We Need to Talk About Trump's Project 2025 & Trump's Manifesto "Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise" (1 Viewer)

[LA - L.A.]

I think Trump's Project 2025 needs it's own thread to make as many people as possible aware of it, how Trump and the people he's surrounded himself with are dead serious about making it happen, and how devastating it will be if we allow Trump to make it happen. These are the various pages on his website which should show Trump means business. Trump's not just wishing or theorizing, he's planning and implementing.

Trump and his minion's home page (the bolding is their's, not mine):

Project 2025 | Presidential Transition Project

Presidential Transition Project The 2025 Presidential Transition Project paves the way for an effective conservative Administration based on four pillars.

www.project2025.org

"It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration.​

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This is the goal of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project. The project will build on four pillars that will, collectively, pave the way for an effective conservative Administration."​

Trump's policy agenda page:

Policy | Project 2025

This book is the product of more than 400 scholars and policy experts from across the conservative movement and around the country. Contributors include former elected officials, world-renowned economists, and veterans from four presidential Administrations. This is an agenda prepared by and for...

www.project2025.org

"This book is an invitation for you the reader—Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, and Ms. Smith—to come to Washington or support those who can. Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.​

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The next conservative President will enter office on January 20, 2025, with a simple choice: greatness or failure. It will be a daunting test, but no more so than every other generation of Americans has faced and passed. The Conservative Promise represents the best effort of the conservative movement in 2023—and the next conservative President’s last opportunity to save our republic."​

Trump's personnel (recruitment/application) page, bolding is mine:

Personnel | Project 2025

Please fill out the questionnaire below and upload your resume for inclusion in the Presidential Personnel Database if you would like to be considered for positions in a presidential Administration. Project 2025 is the effort of a massive coalition of conservative organizations that have come...

www.project2025.org

"Please fill out the questionnaire below and upload your resume for inclusion in the Presidential Personnel Database if you would like to be considered for positions in a presidential Administration.​

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Project 2025 is the effort of a massive coalition of conservative organizations that have come together to ensure a successful Administration begins in January 2025. With the right conservative policy recommendations and properly vetted and trained personnel to implement them, we will take back our government. Project 2025 is being organized by The Heritage Foundation."​

Trump's training page:

Training | Project 2025

The Presidential Administration Academy is a one-of-a-kind educational and skill-building program designed to prepare and equip future political appointees now to be ready on Day One of the next conservative Administration. This academy provides aspiring appointees with the insight, background...

www.project2025.org

"The Presidential Administration Academy is a one-of-a-kind educational and skill-building program designed to prepare and equip future political appointees now to be ready on Day One of the next conservative Administration. This academy provides aspiring appointees with the insight, background knowledge, and expertise in governance to immediately begin rolling back destructive policy and advancing conservative ideas in the federal government."​

Trump's first 180 days playbook page:

Playbook | Project 2025

The fourth pillar of Project 2025 is our 180-day Transition Playbook and includes a comprehensive, concrete transition plan for each federal agency. Only through the implementation of specific action plans at each agency will the next conservative presidential Administration be successful...

www.project2025.org

"The time is short, and conservatives need a plan. The project will create a playbook of actions to be taken in the first 180 days of the new Administration to bring quick relief to Americans suffering from the Left’s devastating policies."​

Trump's playbook, bolding mine (I've downloaded the pdf of their playbook for when Trump eventually pulls it from his website once the backlash really kicks in):

https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

"This book is an invitation for you the reader—Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, and Ms. Smith—to come to Washington or support those who can. Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.​

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This is an agenda prepared by and for conservatives who will be ready on Day One of the next Administration to save our country. The Heritage Foundation is once again facilitating this work, but as our dozens of partners and hundreds of authors will attest, this book is the work of the entire conservative movement.​

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The next conservative President will enter office on January 20, 2025 ... The Conservative Promise represents the best effort of the conservative movement in 2023—and the next conservative President’s last opportunity to save our republic."​

The link to the 111 groups Trump and his minions have cobbled together in a coalition to help Trump achieve his agenda.

