We Need to Talk About Trump's Project 2025 & Trump's Manifesto "Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise" (1 Viewer)

[LA - L.A.]

I think Trump's Project 2025 needs it's own thread to make as many people as possible aware of it, how Trump and the people he's surrounded himself with are dead serious about making it happen, and how devastating it will be if we allow Trump to make it happen. These are the various pages on his website which should show Trump means business. Trump's not just wishing or theorizing, he's planning and implementing.

Trump and his minion's home page (the bolding is their's, not mine):

Project 2025 | Presidential Transition Project

Presidential Transition Project The 2025 Presidential Transition Project paves the way for an effective conservative Administration based on four pillars.

www.project2025.org

"It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration.​

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This is the goal of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project. The project will build on four pillars that will, collectively, pave the way for an effective conservative Administration."​

Trump's policy agenda page:

Policy | Project 2025

This book is the product of more than 400 scholars and policy experts from across the conservative movement and around the country. Contributors include former elected officials, world-renowned economists, and veterans from four presidential Administrations. This is an agenda prepared by and for...

www.project2025.org

"This book is an invitation for you the reader—Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, and Ms. Smith—to come to Washington or support those who can. Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.​

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The next conservative President will enter office on January 20, 2025, with a simple choice: greatness or failure. It will be a daunting test, but no more so than every other generation of Americans has faced and passed. The Conservative Promise represents the best effort of the conservative movement in 2023—and the next conservative President’s last opportunity to save our republic."​

Trump's personnel (recruitment/application) page, bolding is mine:

Personnel | Project 2025

Please fill out the questionnaire below and upload your resume for inclusion in the Presidential Personnel Database if you would like to be considered for positions in a presidential Administration. Project 2025 is the effort of a massive coalition of conservative organizations that have come...

www.project2025.org

"Please fill out the questionnaire below and upload your resume for inclusion in the Presidential Personnel Database if you would like to be considered for positions in a presidential Administration.​

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Project 2025 is the effort of a massive coalition of conservative organizations that have come together to ensure a successful Administration begins in January 2025. With the right conservative policy recommendations and properly vetted and trained personnel to implement them, we will take back our government. Project 2025 is being organized by The Heritage Foundation."​

Trump's training page:

Training | Project 2025

The Presidential Administration Academy is a one-of-a-kind educational and skill-building program designed to prepare and equip future political appointees now to be ready on Day One of the next conservative Administration. This academy provides aspiring appointees with the insight, background...

www.project2025.org

"The Presidential Administration Academy is a one-of-a-kind educational and skill-building program designed to prepare and equip future political appointees now to be ready on Day One of the next conservative Administration. This academy provides aspiring appointees with the insight, background knowledge, and expertise in governance to immediately begin rolling back destructive policy and advancing conservative ideas in the federal government."​

Trump's first 180 days playbook page:

Playbook | Project 2025

The fourth pillar of Project 2025 is our 180-day Transition Playbook and includes a comprehensive, concrete transition plan for each federal agency. Only through the implementation of specific action plans at each agency will the next conservative presidential Administration be successful...

www.project2025.org

"The time is short, and conservatives need a plan. The project will create a playbook of actions to be taken in the first 180 days of the new Administration to bring quick relief to Americans suffering from the Left’s devastating policies."​

Trump's playbook, bolding mine (I've downloaded the pdf of their playbook for when Trump eventually pulls it from his website once the backlash really kicks in):

https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

"This book is an invitation for you the reader—Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, and Ms. Smith—to come to Washington or support those who can. Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.​

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This is an agenda prepared by and for conservatives who will be ready on Day One of the next Administration to save our country. The Heritage Foundation is once again facilitating this work, but as our dozens of partners and hundreds of authors will attest, this book is the work of the entire conservative movement.​

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The next conservative President will enter office on January 20, 2025 ... The Conservative Promise represents the best effort of the conservative movement in 2023—and the next conservative President’s last opportunity to save our republic."​

The link to the 111 groups Trump and his minions have cobbled together in a coalition to help Trump achieve his agenda.

