” she told the room. “Sometimes, they just are gay. I have math to teach. I literally don’t have time to teach your kids to be gay.”

    Nearly 50 teachers are reportedly planning to resign in this school district. Lisa Masserio, president of the teachers union in Hernando County, says state laws and directives restricting educators are a key reason. She told us: “There is increased pressure and scrutiny on an already difficult job.”

    At the meeting, right-wing parents and a minority of the school board amplified the usual attacks: Pornography in classrooms, indoctrination, wokeness. Watching them, it was impossible to avoid the sense that they were relishing every second of the tumult they’ve unleashed...............

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    Sadly, this is all part of the right wing objective championed by DeSantis. They want to destroy public education in this country and the best way to do that is to drive teachers out of the profession. It is working and we will be a worse country for it. The level of ignorance and bigotry this era has spawned will haunt this country for some time.
     
    Echo said:
    I hope the Republican party does not elect Trump as it's nominee. There's so much better talent out there. Personally I'm a fan of Tim Scott although I'm not sure how well he will do in the primaries. But yes, I am sick and tired of hearing about Trump. He did nothing while president before and will do nothing if elected again. The man is the very definition of a narcissist who only cares about himself and does not have the best interest of the American people in mind. A Scott/Haley ticket would make me happy.
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    A Scott/Haley ticket would make me happy as well. Why not a Haley/Scott ticket? Haley has had the more experience.

    The Biden/Harris ticket would do well. It would be possible to have a debate between them. There could be election bunting with band wagons.

    Election news wouldn't need those viewer age ratings like R and X for movies.
     
    Echo said:
    I hope the Republican party does not elect Trump as it's nominee. There's so much better talent out there. Personally I'm a fan of Tim Scott although I'm not sure how well he will do in the primaries. But yes, I am sick and tired of hearing about Trump. He did nothing while president before and will do nothing if elected again. The man is the very definition of a narcissist who only cares about himself and does not have the best interest of the American people in mind. A Scott/Haley ticket would make me happy.
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    Good luck. The Republican Party no longer exists.
     
    Echo said:
    I hope the Republican party does not elect Trump as it's nominee. There's so much better talent out there. Personally I'm a fan of Tim Scott although I'm not sure how well he will do in the primaries. But yes, I am sick and tired of hearing about Trump. He did nothing while president before and will do nothing if elected again. The man is the very definition of a narcissist who only cares about himself and does not have the best interest of the American people in mind. A Scott/Haley ticket would make me happy.
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    Unfortunately, at this time in our history, having an (R) behind one's name is an automatic indication that person cannot and should not be trusted with any kind of position of authority for a huge swath of the country. It's been earned. I've voted for Republicans prior to 2012. I learned that mistake already as I'm sure many have.
     
    Saintamaniac said:
    Unfortunately, at this time in our history, having an (R) behind one's name is an automatic indication that person cannot and should not be trusted with any kind of position of authority for a huge swath of the country. It's been earned. I've voted for Republicans prior to 2012. I learned that mistake already as I'm sure many have.
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    I feel the same way....I also feel the same way about Christianity and Islam.....there are plenty of sane, good folks who practice both religions but they are drowned out by the insane cultish lunatics who have weaponized it for evil......
     
    The radical extremist in the GOP Congressional delegation has resorted to more terroristic tactics...

    The House’s conservative hardliners aren’t done exacting revenge on GOP leaders for what they see as Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s broken promises during Washington’s debt drama.

    A band of roughly a dozen firebrands, mostly in the Trump-aligned Freedom Caucus, are now working to derail senior Republicans’ plans to pass even widely popular party priorities on the floor this week.
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    And they’re preparing to make trouble beyond choking some floor action. More broadly, McCarthy’s right flank is trying to reassert control over a large swath of the GOP agenda. Already, blocs of conservatives are pushing Republican leaders to ramp up attacks against Biden administration officials — while also pushing for spending cuts this fall that would essentially renege on last week’s debt deal.
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    www.politico.com

    Conservatives shut down House floor as revenge for debt deal

    The roughly dozen lawmakers say they want certain commitments in writing from Speaker Kevin McCarthy over how leaders will run the chamber moving forward.
    www.politico.com www.politico.com
     
    MT15 said:
    If McCarthy is a smart man, he will strike a deal with Jeffries and make these idiots irrelevant. I do not have faith that McCarthy is a smart man, however.
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    Agreed. All he wanted was to be speaker. He sold his soul and his ballz to get it. When they are done emasculating him there won’t be much left. Of course the poorly named “Freedom Caucus” is populated by absolute idiots.
     
    I gave a first ever listen to Vivek Ramaswamy
    He is 37 years old and he talks a good game.
    Speaks with confidence/ boldness
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