Advisory Board | Project 2025

GET INVOLVED Does your organization want to join us in the fight for our country? Join Us

www.project2025.org

Groups include:​

• ALEC - the Koch brother's foundation that has written all of the state laws that undermine child labor protection, worker's rights, air and water pollution protections, voter's rights, government assistance programs from those that need the help, and tax codes that made sure the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes.
• Moms For Liberty - the group leading the charge to ban any book that treats anyone, who is not white, heterosexual, cis and Christian, as being equal and deserving of acceptance, tolerance and respect.
• National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation - which works for corporations to prevent and bust worker's unions to help corporations pay a non living wage to employees and force them to work under horrible conditions.
• Tea Party Patriots - the group that is MAGA and has taken control of the Republican party and supports Trump's efforts to stage a coup on Jan 6th so that he could stay in power even though he lost the election.
• Turning Point USA - run by Charlie Kirk who fully embraces Christian Nationalism and the reducing of women to just being homemakers dedicated only to serving their husbands and their family, in that order

Here are some articles and videos that give an overview of what Trump's Project 2025 plans to do if Trump wins the presidency:

What Is Project 2025?

If you were on Twitter or TikTok over the weekend, you might have seen people talking about Project 2025.

time.com

Conservative groups draw up plan to dismantle the US government and replace it with Trump’s vision

With more than a year to go before the 2024 election, a constellation of conservative organizations is preparing for a possible second White House term for Donald Trump.

apnews.com

What is Project 2025? Wish list for a Trump presidency, explained

A conservative think tank set out a sweeping vision for governing that could influence Trump's next term.

www.bbc.com

Inside the MAGA Plan to Attack Birth Control, Surveil Women and Ban the Abortion Pill

Republicans’ Project 2025 plan would leverage virtually every arm, tool and agency of the federal government to attack abortion.

www.rollingstone.com

Project 2025, the far-right agenda for a second Trump administration, explained - The Boston Globe

There is growing alarm about the sweeping plan, which opponents have called a “dystopian plot,” “far-right manifesto,” and “blueprint for destroying our democracy.”

www.bostonglobe.com

A guide to Project 2025, the extreme right-wing agenda for the next Republican administration

Project 2025, a comprehensive transition plan organized by right-wing think tank The Heritage Foundation to guide the next GOP presidential administration, is the conservative movement’s most robust policy and staffing proposal for a potential second Trump White House — and its extreme agenda...

www.mediamatters.org

The Heritage Foundation cooked up this plan during the Reagan administration, but Reagan didn't let the Heritage Foundation fully implement it. Trump has claimed it for himself and has made it his plan, because it plays into the ultimate power and control that Trump wants. See the videos below.









No matter how annoying, frustrating, distasteful, or unappealing it may be, either Biden or Trump will be the next president. No one else has a chance at winning the election. If Biden wins, we have issues to solve, but we still have our democracy.

If Trump wins, we lose our democracy and have to fight for our freedom, if we aren't white, Christian, cis, heterosexual men who believe in the divine right of white, Christian, cis, heterosexual men to sit in domination over all others.

The bottom line is this, vote for Biden if you want to preserve our democracy, or don't vote for Biden if you want to chance Trump winning, which would bring an end to our democracy.

That's the grounded-in-reality choice folks, like it or not. Please vote for Biden so that we all have the freedom to live our lives how we want, to argue with each other, and to protest without fear of being imprisoned or "falling" out of window to our death.

This election is not a drill, it's the real deal.

 

[Huntn]

we know if his idiot followers embraced 2025 he would be toting it out every chance he gets.

Yeah, if they’d pause for a moment from sipping Orange Koolaid, and look what’s in there, we might see some flight.

 

[Farb]

I don't judge people as fine or not. I judge their actions instead. There is nothing fine about the actions that Trump and his minions have laid out in Trump's Project 2025 plans. It's completely fascist, oppressive, and anti-American.

If Trump wins, he and his minions will enact Trump's Project 2025 and destroy America as we all know it. You may think that's fine, but the overwhelming majority of us Americans do not think there's anything the least bit fine about it.

