What happens to the Republican Party now? (2 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[V Chip]

See Translation?

“Hey did everybody know this potential Supreme Court Justice is BLACK??!?!!?!”

 

[MT15]

Hateful.

 

[DaveXA]

Hateful.

It really is, which is partially why I haven't identified as GOP ever since Trump won the nomination.

 

[MT15]

 

[coldseat]

Tell me this doesn't sound exactly like Republicans in this country, just substitute "the west" for "Democrats". For years, they've been fed constant propaganda through their right wing media empire. And the sum total it's amounted to is a grievance culture of the highest order willing to accept anything in the name of protecting the real citizens of this country (i.e. them). The Russian citizenry and Republicans in this country are exactly the same.

Few Americans have parsed Russian propaganda on its various platforms like Maxim Pozdorovkin.
The Russian-born, Harvard-educated filmmaker and thinker is behind several works on the subject, most notably “Our New President” from 2018, an award-winning documentary deconstruction of the Russian media’s portrayal of Donald Trump’s election that was, as he puts it, “a movie based entirely on actual footage without a single true statement in it.” He also examined the resistance to such media messaging in “arse Riot: A Punk Prayer,” a nonfiction film on the political collective.

Far from just an attempt to negate discontent over its Ukraine invasion, Russia’s current state-media approach is, in Pozdorovkin’s view, a continuation of a decade-long campaign to warp Russian citizens’ view of the West. He argues the country’s population has been long primed for this moment — seriously lowering the odds for any tech company or foreign outlet hoping to poke through the veil.


The Washington Post spoke to Pozdorovkin by phone from his home in Brooklyn, where he now lives. The conversation has been edited for brevity and clarity.
Q: You’ve been very vocal in your work that there’s been a whole narrative about America playing out in Russian media that most Americans aren’t aware of. What exactly has been happening?
A: I don’t think Americans fully understand what’s been fed to Russians about the U.S. and the West for literally the past decade. It’s been an information war — a totally one-sided information war — and it has been waged so fully and artfully that it’s made a lot of what’s happening now preemptively possible. What this information war boils down to is this: “The West is completely against us and trying to stifle and destroy our way of life.” It’s a simple message. But people are told this over and over, in so many different ways.


Q: Like how?
A: The Western sanctions back in 2014 over the war in the Donbas? An attempt to destroy the Russian way of life. The backlash to the Russian disinformation campaign in the 2016 U.S. election? An attempt to destroy the Russian way of life. Russian-doping punishments at the Olympics? Same thing. You name it, if it has involved Russia and the West, it was the West trying to destroy the Russian way of life. When in reality, of course, most Americans don’t typically spend much time thinking about Russia at all.
Q: And Trump fits neatly into this —
A: Trump fits neatly into this because Trump was the one American leader who wasn’t trying to destroy the Russian way of life.

Q: And in their eyes that’s what caused the U.S. backlash to him.
A: That was the one and only reason.
Q: What effect does this have? Like you said, it’s not like the U.S. or Europe has done much to really feed this narrative.

A: It’s true, the Russian media has been totally shadowboxing for years; no one was fighting back. But that doesn’t really matter. If you ingrain this message of victimhood so completely, what it does is when there’s any kind of [President Vladimir] Putin aggressive action, as there is now, a lot of people in Russia don’t see it as aggressive — they just see it as standing up for their way of life. That’s why the nuclear threat computes.

Q: Because it’s not viewed as much as saber-rattling as “look at what you made me do.”
A: Exactly. “We don’t want to take the nuclear option. But what choice do we have? You tried to destroy our way of life.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/22/putin-propaganda-pozdorovkin-qa/

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

I'd say the first sentence is demonstrably untrue. The GOP is not in trouble at all. They're poised to retake both Houses, they have an unassailable majority in the Supreme Court, which is allowing them to gerrymander and suppress voting all over America.
The most incompetent, cowardly scumbag ever to inhabit the White House still pulled 77 million votes and might conceivably win in 2024 if current trends continue.

The Republican party is sitting pretty from what I can see.

May the FSM have mercy on us.

Indeed, the Republican Party is not in trouble at all. Political parties don't change unless the voters make them change, and that certainly hasn't happened to them yet.

The Republicans have been hopelessly corrupt and downright despicable for a very long time, going back over 20 years. Yet they are still well-positioned to take back Congress in Nov 2022. Not a good sign at all for the future of democracy in this country.

 

[DaveXA]

Indeed, the Republican Party is not in trouble at all. Political parties don't change unless the voters make them change, and that certainly hasn't happened to them yet.

The Republicans have been hopelessly corrupt and downright despicable for a very long time, going back over 20 years. Yet they are still well-positioned to take back Congress in Nov 2022. Not a good sign at all for the future of democracy in this country.

It's weird though. For years we kept hearing how Democrats were winning the demographics and that younger people were more liberal leaning than ever, yet here we are. I really hope Trump is either dead or doesn't run in 2024. But I'm worried we'll find a younger version of him and we'll be in the same, or worse spot then. Meh.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

It's weird though. For years we kept hearing how Democrats were winning the demographics and that younger people were more liberal leaning than ever, yet here we are. I really hope Trump is either dead or doesn't run in 2024. But I'm worried we'll find a younger version of him and we'll be in the same, or worse spot then. Meh.

