We Need to Talk About Trump's Project 2025 & Trump's Manifesto "Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise" (2 Viewers)

[LA - L.A.]

I think Trump's Project 2025 needs it's own thread to make as many people as possible aware of it, how Trump and the people he's surrounded himself with are dead serious about making it happen, and how devastating it will be if we allow Trump to make it happen. These are the various pages on his website which should show Trump means business. Trump's not just wishing or theorizing, he's planning and implementing.

Trump and his minion's home page (the bolding is their's, not mine):

Project 2025 | Presidential Transition Project

Presidential Transition Project The 2025 Presidential Transition Project paves the way for an effective conservative Administration based on four pillars.

www.project2025.org

"It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration.​

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This is the goal of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project. The project will build on four pillars that will, collectively, pave the way for an effective conservative Administration."​

Trump's policy agenda page:

Policy | Project 2025

This book is the product of more than 400 scholars and policy experts from across the conservative movement and around the country. Contributors include former elected officials, world-renowned economists, and veterans from four presidential Administrations. This is an agenda prepared by and for...

www.project2025.org

"This book is an invitation for you the reader—Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, and Ms. Smith—to come to Washington or support those who can. Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.​

...​

The next conservative President will enter office on January 20, 2025, with a simple choice: greatness or failure. It will be a daunting test, but no more so than every other generation of Americans has faced and passed. The Conservative Promise represents the best effort of the conservative movement in 2023—and the next conservative President’s last opportunity to save our republic."​

Trump's personnel (recruitment/application) page, bolding is mine:

Personnel | Project 2025

Please fill out the questionnaire below and upload your resume for inclusion in the Presidential Personnel Database if you would like to be considered for positions in a presidential Administration. Project 2025 is the effort of a massive coalition of conservative organizations that have come...

www.project2025.org

"Please fill out the questionnaire below and upload your resume for inclusion in the Presidential Personnel Database if you would like to be considered for positions in a presidential Administration.​

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Project 2025 is the effort of a massive coalition of conservative organizations that have come together to ensure a successful Administration begins in January 2025. With the right conservative policy recommendations and properly vetted and trained personnel to implement them, we will take back our government. Project 2025 is being organized by The Heritage Foundation."​

Trump's training page:

Training | Project 2025

The Presidential Administration Academy is a one-of-a-kind educational and skill-building program designed to prepare and equip future political appointees now to be ready on Day One of the next conservative Administration. This academy provides aspiring appointees with the insight, background...

www.project2025.org

"The Presidential Administration Academy is a one-of-a-kind educational and skill-building program designed to prepare and equip future political appointees now to be ready on Day One of the next conservative Administration. This academy provides aspiring appointees with the insight, background knowledge, and expertise in governance to immediately begin rolling back destructive policy and advancing conservative ideas in the federal government."​

Trump's first 180 days playbook page:

Playbook | Project 2025

The fourth pillar of Project 2025 is our 180-day Transition Playbook and includes a comprehensive, concrete transition plan for each federal agency. Only through the implementation of specific action plans at each agency will the next conservative presidential Administration be successful...

www.project2025.org

"The time is short, and conservatives need a plan. The project will create a playbook of actions to be taken in the first 180 days of the new Administration to bring quick relief to Americans suffering from the Left’s devastating policies."​

Trump's playbook, bolding mine (I've downloaded the pdf of their playbook for when Trump eventually pulls it from his website once the backlash really kicks in):

https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

"This book is an invitation for you the reader—Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, and Ms. Smith—to come to Washington or support those who can. Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.​

...​

This is an agenda prepared by and for conservatives who will be ready on Day One of the next Administration to save our country. The Heritage Foundation is once again facilitating this work, but as our dozens of partners and hundreds of authors will attest, this book is the work of the entire conservative movement.​

...​

The next conservative President will enter office on January 20, 2025 ... The Conservative Promise represents the best effort of the conservative movement in 2023—and the next conservative President’s last opportunity to save our republic."​

The link to the 111 groups Trump and his minions have cobbled together in a coalition to help Trump achieve his agenda.