You're not as witty or clever as you seem to think you are. Not saying, just saying.

You know you are lying about "trump's 2025" or you might actually believe it since the media has told you either way, it is a conspiracy theory that has not base in reality but you also probably still believe the 'very fine people', Russia gate and the laptop lie that they also fed you.

On a side note, I would love it if Trump came in and did implement project 2025, every chapter of it. He won't. Trump is a moderate and I wish he was far more conservative but here we are.

 

[coldseat]

You know you are lying about "trump's 2025" or you might actually believe it since the media has told you either way, it is a conspiracy theory that has not base in reality but you also probably still believe the 'very fine people', Russia gate and the laptop lie that they also fed you.

On a side note, I would love it if Trump came in and did implement project 2025, every chapter of it. He won't. Trump is a moderate and I wish he was far more conservative but here we are.

Not based in reality?

Clearly you don't know what reality is. They published the whole freaking plan themselves. Run from it all you like, we're still going to make you own it.

Plus, everything you have advocated for on this board in Project 2025, but it's not the right wing's playbook. Lol

 

[SaintRob]

I would love it if Trump came in and did implement project 2025, every chapter of it.

Tell me you hate America without telling me you hate America.

 

[superchuck500]

On a side note, I would love it if Trump came in and did implement project 2025, every chapter of it. He won't. Trump is a moderate and I wish he was far more conservative but here we are.

He can’t

 

[Nebaghead]

You know you are lying about "trump's 2025" or you might actually believe it since the media has told you either way, it is a conspiracy theory that has not base in reality but you also probably still believe the 'very fine people', Russia gate and the laptop lie that they also fed you.

On a side note, I would love it if Trump came in and did implement project 2025, every chapter of it. He won't. Trump is a moderate and I wish he was far more conservative but here we are.

Farb officially declares he is a Facist and a Racist. Glad it’s official and we don’t have to insinuate.

 

[LA - L.A.]

You know you are lying...

I'm not lying about Trump's Project 2025 being Trump's plan. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not, it's still the truth.

...you might actually believe it since the media has told you...

You're psychologically projecting yourself onto me. I did the research for myself and determined for myself that the truth is that Trump's Project 2025 plan was written for Trump and is exactly what Trump will do if he wins. I don't just believe or regurgitate what people tell me. That's what you do.

...I would love it if Trump came in and did implement project 2025, every chapter of it.

Of course you would love it, because it's a fascist manifesto and Trump will definitely do almost all of it if he wins.

 

[LA - L.A.]

He can’t

If Trump wins, he can enact a lot of the very destructive and oppressive stuff using only the power of the Executive Branch. There are several judges and justices that seem more than willing to let Trump do stuff that falls outside the power of the Executive Branch.

Trump's Project 2025 is a dangerous plan and Trump really will act on it if he wins. To tell ourselves otherwise is a grave mistake.

 

[superchuck500]

If Trump wins, he can enact a lot of the very destructive and oppressive stuff using only the power of the Executive Branch. There are several judges and justices that seem more than willing to let Trump do stuff that falls outside the power of the Executive Branch.

Trump's Project 2025 is a dangerous plan and Trump really will act on it if he wins. To tell ourselves otherwise is a grave mistake.

I get this sentiment - and why people feel compelled to take it very seriously. But I just don't. Donald Trump has a pretty weak record of getting anything done, he's just not much of a leader when it comes to actual execution. In his first term, he actually had a fairly capable staff and cabinet for a time, and he had Congress for two years - but he's terrible at staying focused and he values loyalty far more than effectiveness . Getting things accomplished is not a priority for him. . . and if he were to win, he would be lame duck from day 1 and clearly committed to a staff of wildly inexperienced goofballs. Vivek Ramaswamy and RFK Jr. have demonstrated over and over that they don't have a clue how the federal government actually operates.