If it were a fair election -- no voter suppression laws and no gerrymandering -- then I think the Democrats would have a very good chance of winning in Nov. However, that is not the case. Democrats have been fighting an uphill battle on election day for a long time now, going back to 2000 in my opinion.

It does not matter if Trump is the Republican nominee in 2024. The whole Republican Party is now as evil, corrupt, and deranged as he is. Whichever Republican candidate says the craziest Nazi GQP shirt in 2024 will be the nominee.

 

[el caliente]

As someone who works in finance I feel this is one class that should be required for all High School kids. Get a mastery on the 8th wonder of the world, and the world will be closer to a better place.

I’m glad DeSantis did this.

Florida to require high school financial literacy class to graduate

It will soon be reading, writing, and return on investments for Sunshine State students. A bill signed by Gov. Ron DeSantis on Tuesday requires all Florida kids to take and pass a basic financial l…

nypost.com

 

[coldseat]

As someone who works in finance I feel this is one class that should be required for all High School kids. Get a mastery on the 8th wonder of the world, and the world will be closer to a better place.

I’m glad DeSantis did this.

Florida to require high school financial literacy class to graduate

It will soon be reading, writing, and return on investments for Sunshine State students. A bill signed by Gov. Ron DeSantis on Tuesday requires all Florida kids to take and pass a basic financial l…

nypost.com

"This will provide a foundation for students to learn about the basics of money management — understanding debt, understanding how to balance a checkbook, understanding the fundamentals of investing,” he said.

That's not a bad thing at all, but I'm just curious, do people still balance check books? I always get a kick when people say that. Like are they going to sit there and give them a ledger and have them add and subtracts deposits/payments? Lol. All they need to tell them to download their bank app. Or are they talking more about budgeting?

I never got why that was such a big deal anyway. When I got my first checking account, I looked at the example in the ledger on the checkbook and figured it out in a few minutes. I always thought that it was funny people considered that such an important financial skill that needed to be taught.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

This is a Fox Business Channel report on RNC recruiting new voters at gas stations.
Maybe some folks would be interested in this video story?? (running time: 1 minute 59 seconds)
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[el caliente]

That's not a bad thing at all, but I'm just curious, do people still balance check books? I always get a kick when people say that. Like are they going to sit there and give them a ledger and have then add and subtracts deposits/payments? Lol. All they need to do tell them to download their bank app. Or are they talking more about budgeting?

I never got why that was such a big deal anyway. When I got my first checking account, I looked at the example in the ledger on the checkbook and figured it out in a few minutes. I always that it was funny people considered that such an important financial skill that needed to be taught.

Kudos to you, What you find funny others find harder than curing cancer.

I have found it beyond crazy that as individuals means increase, their ability to live within their means doesn’t get easier. I work with individuals who put millions into trusts for their kids with stipulations in the trust agreements as to how the money must be spent, or the conditions under which the monies will be accessible, for the fact that the trustees can’t be trusted to spend the money properly. It’s both amazing and sad.

But yes, if folks can learn that you shouldn’t be spending more than you make, it might change their mental well being as well as their financial.

 

[DaveXA]

That's not a bad thing at all, but I'm just curious, do people still balance check books? I always get a kick when people say that. Like are they going to sit there and give them a ledger and have then add and subtracts deposits/payments? Lol. All they need to do tell them to download their bank app. Or are they talking more about budgeting?

I never got why that was such a big deal anyway. When I got my first checking account, I looked at the example in the ledger on the checkbook and figured it out in a few minutes. I always that it was funny people considered that such an important financial skill that needed to be taught.

Budgeting, investing, savings, emergency funds, retirement planning, time value of money among other things. There's a whole world beyond balancing checkbooks and reviewing monthly statements.

 

[Sandman]

Drop this guy in 1860, and he is saying it is up to the states whether owning another person is legal or not. This is the Republican Party right now. This is a SENATOR.

 

[el caliente]

Drop this guy in 1860, and he is saying it is up to the states whether owning another person is legal or not. This is the Republican Party right now. This is a SENATOR.

1860? Try 1960 (60 years ago).

Guys like this get elected by idiots. It’s no different than the mayor of New Orleans.

 

[MT15]

 

[Taurus]

It's weird though. For years we kept hearing how Democrats were winning the demographics and that younger people were more liberal leaning than ever, yet here we are. I really hope Trump is either dead or doesn't run in 2024. But I'm worried we'll find a younger version of him and we'll be in the same, or worse spot then. Meh.

Democrats are absolutely winning those things. Trump got curbstomped by the largest margin ever, yet it didn't reflect in the electoral college results.

Republicans have utterly, completely, laughably outmaneuvered the Dems when it comes to the mechanics of voting and what the results mean.

 

[coldseat]

Budgeting, investing, savings, emergency funds, retirement planning, time value of money among other things. There's a whole world beyond balancing checkbooks and reviewing monthly statements.

I don't want my question to be misunderstood, it was just specific to the act of balancing an actual checkbook and if that was hyperbole for something else. There are certainly a whole host of topics that can and should be taught in a financially literacy course that would be very helpful.

I hope that they go through the FHA First Time Home Buyer course as part of their financial literacy course. There's so much good information in that course and it's required when applying for most mortgages, but most people watch it at the end of the home buying process and just to fulfill the requirement. Given that buying a home is one of the largest financial investments most people will make, it makes good sense to give young people that information early on so that they can be more prepared.