Advisory Board | Project 2025

GET INVOLVED Does your organization want to join us in the fight for our country? Join Us

www.project2025.org

Groups include:​

• ALEC - the Koch brother's foundation that has written all of the state laws that undermine child labor protection, worker's rights, air and water pollution protections, voter's rights, government assistance programs from those that need the help, and tax codes that made sure the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes.
• Moms For Liberty - the group leading the charge to ban any book that treats anyone, who is not white, heterosexual, cis and Christian, as being equal and deserving of acceptance, tolerance and respect.
• National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation - which works for corporations to prevent and bust worker's unions to help corporations pay a non living wage to employees and force them to work under horrible conditions.
• Tea Party Patriots - the group that is MAGA and has taken control of the Republican party and supports Trump's efforts to stage a coup on Jan 6th so that he could stay in power even though he lost the election.
• Turning Point USA - run by Charlie Kirk who fully embraces Christian Nationalism and the reducing of women to just being homemakers dedicated only to serving their husbands and their family, in that order

Here are some articles and videos that give an overview of what Trump's Project 2025 plans to do if Trump wins the presidency:

What Is Project 2025?

If you were on Twitter or TikTok over the weekend, you might have seen people talking about Project 2025.

time.com

Conservative groups draw up plan to dismantle the US government and replace it with Trump’s vision

With more than a year to go before the 2024 election, a constellation of conservative organizations is preparing for a possible second White House term for Donald Trump.

apnews.com

What is Project 2025? Wish list for a Trump presidency, explained

A think-tank with ties to Trump has set out a vision for Republicans. But the former president has tried to distance himself from it.

www.bbc.com

Inside the MAGA Plan to Attack Birth Control, Surveil Women and Ban the Abortion Pill

Republicans’ Project 2025 plan would leverage virtually every arm, tool and agency of the federal government to attack abortion.

www.rollingstone.com

Project 2025, the far-right agenda for a second Trump administration, explained - The Boston Globe

There is growing alarm about the sweeping plan, which opponents have called a “dystopian plot,” “far-right manifesto,” and “blueprint for destroying our democracy.”

www.bostonglobe.com

A guide to Project 2025, the extreme right-wing agenda for the next Republican administration

Project 2025, a comprehensive transition plan organized by right-wing think tank The Heritage Foundation to guide the next GOP presidential administration, is the conservative movement’s most robust policy and staffing proposal for a potential second Trump White House — and its extreme agenda...

www.mediamatters.org

The Heritage Foundation cooked up this plan during the Reagan administration, but Reagan didn't let the Heritage Foundation fully implement it. Trump has claimed it for himself and has made it his plan, because it plays into the ultimate power and control that Trump wants. See the videos below.









No matter how annoying, frustrating, distasteful, or unappealing it may be, either Biden or Trump will be the next president. No one else has a chance at winning the election. If Biden wins, we have issues to solve, but we still have our democracy.

If Trump wins, we lose our democracy and have to fight for our freedom, if we aren't white, Christian, cis, heterosexual men who believe in the divine right of white, Christian, cis, heterosexual men to sit in domination over all others.

The bottom line is this, vote for Biden if you want to preserve our democracy, or don't vote for Biden if you want to chance Trump winning, which would bring an end to our democracy.

That's the grounded-in-reality choice folks, like it or not. Please vote for Biden so that we all have the freedom to live our lives how we want, to argue with each other, and to protest without fear of being imprisoned or "falling" out of window to our death.

This election is not a drill, it's the real deal.

 

[Optimus Prime]

.............One key policy pushed repeatedly by Vance and outlined in Project 2025 is Trump’s controversial “Schedule F” proposal, which would strip civil service protections from potentially tens of thousands of federal employees so that they can be replaced by Republican political appointees.

Most provocatively, Vance has suggested in a series of interviews this year that Trump should defy the Supreme Court if the justices invalidated the effort.

The episode is worth scrutinizing not just because the proposal is a key piece of Trump’s likely governing agenda if he wins in November. It also suggests Vance, whom Trump touts as a Yale-educated lawyer, is oblivious to the underlying legal and practical mechanics of this sweeping overhaul as well as the realities of today’s Supreme Court.