Advisory Board | Project 2025

GET INVOLVED Does your organization want to join us in the fight for our country? Join Us

www.project2025.org

Groups include:​

• ALEC - the Koch brother's foundation that has written all of the state laws that undermine child labor protection, worker's rights, air and water pollution protections, voter's rights, government assistance programs from those that need the help, and tax codes that made sure the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes.
• Moms For Liberty - the group leading the charge to ban any book that treats anyone, who is not white, heterosexual, cis and Christian, as being equal and deserving of acceptance, tolerance and respect.
• National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation - which works for corporations to prevent and bust worker's unions to help corporations pay a non living wage to employees and force them to work under horrible conditions.
• Tea Party Patriots - the group that is MAGA and has taken control of the Republican party and supports Trump's efforts to stage a coup on Jan 6th so that he could stay in power even though he lost the election.
• Turning Point USA - run by Charlie Kirk who fully embraces Christian Nationalism and the reducing of women to just being homemakers dedicated only to serving their husbands and their family, in that order

Here are some articles and videos that give an overview of what Trump's Project 2025 plans to do if Trump wins the presidency:

What Is Project 2025?

If you were on Twitter or TikTok over the weekend, you might have seen people talking about Project 2025.

time.com

Conservative groups draw up plan to dismantle the US government and replace it with Trump’s vision

With more than a year to go before the 2024 election, a constellation of conservative organizations is preparing for a possible second White House term for Donald Trump.

apnews.com

What is Project 2025? Wish list for a Trump presidency, explained

A think-tank with ties to Trump has set out a vision for Republicans. But the former president has tried to distance himself from it.

www.bbc.com

Inside the MAGA Plan to Attack Birth Control, Surveil Women and Ban the Abortion Pill

Republicans’ Project 2025 plan would leverage virtually every arm, tool and agency of the federal government to attack abortion.

www.rollingstone.com

Project 2025, the far-right agenda for a second Trump administration, explained - The Boston Globe

There is growing alarm about the sweeping plan, which opponents have called a “dystopian plot,” “far-right manifesto,” and “blueprint for destroying our democracy.”

www.bostonglobe.com

A guide to Project 2025, the extreme right-wing agenda for the next Republican administration

Project 2025, a comprehensive transition plan organized by right-wing think tank The Heritage Foundation to guide the next GOP presidential administration, is the conservative movement’s most robust policy and staffing proposal for a potential second Trump White House — and its extreme agenda...

www.mediamatters.org

The Heritage Foundation cooked up this plan during the Reagan administration, but Reagan didn't let the Heritage Foundation fully implement it. Trump has claimed it for himself and has made it his plan, because it plays into the ultimate power and control that Trump wants. See the videos below.









No matter how annoying, frustrating, distasteful, or unappealing it may be, either Biden or Trump will be the next president. No one else has a chance at winning the election. If Biden wins, we have issues to solve, but we still have our democracy.

If Trump wins, we lose our democracy and have to fight for our freedom, if we aren't white, Christian, cis, heterosexual men who believe in the divine right of white, Christian, cis, heterosexual men to sit in domination over all others.

The bottom line is this, vote for Biden if you want to preserve our democracy, or don't vote for Biden if you want to chance Trump winning, which would bring an end to our democracy.

That's the grounded-in-reality choice folks, like it or not. Please vote for Biden so that we all have the freedom to live our lives how we want, to argue with each other, and to protest without fear of being imprisoned or "falling" out of window to our death.

This election is not a drill, it's the real deal.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Trump lied? I don’t know what to say.

 

[Huntn]

Guess this can go here
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……Now he, and other American conservatives, are eager to share – or enforce – such a rare, character-defining privilege.

Vance is among a cohort of politicians around the world engaging with the idea of a return to mandatory national service.

The senator recently expressed enthusiasm for national service, claiming that it was a way for young Americans to get some “some skin in the game”. (Vance’s office did not respond to repeated requests for comment.)

Elsewhere in the Capitol, the Republican senator Lindsay Graham likewise suggested that compulsory military service was a reasonable option for addressing shortfalls in military recruitment.

For his part, Trump himself – who managed to dodge and defer being drafted into the Vietnam war five times – has explicitly rejected, via a post on his own Truth Social website, the idea that he will call for any sort of mandatory military service. Joe Biden also received deferments from the draft, on the basis of his asthma.

But could compulsory military service help address the ongoing loneliness “epidemic” and the crisis of alienation facing men and boys? Or is it just another desperate, cynical, nostalgic political gimmick?

The Heritage Foundation, a conservative thinktank, has outlined measures for renewed mandatory service in Project 2025, its dense manifesto for reshaping the nation in its own rightwing image, under the leadership of America’s next conservative present (presumably Donald Trump).

