US/Israel and Iran- (9 Viewers)

[efil4]

Thought we should start thread here - over weekend, US carried out strikes against Houthi elements in Yemen in retaliation for their actions in Red Sea.



Houthi leader issued this statement- no US ships in Red Sea


Houthis then attempted to strike US Carrier group

This morning Trump took to Truth Social:



So any missile/shot fired from Houthi elements in Yemen will be considered coming from Iran. Obviously this is wrought with problems, but we know Houthis will respond and continue attacks.

So then what does this mean for Iran? Lots to unpack, but seems to me that the NO WAR POTUS is hell bent on getting into yet ANOTHER conflict in the ME. He is backing himself into a corner with statements and we could find ourselves embroiled in ME conflict again.

 

[efil4]

Middle East crisis live: Trump calls on China, France, UK and others to send ships to keep strait of Hormuz open — Guardian US

US president earlier warned strikes on Kharg Island oil facilities would follow hit on military targets if Tehran did not allow maritime traffic through key channel

apple.news

Then that would be a World War.

 

[superchuck500]

Hegseth declaring No Quarter is, itself, a war crime

 

[Heathen]

 

[Neworleansfan]

Yeah, Bringing up ‘genetic differences’ was on purpose. That was code for their supporters.

 

[MT15]

Imagine if Joe sent Hunter to the ME to negotiate with Iran, despite having no real diplomacy training or skills. Now imagine if Hunter was also soliciting cash for his investment fund while he was supposed to be negotiating. It’s a good thing that didn’t happen, a couple of members here would be apoplectic.

White House must reveal and resolve Jared Kushner's financial conflicts of interest - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Jared Kushner must file his legally required public financial disclosure report within 30 days of his appointment as Special Envoy for Peace.

www.citizensforethics.org

And yet they’re not are they? Never bring it up. That’s how you know they have different standards for one political party over another.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I don’t even know what to say
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A political action committee linked to Donald Trump used a photo of the president saluting a dead soldier’s casket in a fundraising email, prompting backlash from several Democratic officials and veterans groups.

The message, sent Thursday and paid for by Never Surrender Inc., advertises a new “National Security Briefing Membership” and includes multiple donation links.

The message included an image of Trump saluting during last week’s dignified transfer ceremony for six U.S. service members who were killed during an Iranian drone attack in Kuwait.

“As a National Security Briefing Member, you'll receive my private national security briefings, unfiltered updates on the threats facing America,” the email reads.

“The straight truth on border invasions, foreign adversaries, deep state sabotage, and every danger the fake news hides.”

The White House originally shared the photoby photographer Daniel Torok on X last week.

“The six fallen warriors represent the very best of America, giving everything in service to our country,” the White House wrote. “Their service and sacrifice will never be forgotten.”

Government officials were quick to criticize the email on social media……..

Trump-linked PAC sends fundraising email using photo from dignified transfer

Several fundraising messages from Trump-connected groups have invoked Iran war to raise money for his campaigns

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Dragon]

And yet they’re not are they? Never bring it up. That’s how you know they have different standards for one political party over another.

Where are all those who claimed that Hunter was corrupt because he earned 100K while actually working as a private citizent employee for Burisma? You know those who kept saying that close family members should avoid any kind of look of impropriety. And yet complete silence when Trumps son in law as an official envoy uses his position to solicit funds for his personal company?

 

[TampaJoe]

Where are all those who claimed that Hunter was corrupt because he earned 100K while actually working as a private citizent employee for Burisma? You know those who kept saying that close family members should avoid any kind of look of impropriety. And yet complete silence when Trumps son in law as an official envoy uses his position to solicit funds for his personal company?

And I still say that. Said it all along. I’ll say it about the Trumps. So I’m consistent. It is the folks on the left that condemn it if it is from the right and look the other way when it’s from the left.

It’s all corrupt. Talk about situational ethical standards.

 

[MT15]

And I still say that. Said it all along. I’ll say it about the Trumps. So I’m consistent. It is the folks on the left that condemn it if it is from the right and look the other way when it’s from the left.

It’s all corrupt. Talk about situational ethical standards.

If Biden had done this - or nearly anything Trump has done - I would be calling for his impeachment.

Do you think Trump has committed impeachable offenses? Do you think Trump should be impeached?

 

[Dragon]

And I still say that. Said it all along. I’ll say it about the Trumps. So I’m consistent. It is the folks on the left that condemn it if it is from the right and look the other way when it’s from the left.

It’s all corrupt. Talk about situational ethical standards.

Funny the only time that you are critical about the Trumps is when someone points out the double standard on this board. On the other hand you made more than 50 posts about Hunter - without a word about Jared or Ivanka unless called out about it.

 

[TampaJoe]

Funny the only time that you are critical about the Trumps is when someone points out the double standard on this board. On the other hand you made more than 50 posts about Hunter - without a word about Jared or Ivanka unless called out about it.

So what do you say Dragon? Is the self dealing corrupt? Do you condemn it all or do you want to pick and choose? Cause if you are going to condemn it on the one hand and look the other way on the other then it is you who has the double standard.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

So what do you say Dragon? Is the self dealing corrupt? Do you condemn it all or do you want to pick and choose? Cause if you are going to condemn it on the one hand and look the other way on the other then it is you who has the double standard.

You know, I have long believed that in order to be a true Republican, you must have zero integrity.

I condemn it all!!! I won't condemn Hunter because he did not engage in the "self-dealing" you guys accused him of doing. There're both Congressional and court records that prove my statement to be true. It's pathetic that you are equating the dealings of the Trump siblings to that of Hunter. It just shows that you are indeed a true Republican.

 

[CoolBrees]

There is a massive difference between trading on your name and using the access it gives you - which Hunter did and is what is done every day across the world - and what Kushner and Trump are doing.

It’s the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing it.

 

[MT15]

There is a massive difference between trading on your name and using the access it gives you - which Hunter did and is what is done every day across the world - and what Kushner and Trump are doing.

It’s the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing it.

He has to desperately pretend they are the same - otherwise he cannot keep up his premise that he doesn’t like corruption.

The reality is he will complain bitterly about the mere appearance of impropriety for Dems, but he cannot even say - on an anonymous message board - that Trump has done corrupt acts that are impeachable.

 

[barbar]

So what do you say Dragon? Is the self dealing corrupt? Do you condemn it all or do you want to pick and choose? Cause if you are going to condemn it on the one hand and look the other way on the other then it is you who has the double standard.

That is rich. Hilarious even.

 

[efil4]

Trump starts war without allies. Iran closes Strait.
Now Trump telling allies that rely on Iran oil, keeping the Strait open now your responsibility, but we will help.

This is unreal.

 

[TampaJoe]

You know, I have long believed that in order to be a true Republican, you must have zero integrity.

I condemn it all!!! I won't condemn Hunter because he did not engage in the "self-dealing" you guys accused him of doing. There're both Congressional and court records that prove my statement to be true. It's pathetic that you are equating the dealings of the Trump siblings to that of Hunter. It just shows that you are indeed a true Republican.

Really. Both sons of the President profiting off the relationship with the full knowledge of POTUS. Now is it illegal? No. But is it ethical? Does either POTUS benefit directly or indirectly? I dunno. Probably.

So tell me DJ. What’s the difference.