What happens to the Republican Party now? (2 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones created a minor media storm this week when he announced that he would no longer “pigheadedly” support Donald Trump.

Instead, he announced on his Infowars show that he would now be supporting Florida Governor Ron DeSantis saying he was “someone who is better than Trump”.

Previously Mr Jones had disagreed with the Trump administration over its Covid-19vaccination plans but had disregarded that opposition to avoid the “nightmare scenario” of Joe Biden being elected president.

“That said, I am supporting DeSantis. DeSantis has just gone from being awesome to being unbelievably good,” said Mr Jones said on Thursday……

However, since then Mr Jones has personally reached out with an “emergency message” begging the former president to watch his whole show after his newfound love for Governor DeSantis made headlines.

“So this is my emergency message to you, Mr President,” Mr Jones begins in a statement to the camera. “To go and actually watch the first 30 minutes of Thursday’s show … so you can see what I said in context.

“The corporate media edited it down to a 30-second clip to make it sounds like that I’m only for DeSantis and that I’ve abandoned you. That’s not true,” he continues. “It’s the contrary……..

Alex Jones begs Trump to watch video for context after saying he now backs DeSantis

Disgraced broadcaster had said he now supported Florida governor for the next Republican nomination

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[MT15]

 

[coldseat]

Right wing media is the most malignant and destructive force that democracy and this country have met. It will consume us all eventually if it's not abandoned by Republicans.

 

[zztop]

Rusty Bowers going out swinging. Also AZ is forked. The (R) nominations for governor, the state attorney general, and sec of state are all ardent trump supporters. AZ tried to pass House bill 2596, which would have given the Republican-controlled legislature the power to reject any election result that the majority group didn’t like (Bowers killed it).

Ousted Republican reflects on Trump, democracy and America: ‘The place has lost its mind’

Rusty Bowers stood up to the former president’s demand that he overturn Arizona’s election result. He paid the price but has no regrets

www.theguardian.com

"Taking away the fundamental right to vote, the idea that the legislature could nullify your election, that's not conservative. That's fascist. And I'm not a fascist."

 

[Eeyore]

'Once We Take Control': Dalton Clodfelter Lays Out His Christian Fascist Agenda | Right Wing Watch

Earlier this year, far-right conspiracy theorist Stew Peters gave white nationalist, Christian fascist Dalton Clodfelter a nightly program on his Stew

www.rightwingwatch.org

 

[Optimus Prime]

Wasn’t sure what thread to put this is in
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Sensitive election system files obtained by attorneys working to overturn President Donald Trump’s 2020 defeat were shared with election deniers, conspiracy theorists and right-wing commentators, according to records reviewed by The Washington Post.


A Georgia computer forensics firm, hired by the attorneys, placed the files on a server, where company records show they were downloaded dozens of times.

Among the downloaders were accounts associated with a Texas meteorologist who has appeared on Sean Hannity’s radio show; a podcaster who suggested political enemies should be executed; a former pro surfer who pushed disproven theories that the 2020 election was manipulated; and a self-described former “seduction and pickup coach” who claims to also have been a hacker.


Plaintiffs in a long-running federal lawsuit over the security of Georgia’s voting systems obtained the new records from the company, Atlanta-based SullivanStrickler, under a subpoena to one of its executives.

The records include contracts between the firm and the Trump-allied attorneys, notably Sidney Powell. The data files are described as copies of components from election systems in Coffee County, Ga., and Antrim County, Mich.

A series of data leaks and alleged breaches of local elections offices since 2020 has prompted criminal investigations and fueled concerns among some security experts that public disclosure of information collected from voting systems could be exploited by hackers and other people seeking to manipulate future elections.

Access to U.S. voting system software and other components is tightly regulated, and the government classifies those systems as “critical infrastructure.”