The group’s 887-page manifesto, titled Mandate For Leadership: The Conservative Promise, includes a lengthy chapter by Trump’s former acting defense secretary Christopher Miller, that outlines a conservative future for the US military.

Miller proposes that conservative leadership should “increase the number of junior ROTC [reserve officers’ training corps] programs in secondary schools” and require high school students to take the armed services vocational aptitude battery (Asvab), a test to gauge their suitability for military service.

He also calls for banning transgender recruits from the military, along with the expansion of America’s nuclear weapons stores and its role hawking arms and military technology to other powers, re-embracing its role as what he terms, apparently without irony or euphemism, the “Arsenal of Democracy”.

Representatives from Project 2025 responded to a request for comment with a note that stated: “Project 2025 is a coalition of more than 110 conservative organizations preparing to offer recommendations to the next conservative president. Project 2025 does not speak for any candidate or campaign.”

To critics, such ideas seem like little more than a stalking horse for a renewed draft. (Indeed, Miller’s chapter laments that “the army no longer reflects national demographics to the degree that it did before 1974 when the draft was eliminated”.)

Cindy Sheehan, an American anti-war activist and former vice-presidential nominee for the Peace and Freedom party, compares the Project 2025 vision of America to “Sparta without any honor”.

Sheehan, whose son Casey was killed by enemy action in 2004 during the Iraq war, says that “there is already too much military recruitment in secondary schools. Students should be focused on learning and preparing for a healthy future without being preyed upon by military recruiters.”…..

The one policy conservatives across the world say will fix men: mandatory military service

Proponents say the draft could help foster connection. Others see the proposal as a cynical political gimmick

www.theguardian.com

While I’d have no part of the GOP, MAGA, Project 2025, this is one area I’m in agreement with is the idea of mandatory National service. Why? Some countries have It and it would get more families in the game and engaged when our people are sent overseas because the President/Congress decides to start a sham war. This is one of the reasons there were huge protests over Vietnam, the draft.

But after the draft was dropped and it became voluntary, if you look at Iraq, Afganistan, and casualties , it became “those families” unless it’s your family and someone you know. Of course it would still be those families but a National draft would do a better job of spreading the danger and loss across a wider spectrum of families.

I volunteered for the service (USN) because it would give me something I wanted, flight training. I did not stay in for 20 years, my son did, and both mine and his impression are that cutting/dropping 20 year pensions (I’m not sure exactly, turning it into a 401k type benefit) was a mistake for military retention purposes. It was done, as usual to save money, and I’m not sure who to point my finger at. But, I’ll also acknowledge that the US’s Defense budget expense is substantial, but smaller than Social Security and Medicare. The Federal spending chart is an eye opener.

Fiscal Data Explains Federal Spending

Check out @FiscalService Fiscal Data’s new federal spending page! #FederalSpending

fiscaldata.treasury.gov

 

[Huntn]

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has repeatedly denied knowing about the Project 2025 policy blueprint or the people behind it.
“Have no idea who is in charge of it,” he wrote in a social media post in July.


But in April 2022, Trump shared a 45-minute private flight with Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts, according to people familiar with the trip, plane-tracking data and a photograph from on board the plane, which has not been previously reported.

They flew together to a Heritage conference where Trump delivered a keynote address that gestured to Heritage’s forthcoming policy proposals.


“They’re going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do,” Trump said in the speech.


Separately, Roberts told The Washington Post in an interview in April of this year that he had previously discussed Project 2025 with Trump as part of offering briefings to all presidential candidates.

“I personally have talked to President Trump about Project 2025,” he said in the interview, “because my role in the project has been to make sure that all of the candidates who have responded to our offer for a briefing on Project 2025 get one from me.”

Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt said Roberts never briefed Trump. A Heritage spokeswoman declined to elaborate on private meetings…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/08/07/trump-heritage-project-2025-roberts/

The man is mentally ill, and/or immoral and corrupt, if he thinks his lies are unnoticed, or that he’s fooling his suckers, or that it’s “ok”, a normal way to conduct yourself.

 

[Optimus Prime]

While I’d have no part of the GOP, MAGA, Project 2025, this is one area where I’m in agreement with is the idea of mandatory National service. Why? Some countries have It and it would get more families in the game and engaged when our people are sent overseas because the President/Congress decides to start a sham war. This is one of the reasons there were huge protests over Vietnam, the draft.