The fact is this proposal is almost certainly unlawful and unworkable — but that doesn’t mean the court would block it. The conservative supermajority on the Supreme Court has proved more than willing to contort itself to achieve Republican goals, so there’s no reason to assume any legal challenge to such a policy would result in a clash between Trump and the court.

If Vance isn’t ignorant of the law, then he is instead merely eager to play the role of demagogue and further inflame an already bitter political debate. Ultimately, neither scenario is ideal for a potential vice president.

On the merits, Schedule F is a controversial idea — one that would undermine the civil service system as it has existed for more than a century and severely impair the integrity and effectiveness of the federal government, with grave consequences.

Currently, the vast majority of federal employees who keep the government running are career civil servants with employment protections and who serve from one administration to the next regardless of party. This is a key part of the “deep state” that Trump and Vance want to eradicate; Schedule F would convert these workers into political appointees who could then be summarily fired by the president and replaced with partisans loyal only to Trump.

“What Trump is trying to do is create a sort of authoritarian type of government where he can manipulate the civil service system to do what he wants,” said Kenneth Warren, a professor at St. Louis University whose areas of expertise include administrative law and the administrative state. “That’s very, very dangerous.”

Daniel Farber, a professor at Berkeley Law School who has also studied the proposal, echoed that view while also emphasizing the legal and administrative mess that would result. “This could turn into an enormous quagmire if they tried to implement it,” he said.

Trump first tried to implement Schedule F during his final months in office through an executive order, but he lost the election and the policy never took hold. Joe Biden rescinded the order shortly after taking office. And earlier this year, the Office of Personnel Management issued a lengthy rule that both reiterates and legally strengthens the traditional job protections afforded to those career officials.

Vance, however, has for years been a vocal proponent of purging the civil service, and of Schedule F.

“I think that what Trump should, like, if I was giving him one piece of advice, [is] fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state,” he said in 2021 on a podcast. “Replace them with our people. And when the courts — because you will get taken to court — and when the courts stop you, stand before the country like Andrew Jackson did and say, ‘The chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.’” (The quote attributed to Jackson is, as one scholar has noted, “probably apocryphal.”)

In an interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC News in February, Vance reiterated his stance while also seeming to recognize its extreme and unpopular nature — falsely claiming, for instance, that his earlier comments had been limited to the president’s ability to run “the military.”.................

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/08/12/what-jd-vance-gets-wrong-about-the-supreme-court-00173445

MSN

 

[Sendai]

Which will be a bad deal for citizens who will undoubtedly end up paying twice for weather data, once with their tax dollars, and once again when private equity passes the fees along.

This helps no one.

Yeah, like Google, Microsoft, Apple , etc., etc. are going to start charging.

 

[Maxp]

Yeah, like Google, Microsoft, Apple , etc., etc. are going to start charging.

You aren't even trying with this one, apples to nerd clusters comparison. Private weather services are junk. My company pays millions a year to a handful of them for absolute crap service.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Yeah, like Google, Microsoft, Apple , etc., etc. are going to start charging.

Yeah, like your false claim that Trump's Project 2025 wasn't going to privatize the Nation Weather Service (NWS), when right there in their playbook they flat out say that most of the NOAA needs to be dismantled and the rest of it privatized. NWS falls under the NOAA.

You got nothing but weak source, bro.

 

[not2rich]

Yeah, like your false claim that Trump's Project 2025 wasn't going to privatize the Nation Weather Service (NWS), when right their in the playbook they flat out say that most of the NOAA needs to be dismnatled and the rest of it privatized. NWS falls under the NOAA.

You got nothing but weak source, bro.

I used to be a libertarian. The right tends to vastly overestimate the efficiencies of the free market, more than the left overestimates the efficiency of government.

 

[Huntn]

bush the first collapsed the economy, crashed the stock market and had us on the road to another republican Great Depression. The only reason why we didn't get that bad was because Bill Clinton was elected. We cleaned up the mess.

bush the first was involved with Iran Contra up to his neck. When things were looking like the truth about bush the first's involvement was going to be exposed, bush the first took the advice of his AG william barr. He pardoned many in the case including casper weinberger. AG barr dropped the whole case and bush the first skated.

bush the first sent his AG william barr to Ruby ridge to kill just about everyone in the Weaver family. They even killed the family dog. They killed Mrs Weaver as she was standing in the doorway of their home holding her infant son.