And Congress? This batch of GOP in Congress are literally leading the modern history books for getting the least amount done - and it's unlikely that they would form the kind of majority required to start dismantling the statutory framework of the executive branch. Project 2025 has been around for years in other forms - its leaders are not particularly impressive. And few district judges and a rebel 5th Circuit aren't going save this gang of weak outsiders in their efforts to dramatically overhaul the US Government.

Yes, I think some of it can be done fairly unilaterally within the executive branch - but even that requires skillful execution. I don't there's realistic chance of statutory overhaul and despite what people convince themselves of, I don't think that the conservative federal judiciary is on board. Do we really think the same Supreme Court that just struck down Chevron is going to find a majority to allow a rouge president to start unilaterally dismantling offices and programs required by federal statute? I just don't.

Don't get me wrong, I think terrible and unconstitutional ideas should be criticized and energetically resisted because they're terrible and unconstitutional. But I'm not ready to quake in the assumption that Trump winning means P25 gets implemented because I see some serious hurdles that I don't think he is capable of clearing no matter the enthusiasm. And I don't think Trump really cares much one way or the other - he's not really that committed to any of it ideologically, his interests are purely self-gratification.

But I'm an institutionalist, of course I see it this way. Maybe I'm being a fool.

 

[LA - L.A.]

I get this sentiment - and why people feel compelled to take it very seriously. But I just don't. Donald Trump has a pretty weak record of getting anything done, he's just not much of a leader when it comes to actual execution.

Trump's second term won't be like his first. The biggest thing that curtailed Trump during his first term was his own staff. Those people will not be there again. The very first step in Trump's Project 2025 plan is to load the government with people loyal to him first.

The Heritage Foundation is already conducting interviews and training to implement that first step of purging civil servants and loading the government with Trump loyalists on day one. Trump let The Heritage Foundation map out Trump's Project 2025 and he will let them implement it. That's the same group of people that over the course of a few decades stacked the Supreme Court with their handpicked justices, the very same justices overturning all kinds of precedent that protect people and keep corporations in check. The Heritage Foundation people are very competent and they will start effectively executing Trump's Project 2025 on day damn one.

The reason Trump will let The Heritage Foundation run his administration is because they are shrewd enough to make everything they do be centered around showing admiration and loyalty to Trump on the surface. As long as they do that, Trump will let them do whatever they want. The Heritage Foundation knows that and will exploit that with deadly efficiency.

This is 2024 and Trump has a much more competent supporting team behind him than the buffoons he had in 2016 and he won't have any "adults in the room" to act as guardrails like he did in his first term. It's a grave mistake to think that a second Trump term will be just as ineffective as his first.

I don't think you're being a fool at all. I do think you overlook the fact that institutions are ultimately people. If you put a bunch of fascist in charge of any institution, then that institution will end up doing fascist things. Just having a democratic system of institutions does not protect democracy from fascists if the fascists are given power within those institutions. A lot of the institutional safeguards have already been weakened and eroded. If Trump wins, his administration will completely demolish them if there isn't an armed resistance that stops him.

 

[Taurus]

I get this sentiment - and why people feel compelled to take it very seriously. But I just don't. Donald Trump has a pretty weak record of getting anything done, he's just not much of a leader when it comes to actual execution. In his first term, he actually had a fairly capable staff and cabinet for a time, and he had Congress for two years - but he's terrible at staying focused and he values loyalty far more than effectiveness . Getting things accomplished is not a priority for him. . . and if he were to win, he would be lame duck from day 1 and clearly committed to a staff of wildly inexperienced goofballs. Vivek Ramaswamy and RFK Jr. have demonstrated over and over that they don't have a clue how the federal government actually operates.

And Congress? This batch of GOP in Congress are literally leading the modern history books for getting the least amount done - and it's unlikely that they would form the kind of majority required to start dismantling the statutory framework of the executive branch. Project 2025 has been around for years in other forms - its leaders are not particularly impressive. And few district judges and a rebel 5th Circuit aren't going save this gang of weak outsiders in their efforts to dramatically overhaul the US Government.