But after the draft was dropped and it became voluntary, if you look at Iraq, Afganistan, and casualties , it became “those families” unless it’s your family and someone you know. Of course it would still be those families but a National draft would do a better job of spreading the danger annd loss across a wider spectrum of families.

I volunteered for the service (USN) because it would give me something I wanted, flight training. I did not stay in for 20 years, my son did, and both mine and his impression are that cutting/dropping 20 year pensions (I’m not sure exactly, turning it into a 401k type benefit) was a mistake for military retention purposes. It was done, as usual to save money, and I’m not sure who to point my finger at. But, I’ll also acknowledge that the US’s Defense budget expense is substantial, but smaller than Social Security and Medicare. The Federal spending chart is an eye opener.

Fiscal Data Explains Federal Spending

Check out @FiscalService Fiscal Data’s new federal spending page! #FederalSpending

fiscaldata.treasury.gov

I disagree

The military is 100% not for everybody and I think that it would be a huge mistake to make it mandatory

It definitely seems like the Vietnam protests were much more intense and visceral and I think a big part of that was that there were so many there that didn't ask to be or want to be

Say what you want about Iraq and Afghanistan but there was nobody there who didn't join the military knowing war was a possibility and their families knew as well

Simply wanting to spread the fear and grief of having a son or daughter or sibling overseas in a war zone is a poor reason to do it (exponentially so it they are there against their will)

 

[Huntn]

Dup post

 

[bird]

While I’d have no part of the GOP, MAGA, Project 2025, this is one area where I’m in agreement with is the idea of mandatory National service. Why? Some countries have It and it would get more families in the game and engaged when our people are sent overseas because the President/Congress decides to start a sham war. This is one of the reasons there were huge protests over Vietnam, the draft.

But after the draft was dropped and it became voluntary, if you look at Iraq, Afganistan, and casualties , it became “those families” unless it’s your family and someone you know. Of course it would still be those families but a National draft would do a better job of spreading the danger annd loss across a wider spectrum of families.

I volunteered for the service (USN) because it would give me something I wanted, flight training. I did not stay in for 20 years, my son did, and both mine and his impression are that cutting/dropping 20 year pensions (I’m not sure exactly, turning it into a 401k type benefit) was a mistake for military retention purposes. It was done, as usual to save money, and I’m not sure who to point my finger at. But, I’ll also acknowledge that the US’s Defense budget expense is substantial, but smaller than Social Security and Medicare. The Federal spending chart is an eye opener.

Fiscal Data Explains Federal Spending

Check out @FiscalService Fiscal Data’s new federal spending page! #FederalSpending

fiscaldata.treasury.gov

So, the history of the draft is intriguing. Too often wealth has allowed some to serve in rather cushy places while others are cannon fodder. Basically, war has always been let others serve. Sure, WW2 was different but I would be unsurprised if there weren’t those who succeeded in gaming the system. John Wayne and Ronald Reagan are two who did, imo. Also compare Joe DiMaggio with Ted Williams.

Now, national service is not a bad idea at all. Unfortunately, it will never happen. If the Dems held both houses (the Senate should be altered or abolished) and the presidency, imo, the SCOTUS as currently constructed would strike it down.

Regarding defense spending, imo, defense spending must include Homeland Security and all budgets including black ops and also should include the VA. I have zero problem with the VA but all of it must be part of defense spending.

 

[Huntn]

I disagree

The military is 100% not for everybody and I think that it would be a huge mistake to make it mandatory

It definitely seems like the Vietnam protests were much more intense and visceral and I think a big part of that was that there were so many there that didn't ask to be or want to be

Say what you want about Iraq and Afghanistan but there was nobody there who didn't join the military knowing war was a possibility and their families knew as well

Simply wanting to spread the fear and grief of having a son or daughter or sibling overseas in a war zone is a poor reason to do it (exponentially so it they are there against their will)

National service can be other than the military. I acknowledge your disagreement. It’s my observation, not something I’d fight for tooth and nail. Yes, we knew we could go to war, but the point I was making remains, especially when a large number of volunteers are low income with no better options.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Basically the only sector of people who really approve of Project 2025 are MAGA republicans

Every other group dispproves much more than approves

However the don't approve numbers are still way lower that I would have thought

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

National service can be other than the military. I acknowledge your disagreement. It’s my observation, not something I’d fight for tooth and nail. Yes, we knew we could go to war, but the point I was making remains, especially when a large number of volunteers are low income with no better options.

but how many ex military struggle financially and are on some type of govt assistance? how many homeless vets are there? it may help some low income people, but it creates some also. plus, we all know the rich won't have to because Daddy will pull strings. it's just a bag idea.