That's just a few facts about bush the first. There are more.

He was a horrible president.

Thanks for reminding me.

 

[Sendai]

Yeah, like your false claim that Trump's Project 2025 wasn't going to privatize the Nation Weather Service (NWS), when right there in their playbook they flat out say that most of the NOAA needs to be dismantled and the rest of it privatized. NWS falls under the NOAA.

You got nothing but weak source, bro.

It said nothing about privatization of the NWS.

 

[bird]

It said nothing about privatization of the NWS.

Sooo…dismantling NOAA and privatizing THE REST doesn’t mean privatizing NWS which is part of NOAA. Perhaps you can explain the disconnect between what the document says about the department that NWS is part of and how it should be dealt with and your claim that it said nothing about privatization of the NWS. Oh, wait, the NWS should be dismantled because the only two choices which the document lays out for NOAA is dismantle or privatize.

 

[LA - L.A.]

...privatization of the NWS.

I posted a screenshot of the page from Trump's Project 2025 that says everything in the NOAA will either be dismantled or privatized. The NWS falls under the NOAA, so the NWS services will either be dismantled or privatized.

Nothing but more weak source from you. Here's another example of you deceiving for Trump which shows you clearly support Trump.

 

[Sendai]

I posted a screenshot of the page from Trump's Project 2025 that says everything in the NOAA will either be dismantled or privatized. The NWS falls under the NOAA, so the NWS services will either be dismantled or privatized.

Nothing but more weak source from you. Here's another example of you deceiving for Trump which shows you clearly support Trump.

“Focus the NWS on Commercial Operations. Each day, Americans rely on weather forecasts and warnings provided by local radio stations and colleges that are produced not by the NWS, but by private companies such as AccuWeather. Studies have found that the forecasts and warnings provided by the private com- panies are more reliable than those provided by the NWS.2 The NWS provides data the private companies use and should focus on its data-gathering services. Because private companies rely on these data, the NWS should fully commercialize its forecasting operations. NOAA does not currently utilize commercial partnerships as some other agencies do. Commercialization of weather technologies should be prioritized to ensure that taxpayer dollars are invested in the most cost-efficient technol- ogies for high quality research and weather data. Investing in different sizes of commercial partners will increase competition while ensuring that the govern- ment solutions provided by each contract is personalized to the needs of NOAA’s weather programs. The NWS should be a candidate to become a Performance-Based Organization to better enforce organizational focus on core functions such as efficient delivery of accurate, timely, and unbiased data to the public and to the private sector”

So not eliminate the NWS.

 

[LA - L.A.]

...eliminate the NWS.

Repeating yourself verbatim is weak, bro. But if that's the way you want it, let's dance:

The National Weather Service (NWS) falls under the NOAA, Trump plans to eliminate or privatize everything that the NOAA does, which includes the NWS.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[Farb]

Repeating yourself verbatim is weak, bro. But if that's the way you want it, let's dance:

The National Weather Service (NWS) falls under the NOAA, Trump plans to eliminate or privatize everything that the NOAA does, which includes the NWS.

You said 'Trump plans to', where did you get this information and the attachments?

 

[Nebaghead]

You said 'Trump plans to', where did you get this information and the attachments?

Project 2025 documents.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Project 2025 documents.

But Trump has never heard of it

 

[fooferdoggie]

But Trump has never heard of it

I am sure he has not. He has forgotten about it like most things 2 minutes past. well, real things anyway.

 

[LA - L.A.]

You said 'Trump plans to', where did you get this information and the attachments?

From the 920 page document that details Trump's Project 2025 plans. I downloaded it from their Project 2025 website. You'd know that if you had bothered to read the first post of this thread.

 

[not2rich]

From the 920 page document that details Trump's Project 2025 plans. I downloaded it from their Project 2025 website. You'd know that if you had bothered to read the first post of this thread.

He’s trying to say Project 2025 is not “official” Trump policy. The only problem with that argument is (a) the close ties between Trump/Vance and the Heritage folks, and (b) Trump has no other plan or policy.