Yes, I think some of it can be done fairly unilaterally within the executive branch - but even that requires skillful execution. I don't there's realistic chance of statutory overhaul and despite what people convince themselves of, I don't think that the conservative federal judiciary is on board. Do we really think the same Supreme Court that just struck down Chevron is going to find a majority to allow a rouge president to start unilaterally dismantling offices and programs required by federal statute? I just don't.

Don't get me wrong, I think terrible and unconstitutional ideas should be criticized and energetically resisted because they're terrible and unconstitutional. But I'm not ready to quake in the assumption that Trump winning means P25 gets implemented because I see some serious hurdles that I don't think he is capable of clearing no matter the enthusiasm. And I don't think Trump really cares much one way or the other - he's not really that committed to any of it ideologically, his interests are purely self-gratification.

But I'm an institutionalist, of course I see it this way. Maybe I'm being a fool.

Counting on anything a court says, including SCOTUS, to stop Cheato is a bit naive, if not foolish. His whole schtick is "What if I do it anyway?" and making his opponents stop him, like...physically stop him.

 

[LovesMusic7360]

I read it, I just wanted to be sure before I engaged with you if you actually thought that was Trumps agenda, which, you probably know it is not, but I get it. Conspiracy theories are fun.

Agenda 47 is and it's not much different from project 2025.

Agenda 47 is convicted felon trump's document he and his team wrote for a second term as president.

A Tale of Two Agendas: Comparing Trump's Agenda 47 and the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025

Exploring the Striking Similarities and Strategic Goals of Two Conservative Blueprints for America's Future

thepettyauntie.substack.com

Conclusion
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As we delve into the details of Trump's Agenda 47 and the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025, it becomes clear that both plans are united in their goal to reshape America's governmental landscape significantly. They focus on consolidating executive power, reducing federal oversight, and implementing conservative policies across various sectors. While the political arena remains divided, these plans present a clear vision for the future that supporters argue will strengthen America, while critics warn of increased authoritarianism and reduced civil liberties. As these agendas continue to be debated, understanding their nuances is crucial for every informed citizen.

 

[UriUT]

Yeah it's not like we don't have precedence of him breaking the law. He placed his pure loyalist in the pentagon after he lost. He tried to remove the attorney general. He was prepared to declare Marshall law in anticipation of a counter protest to his Maga. All this has been revealed. We were saved from a constitutional crisis or perhaps worse because pence grew a spine. And let's not forget that we have Thomas who gave cannon that idea to throw out the top secret case. Jan 6th investigation had one of trump's lawyers stating they had one justice in his pocket during their strategy session. Alito? Mr heritage? It's not hard to fathom how they strong armed the others w dobbs. Yeah...McMaster is running around now telling everyone that it wasn't trump that laid the seed for Afghanistan. It was his advisers. Yeah, I don't get that loyalty. I certainly dont expect "capable" people stopping trump from breaking laws in a second revenge term if that is the mentality.

 

[Incumbent]

Chuck, I’m sorry but I just don’t buy that GOP reps won’t vote against the best interests of their own constituents. They already do it all the time. Several states have already crippled public education with vouchers. Millions upon millions of dollars out of the state school funds.

Not to mention how many GOP reps have voted for abortion bans that actually endanger women’s lives and reproductive health. And look at how the entire GOP congressional contingent caved on a border bill that gave them nearly everything they wanted because Trump told them to kill it. And Trump isn’t even in office.

If Trump wins, and manages to get his sycophants into positions throughout government, what makes you think the GOP legislators would stand up to him at that point? Haven’t done it yet.

This is exactly what happened in Texas. Abbott went to war with Republicans who didn’t support his hallmark voucher legislation. I believe nine of them lost outright in the primaries, and another six of eight were defeated in runoffs. It’s believed he will now have the votes to enact his devastating attack on the public education system in Texas.

 

[efil4]

His whole schtick is "What if I do it anyway?" and making his opponents stop him, like...physically stop him.

See Arlington not 5 days ago.

