Trump loyalists in Congress to challenge Electoral College results in Jan. 6 joint session (Update: Insurrectionists storm Congress)(And now what?) (1 Viewer)

[superchuck500]

I guess it's time to start a thread for this. We know that at least 140 members of Congress have pledged to join the objection. Under federal law, if at least one member of each house (HOR and Senate) objects, each house will adjourn the joint session for their own session (limited at two hours) to take up the objection. If both houses pass a resolution objecting to the EC result, further action can take place. If both houses do not (i.e. if one or neither passes a resolution), the objection is powerless and the college result is certified.

Clearly this is political theater as we know such a resolution will not pass the House, and there's good reason to think it wouldn't pass the Senate either (with or without the two senators from Georgia). The January 6 joint session is traditionally a ceremonial one. This one will not be.

Many traditional pillars of Republican support have condemned the plan as futile and damaging. Certainly the Trump loyalists don't care - and many are likely doing it for fundraising purposes or to carry weight with the fraction of their constituencies that think this is a good idea.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf

 

[Optimus Prime]

The Nazi's easily duped the Germans with their false flag attack on the German capitol. They easily controlled the false narrative.

Trump and his Republicans have done nothing but fail for over 4 years to rewrite and control the narrative of the attack on the Capitol and our democracy. That's one of the reasons I'm confident that try as they may and try as they might, Trump and his Republicans will never be able to get their fascist takeover to take full flight.

From you certain point of view you can argue that it didn’t fail at all

In another time no one even remotely involved with Jan 6th or the rhetoric that led to it would have been allowed to continue in politics, and absolutely wouldn’t be re elected

There should have been shameful resignations, impeachments or at the very least stripped of any committees then voted out

What we got was ‘lot of love and peace on that day’ ‘just a tourist visit getting a little out of hand’ ‘patriots who love their country so much’

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

From you certain point of view you can argue that it didn’t fail at all

In another time no one even remotely involved with Jan 6th or the rhetoric that led to it would have been allowed to continue in politics, and absolutely wouldn’t be re elected

There should have been shameful resignations, impeachments or at the very least stripped of any committees then voted out

What we got was ‘lot of love and peace on that day’ ‘just a tourist visit getting a little out of hand’ ‘patriots who love their country so much’

I agree that's a valid perspective and it's right down there with the Civil War, McCarthyism, Jim Crow and the repeated federal attempts to undermine the Civil Rights movement. So what happened is bad and Trump and his Republicans have had success in sinking us more into depravity.

When looking at if from the perspective of getting a majority of society to believe an attack was other than what it was, they have failed. They have been trying desperately to get the American public to see it as not an attack and the vast majority of Americans still see it as an attack.

When looking at it from the perspective of deceiving the majority of society into willingly march into fascism and turn a blind eye to mass slavery and murder, they have failed. There is much more public resistance to Trump and his Republicans than there ever was from German society against the Nazi's.

340 something million people in the digital age are nearly impossible to manipulate the way the Nazi's did or George Orwell envisioned. To pull it off, their would have to be a singular central control over all internet activity. Trump and the Republicans don't have anything close to that. If they ever try to get it, they are going to turn almost everyone born after 1992 against them and they can't do what the Nazi's did without winning over the youth.

 

[SFIDC3]

From you certain point of view you can argue that it didn’t fail at all

In another time no one even remotely involved with Jan 6th or the rhetoric that led to it would have been allowed to continue in politics, and absolutely wouldn’t be re elected

There should have been shameful resignations, impeachments or at the very least stripped of any committees then voted out

What we got was ‘lot of love and peace on that day’ ‘just a tourist visit getting a little out of hand’ ‘patriots who love their country so much’

Yup, the more I think about it, the more I'm incensed that the Biden administration and Garland failed us, they should have eliminated any possibility that Trump could regain power and office.....I'm convinced they could have done it and vastly underestimated the MAGA movement.....and here we are.....

 

[MT15]

Another of the very fine patriots and peaceful people that Trump pardoned.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Another of the very fine patriots and peaceful people that Trump pardoned.

I almost posted this on the EE.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Audrey Southard-Rumsey pushed a flagpole into a police officer’s chest. Ralph Celentano shoved an officer over a ledge. Pauline Bauer accused Democrats of stealing an election and trafficking children and demanded: “Bring Nancy Pelosi out here now. We want to hang that forking birch.”

These are just three of the stories told on the Wall of Shame, a public installation by artist Phil Buehler that launched on 4 July in Bushwick, Brooklyn, New York.

The giant red, white and blue mural aims to document and highlight the stories and alleged crimes of more than 1,575 people involved in the January 6 2021 attack on the US Capitol who were pardoned by Donald Trump.

The project is the third in what might be called Buehler’s art against autocracy trilogy, a series of collaborations with the non-profit Radio Free Brooklyn.

It began in 2020 with the Wall of Lies, a 50ft mural displaying more than 20,000 lies told by Trump during his first term in office. The second installation, the Wall of Liars and Deniers, was a mural displaying the 381 Republican politicians running in the 2022 midterm elections who denied Democrat Joe Biden’s legitimacy as president.