 

[Sendai]

So, the history of the draft is intriguing. Too often wealth has allowed some to serve in rather cushy places while others are cannon fodder. Basically, war has always been let others serve. Sure, WW2 was different but I would be unsurprised if there weren’t those who succeeded in gaming the system. John Wayne and Ronald Reagan are two who did, imo. Also compare Joe DiMaggio with Ted Williams.

Now, national service is not a bad idea at all. Unfortunately, it will never happen. If the Dems held both houses (the Senate should be altered or abolished) and the presidency, imo, the SCOTUS as currently constructed would strike it down.

Regarding defense spending, imo, defense spending must include Homeland Security and all budgets including black ops and also should include the VA. I have zero problem with the VA but all of it must be part of defense spending.

Reagan enlisted in the army reserve in 1937. His service activities were limited because of lifelong severe myopia.

 

[bird]

Reagan enlisted in the army reserve in 1937. His service activities were limited because of lifelong severe myopia.

If his vision was 20/200 and correctable to 20/40 with glasses then he could have served at the front.

 

[MT15]

ProPublica has obtained training videos prepared by Project 2025 authors.

Inside Project 2025’s Secret Training Videos

“Eradicate climate change references”; only talk to conservative media; don’t leave a paper trail for watchdogs to discover. In a series of never-before-published videos, Project 2025 details how a second Trump administration would operate.

www.propublica.org

 

[LovesMusic7360]

For background and context, I'm white, male, heterosexual, cis, and was raised Catholic. I'm railing against the dangers posed by my "own tribe." These guys must be stopped.

If Trump wins, there will be mass incarceration to provide slave labor and mass murder to eliminate the undesirables who are of no use.

Here's the worst part, if Trump loses, then the Heritage Foundation will just change the name to Project 2029 and be ready to pounce if a Republican wins in 2029.

Unless there are drastic changes, any and all Republicans who win the Republican nomination will support this Christo fascist authoritarianism. So unless there are drastic changes throughout the Republican party, the next time a Republican is elected president, our democracy will die and millions will suffer both here and abroad.

One day in the bush boy years I tried to think of the last decent republican president.

The last sort of decent republican president was Eisenhower. Though he left our nation in recession and helped build that military industrial complex he warned the nation about in his final speech.

Ever since Eisenhower, republican presidents have progressively gotten worse.

I realized then that the next republican president would be worse than the bush boy but at the time couldn't imagine what was worse and didn't want to find out.

Unfortunately we found out.

The next republican president will be worse than convicted felon trump. Even if he is reelected. Those 4 years will make his first 4 years look like a cake walk.

Yes whether it's convicted felon trump or another republican, they will be worse than the first four years of convicted felon trump and it will destroy our nation.

Think about all the republican presidents of the 20 century and thus far in the 21st century. Each one was worse than the one before.

With the exceptions of Eisenhower and Theodore Roosevelt. Roosevelt was the last good republican president. He had his faults, just like every human but he worked for the good of our people and nation. He left our nation better off than before he was president. Roosevelt is the only republican president that I can think of in the 20th century that left our nation better than before he was president.

 

[LovesMusic7360]

I realize that, Trump isn’t the long term issue here, there will be another like him for sure….but this is more about the immediate issue at hand…..one step at a time….the cult members that comprise most of the R party aren’t going anywhere, the only hope is that some die off and women come out in record numbers to vote going forward…..

A good portion of the Republican Party is now old and dying at high rates.

Add into that the fact that the republicans refused to take any precautions to not get covid and die. They refused to wear a mask and social distance. They refused to get tested and isolate if they were covid positive. They refused to get vaccinated.

As a result, convicted felon trump supporters died at a much higher rate than democrats and independents.

What we have to watch for and combat is republican cheating. Republican election boards refusing to certify the election and other cheating ploys the republicans have put in place. Including vote suppression.

I can tell you, women aren't ticked off anymore.