Reminds my of Dave Chappelle's joke with his buddy "Chip" - "Sorry officer, i didnt know i couldnt do that" ( OK you are free to go- but SLOW DOWN )

"you know what Dave? I DID know i couldnt do that -Ahhhhhahahaha"

 

[UriUT]

This is exactly what happened in Texas. Abbott went to war with Republicans who didn’t support his hallmark voucher legislation. I believe nine of them lost outright in the primaries, and another six of eight were defeated in runoffs. It’s believed he will now have the votes to enact his devastating attack on the public education system in Texas.

The recent raid on Hispanic activists has to spark an outcry from that community? Perhaps a repeat of California democratic turn when California Republicans passed that prop 187? I hope? Bc these Republicans are out of their minds.

 

[bdb13]

Counting on anything a court says, including SCOTUS, to stop Cheato is a bit naive, if not foolish. His whole schtick is "What if I do it anyway?" and making his opponents stop him, like...physically stop him.

Yep post-election 2020 was exactly this.. " yeah they say it's over and I have to stop but fork that, let's just see what happens."

 

[LovesMusic7360]

Cool. So where does he endorse or say anything project 2025, besides distance himself from it?

As for your other quotes, I like them and agree with them.

Federal Workforce
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Agenda 47 (Trump's Plan): Reissuing 'Schedule F' to reclassify federal employees as at-will employees, making it easier to fire them. This is seen as a loyalty strategy.

Project 2025 (Heritage Foundation's Plan): Proposes reclassifying federal employees to facilitate their removal and ensure loyalty.

Similarity: Both plans aim to reclassify federal employees to make it easier to fire those involved in policy decisions. Increased executive power is a central theme.

Executive Power
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Agenda 47: Expanding executive power by consolidating control over the federal bureaucracy.

Project 2025: Concentrating power in the Executive branch and purging career civil servants.

Similarity: Both plans seek to increase executive power and centralize control within the White House.

Immigration
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Agenda 47: Enacting strict immigration policies, including mass deportations and border security measures.

Project 2025: Implementing the largest domestic deportation operation in U.S. history and enhancing border security.

Similarity: Both plans emphasize strict immigration enforcement and large-scale deportations. Increased federal interaction and executive power are focal points.

Education
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Agenda 47: Eliminating the Department of Education and promoting school choice through vouchers.

Project 2025: Removing federal oversight of education and promoting school vouchers.

Similarity: Both plans advocate for dismantling the Department of Education and increasing school choice options. Increased executive power is evident.

Deregulation
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Agenda 47: Rolling back regulations on businesses and reducing environmental protections.

Project 2025: Dismantling environmental regulations and promoting fossil fuel interests.

Similarity: Both plans focus on deregulating industries and reducing environmental protections. Increased executive power is a recurring theme.

Civil Rights
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Agenda 47: Rolling back protections for LGBTQ+ individuals and restricting gender-affirming care.

Project 2025: Eliminating anti-discrimination protections and banning gender-affirming care.

Similarity: Both plans aim to reduce civil rights protections for LGBTQ+ individuals.

Healthcare
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Agenda 47: Expanding Medicare Advantage and reducing government involvement in healthcare.

Project 2025: Promoting privatized healthcare options and reducing government healthcare programs.

Similarity: Both plans support the privatization of healthcare and reducing government-provided healthcare services.

Abortion and Contraception
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Agenda 47: Restricting access to abortion and contraception.

Project 2025: Implementing federal laws against mailing abortion pills and restricting access to contraception.

Similarity: Both plans seek to restrict access to abortion and contraception.

Trade and Tariffs
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Agenda 47: Imposing tariffs to protect American industries and renegotiating trade deals.

Project 2025: Implementing trade policies that protect American industries from foreign competition.

Similarity: Both plans prioritize protecting American industries through tariffs and trade policies. Significant government intervention in the market is a shared approach.

Law Enforcement
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Agenda 47: Increasing funding and support for law enforcement agencies. "Defund the FBI".

Project 2025: Proposing significant changes to DOJ and FBI, focusing on loyalty and alignment with executive priorities.

Similarity: Both plans emphasize restructuring law enforcement agencies to align with executive priorities. Increased executive power is a key theme.