“Artists can have more power than Fox News to turn this around,” Buehler says in a Zoom interview from his Brooklyn studio, reflecting on the struggle for truth in the Trump era.

“Boy, would Magaland hate it if culture, music and art [pushed back]. You’ve got to double down the other way and start flooding this zone with art as Trump tries to erase it.”

The Wall of Shame is a 50ft-long, 10ft-tall outdoor mural featuring the pardoned Trump supporters, colour-coded to distinguish their actions: violent rioters appear in red, those who damaged property are shown in blue, and the remaining individuals are depicted in white. The combined effect resembles a Star and Stripes that has imploded.

Buehler spent about 100 hours gathering the rioters’ stories, charges and sentences from research by National Public Radio (NPR) and formatting them to be printed on waterproof vinyl and hung outdoors on a fence.

NPR had about a thousand photos of the rioters, so Buehler enlisted a friend to track down a further 500 pictures; only about 10 are now missing.

He adds: “Artists can do it in a different way. I’m just presenting facts. It’s almost seducing people with a visual that they then approach and go, that’s pretty cool, what is that? Then you can read these things and we’re benefiting from NPR’s reputation having factchecked this.”……..

‘Don’t forget’: mural brings attention to the January 6 rioters pardoned by Trump

A giant new mural, titled Wall of Shame, has launched in Brooklyn, New York, to remind people of the alleged crimes committed by more than 1,500 Maga loyalists

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

A New Mexico man who was cleared of criminal charges in connection with the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol is not entitled to have the record of his arrest and trial expunged, a federal judge in Washington, D.C., has ruled.

U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden on Friday rejected the request to eradicate the record of Matthew Martin, who previously referred to the Capitol riot as a "magical day."

McFadden found Martin not guilty of multiple misdemeanors following a bench trial three years ago.

In a nine-page opinion, McFadden, who President Donald Trump appointed during his first term, reasoned that despite being "fully acquitted" of the Jan. 6 charges, federal appeals courts have previously held that an individual must show evidence that their rights were violated before a district court can consider expungement. Here, Martin did not even "allege a violation of a statutory or constitutional right," the judge wrote.

Instead, Martin asserted that his record was clean before and after the trial, he was acquitted after an adjudication on the merits, his case is associated with the "most highly publicized criminal prosecution in the country's history," and his FBI background check information is now "inaccurate and prejudicial without serving any proper purpose."...........

Judge refuses to expunge record of accused Capitol rioter despite being 'fully acquitted'

U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden refused to expunge the record of accused rioter Matthew Martin despite him being "fully acquitted" of charges.

lawandcrime.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

President Donald Trump is not done re-litigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol. And neither are his allies on Capitol Hill.

GOP Rep. Barry Loudermilk announced this week he will be leading a select subcommittee to once again investigate the incident, re-scrutinizing the work of the previous, Democrat-led Jan. 6 committee that made the case that Trump’s actions fueled violence that day.

And he told CNN it all comes at Trump’s request.

In early June, Loudermilk said, the president summoned him to the White House to understand why Republicans had not stood up a new investigation. It had been six months since the pair had spoken directly about the issue, and negotiations on Capitol Hill had been stalled for months as many in the party sought to move on.

“I got called in by the president,” Loudermilk told CNN. “We sat and talked for a while. And he was asking, ‘what is the stall?’ Because he had expected it to be done early in the year too. We talked about it, he engaged with the speaker’s office.”

Before Trump took office, he told House Speaker Mike Johnson that he wanted House Republicans to prioritize re-litigating the previous investigation into January 6, two sources familiar with the conversations told CNN. Behind the scenes, Johnson wrestled for weeks with how to implement Trump’s request while balancing moderate and vulnerable members of the GOP’s historically narrow majority who wanted the party to look ahead and focus on its agenda.............

At Trump’s insistence, GOP launches a new January 6 committee | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump is not done re-litigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol. And neither are his allies on Capitol Hill.

www.cnn.com

 

[MT15]

I remember that name. If I’m not mistaken he broke House rules Jan 5 to give a tour to a bunch of people who were very interested in taking pictures of stairwells, tunnel access points and other means of getting into and out of the building where his office is located. And when called out publicly - he lied and said he didn’t give a tour at first, then he said he gave a tour but it wasn’t weirdly of stairways and tunnels rather than normal tourist places. Then when actual footage of him giving the tour came out and it showed at least one guy photographing exits and stairwells, he was exposed for the traitorous liar he is.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

I remember that name. If I’m not mistaken he broke House rules Jan 5 to give a tour to a bunch of people who were very interested in taking pictures of stairwells, tunnel access points and other means of getting into and out of the building where his office is located. And when called out publicly - he lied and said he didn’t give a tour at first, then he said he gave a tour but it wasn’t weirdly of stairways and tunnels rather than normal tourist places. Then when actual footage of him giving the tour came out and it showed at least one guy photographing exits and stairwells, he was exposed for the traitorous liar he is.

Before one of the usual suspects whines "no proof."

Video shows GOP congressman leading tour of Capitol complex the day before Jan. 6 attack

The new footage shows Rep. Barry Loudermilk leading a group through several congressional office buildings the day before the Jan. 6 attack.

www.cbsnews.com