Women are seriously and extremely PISSED OFF now. I know men don't hear about certain things but women do. Women know that in red states the infant and women mortality rates have gone sky high. Women know that in red states pregnancy is now literally a matter of life and death. Women know that in red states they will be forced to either die or nearly die and lose their fertility if their pregnancy goes wrong.

Women started seriously organizing when convicted felon trump won in 2016. Since then because of women republicans and convicted felon trump have lost:

2018
2020
2022
2023
Most of the special elections in 2024

Convicted felon trump has won ONE election and that is because women have prevented him from winning another election.

The overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade and that women who get abortions must be punished. Nor is that same majority of women going to vote for a forced birth politician.

 

[LovesMusic7360]

There's a big deception that is a big tell in what Roberts, representing the Heritage Foundation, said in that interview. He falsely insinuated that the approximately 11 million unauthorized immigrants here in the US are from countries "south of the border." While most of them are from countries south of the border, a high percentage and number of them are from other countries.

For instance:

What we know about unauthorized immigrants living in the U.S.

The unauthorized immigrant population in the U.S. grew to 11 million in 2022, but remained below the peak of 12.2 million in 2007.

www.pewresearch.org

The Heritage Foundation's deception shows that all their unauthorized immigration concern is racist and classist hate mongering. They don't say peep about those from India, Asia, or Europe. Nope, it's just them damn brownies from south of the border.

Don't be fooled though. If Trump wins the election and they get their way, they'll round up every black, brown, yellow and white sympathizer and shove them in forced labor camps to literally work to death. It's what fascists do. And they won't stop at just unauthorized residents. They'll go after natural born citizens too, because in their minds the only true citizens are the white, Christian, male, cis and heterosexual citizens. Everyone else are just servants who live or die at their pleasure.

This is not an exaggeration. These people bring oppression and mass murder with them if Trump wins the election. They admire and idolize brutal and ruthless authoritarians, because that's exactly who they are.

Trump winning gives them the power they want to oppress and mass murder the "evil" people. Please do not give them power by voting for anyone other than Biden. They are not counting on you voting for Trump to seize power, they are counting on you not voting for Biden, by voting for someone else or not voting at all.

Hold your breath, pinch your noise, eat a spoon of sugar or whatever else you have to do to make voting for Biden palatable for you, because American freedom relies on it.

Just two things I would like to point out and I wish I could say it to the crazy man from the heritage foundation:

The minute a person comes to our border then surrenders to a federal border agent to claim asylum, then is processed and given a court date to determine if they can stay, is documented and in our nation legally.

Last, using the logic of that crazy man from the heritage foundation, every American who commits murder should be removed from our nation.

A personal note, I find it disgusting that the crazy man from the heritage foundation doesn't give a flying fig about the millions of Americans who were murdered by their fellow American.

 

[LovesMusic7360]

This is the result of not voting,

 

[Huntn]

One day in the bush boy years I tried to think of the last decent republican president.

The last sort of decent republican president was Eisenhower. Though he left our nation in recession and helped build that military industrial complex he warned the nation about in his final speech.

Ever since Eisenhower, republican presidents have progressively gotten worse.

I realized then that the next republican president would be worse than the bush boy but at the time couldn't imagine what was worse and didn't want to find out.

Unfortunately we found out.

The next republican president will be worse than convicted felon trump. Even if he is reelected. Those 4 years will make his first 4 years look like a cake walk.

Yes whether it's convicted felon trump or another republican, they will be worse than the first four years of convicted felon trump and it will destroy our nation.

Think about all the republican presidents of the 20 century and thus far in the 21st century. Each one was worse than the one before.

With the exceptions of Eisenhower and Theodore Roosevelt. Roosevelt was the last good republican president. He had his faults, just like every human but he worked for the good of our people and nation. He left our nation better off than before he was president. Roosevelt is the only republican president that I can think of in the 20th century that left our nation better than before he was president.

Bush Sr in the spectrum of bad was not so bad, but he left Eastern Airlines hanging out to dry as “just business”, this is when I turned on Republicans as a party, and it’s been down hill ever since. And in hindsight I acknowledge all the awe fullness that was Ronnie Reagan. He and the GOP where the ones who got the National debt ball rolling big time, in the name of fiscal conservatism of course.

 

[Huntn]

This is the result of not voting,

Hey, looks like Donnie is driving!