The new batch of records shows for the first time how the files copied from election systems were distributed to people in multiple states……….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2022/08/22/election-system-copied-files-trump/

 

[Optimus Prime]

Comment from above article which is as good an analogy as I’ve heard
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Your car runs great but it’s time for an annual inspection.

The shady car mechanic makes up problems where none exist.

He then insists on finding and fixing the non-existent problems.

While doing so, he actually damages your car.

And overcharges you for the whole process.

And then he tells you that you shouldn’t trust your car.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Announcing his switch to the Democrats, a Colorado state senator said Republican attacks on democracy were not the only “existential threat” posed by his former party……

“Fear-mongering to raise money or motivate voters is nothing new,” Priola wrote, “but it has been taken to a dangerous and destabilising level.

“I cannot continue to be part of a political party that is OK with a violent attempt to overturn a free and fair election and continues to peddle claims that the 2020 election was stolen.”

Priola said he became a Republican thanks to the examples of Richard Nixon – the only president to resign in disgrace – and Ronald Reagan, but would now caucus with Democrats despite not sharing many of their positions….:

“Even if there continue to be issues that I disagree with the Democratic party on, there is too much at stake right now for Republicans to be in charge.”

Saying he had decided to “align with truth over conspiracy”, Priola concluded: “We need Democrats in charge because our planet and our democracy depend on it.”……

Colorado Republican turns Democrat over ‘existential threat’ from GOP

In letter announcing defection, state senator Kevin Priola cites political and environmental threat from his erstwhile party

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

yep

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

yep

This is the wrong world.

 

[efil4]

yep

So I gotta imagine they had to get permission from Top Gun folks for this no?

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Small example of the danger of Ron DeSantis:

 

[MT15]

He’s been doing this on the regular. Along with all Trumpists, honestly. They’re budding fascists.

 

[Optimus Prime]

yep

Clearly, what Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was going for was a comparison to Tom Cruise.


Hence the “Top Gov” label at the beginning of his latest political ad, which resembles that of Cruise’s “Top Gun” movies, and the slo-mo shots of the Republican governor zipping up a flight suit over an energetic guitar music track.

DeSantis “briefs” an out-of-view team — presumably Florida voters — about the “rules of engagement” for “dogfighting” with the “corporate media.”

At one point, he sits in the cockpit of what appears to be a fighter jet, flight helmet on, and says, “Alright, ladies and gentlemen.”


What are DeSantis and his team getting instead?

Comparisons to Michael Dukakis, the Massachusetts governor who made one of the most-mocked campaign photo ops in modern political history while running for president in 1988……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/08/23/desantis-dukakis-fighter-jet-tank/

 

[zztop]

I know this will come as a shock, being she was backed by trump

Defeated GOP Extremist Laura Loomer: 'I'm Not Conceding, Because I'm A Winner!'

The far-right House candidate lost, for real, to Dan Webster in a Florida Republican primary.

www.huffpost.com

“What we have done tonight is really, honestly shocked the nation,” she continued. “We have further exposed a corruption within our own feckless, cowardly Republican Party. And that is exactly the reason why, right, I decided to go against the RINO Republican Daniel Webster, do-nothing Daniel Webster.”

 

[MT15]

Clearly, what Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was going for was a comparison to Tom Cruise.


Hence the “Top Gov” label at the beginning of his latest political ad, which resembles that of Cruise’s “Top Gun” movies, and the slo-mo shots of the Republican governor zipping up a flight suit over an energetic guitar music track.

DeSantis “briefs” an out-of-view team — presumably Florida voters — about the “rules of engagement” for “dogfighting” with the “corporate media.”

At one point, he sits in the cockpit of what appears to be a fighter jet, flight helmet on, and says, “Alright, ladies and gentlemen.”


What are DeSantis and his team getting instead?

Comparisons to Michael Dukakis, the Massachusetts governor who made one of the most-mocked campaign photo ops in modern political history while running for president in 1988……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/08/23/desantis-dukakis-fighter-jet-tank/

 

[MT15]