Trump loyalists in Congress to challenge Electoral College results in Jan. 6 joint session (Update: Insurrectionists storm Congress)(And now what?) (2 Viewers)

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    I guess it's time to start a thread for this. We know that at least 140 members of Congress have pledged to join the objection. Under federal law, if at least one member of each house (HOR and Senate) objects, each house will adjourn the joint session for their own session (limited at two hours) to take up the objection. If both houses pass a resolution objecting to the EC result, further action can take place. If both houses do not (i.e. if one or neither passes a resolution), the objection is powerless and the college result is certified.

    Clearly this is political theater as we know such a resolution will not pass the House, and there's good reason to think it wouldn't pass the Senate either (with or without the two senators from Georgia). The January 6 joint session is traditionally a ceremonial one. This one will not be.

    Many traditional pillars of Republican support have condemned the plan as futile and damaging. Certainly the Trump loyalists don't care - and many are likely doing it for fundraising purposes or to carry weight with the fraction of their constituencies that think this is a good idea.


     
    Is this true?

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    After the tear gas cleared and the glass was swept up and the blood and feces were scrubbed off the walls, the Capitol returned to the business of democracy, and most of the officers who had defended it on Jan. 6, 2021, went back to work.

    Some were bruised, scratched and sprayed with chemicals. Several were knocked unconscious. Some sustained traumatic brain injuries and underwent surgeries. Some were diagnosed with PTSD. Many kept showing up to work with nerves that felt jangled and bodies that hurt in ways they hadn’t before.

    Five years after the Capitol attack, most of the officers injured that day have never widely shared their experience. To understand the effects of one of the most divisive days in American history on the people who lived it, The Washington Post, referencing a database from the Chicago Project on Security and Threats, contacted 58 current and former officers from D.C. police, U.S. Capitol Police, Metro Transit Police, Arlington County Police and Prince George’s County police.

    Many officers never reported their injuries, The Post learned. The most-often cited number of injured officers — 140 — is likely an undercount. The Office of Government Accountability has tallied at least 174.

    Many stayed in law enforcement. But some retired early. Others moved away, one as far as New Zealand, to avoid reminders of being attacked. They left for psychology, education, the Peace Corps. Some were too injured to work.

    Most did not respond or declined to be interviewed, with some saying they wanted to avoid the harassment faced by others who have spoken up. But many stories are preserved in victim impact statements and court records:

    I lost a lot of the will to even want to do the job at that point, a lot of the desire to even get up out of bed.

    I had a concussion, a back injury, a deviated septum, a broken tooth …. My eye continued to burn for a week.

    I knew we were there to protect the Capitol. But it went from protecting the Capitol to protecting my life.

    As I kind of straightened my finger out, I could see tendons between the sections of bone.

    I’m a Republican. These are my fellow Republicans. And I’ve had people that I’ve known all my life that don’t want to have anything to do with me now.

    Some said they’ve moved on, like the country. For others, it hasn’t been so simple.

    Here are some of their stories, in their own words, edited for length and clarity..............

    Federico Ruiz, 52​

    Former Capitol Police officer​


    ...........I joined the Capitol Police department, went up the ranks, became a sergeant. It was the best time of my life, being a sergeant, because I got to do what I was doing in the military, which is being a mentor and training people. Then January 6 came around.

    I got assaulted. This guy was on a raised platform and decided to do some WWE move where he jumped and clotheslined me. He landed on top of me.

    I started to feel a lot of pain in my back, and neck, and my knee, and in my whole right side. But I pushed on and didn’t tell anybody. I didn’t want to be on light duty.

    The summer after January 6th, a school-aged group was walking up on King Street and they all had MAGA hats on. I looked at a teenager and my first thought was to punch him in his face, to assault this kid, just start punching all these kids with these MAGA hats. I was like: “What am I thinking, man? I really need help.” I started seeing a counselor after that.

    The tone change — especially from the Republican Party — from insurrectionists to protesters, that hurt the most. I started to realize that the oath of office that I took as a police officer to defend Congress — I wasn’t able to honor it anymore. I cannot protect people that use other people as pawns in their political game. I can’t give my life or attempt to give my life for them anymore.

    I decided to retire early. And the injuries I received from January 6 were getting worse and worse, so much that working after that had become kind of impossible.

    As soon as I wake up, I can already feel pain. It’s always on my right side. It shoots down from the neck all the way down to my lumbar. It numbs up my arm and my leg. And then my knee and ankle are always in pain. I have to walk carefully, really gingerly. Sometimes people will say, oh you’re limping. It comes and goes.

    Now I can’t go up on Capitol Hill without feeling like something’s going to happen. I avoid crowds, I avoid large gatherings. I tend to flinch when I see anybody wearing MAGA gear.

    I live off of my pension right now. I can’t really function in society.

    Jannique Spriggs​

    Former senior officer for D.C. police​


    The racial disrespect that day was unbelievable — on a different level. I’ve heard about it, I’ve just never experienced it. There were four White men across the street from where I was, heckling my partner and me. When they didn’t get a response, they walked across the street closer to us and said, “Two black b-----s.” So that was the tone.


    That particular day kind of mentally took me back to what my mom dealt with, what I read and researched on racial disparities and what I saw in documentaries. My mom was born in ‘52, so she was there for the ‘60s riots and protests. She was in Southeast D.C. She was 16. My mother went around the corner to warn the neighborhood the police were coming when glass shattered and it got into her thigh. It was more of a gash, because it needed stitches.

    I don’t want to say I understand one more than the other. I don’t understand January 6 at all.

    There was a shooting at the Capitol while we were there. Officers were getting injured. They were being overtaken. We had to switch out because they were exhausted. One officer had a gash in the back of his head. His head was wrapped up in toilet paper, and my partner and I led him out of the hot zone to seek medical treatment.


    The insurrectionists came equipped with zip ties, bear mace, duct tape, knives and guns. They were spreading feces on the statues and urinating on the statues. We were totally caught off guard. “Are we going to get out? Are we not? Are these people for real? Is this happening?”............

    Five years after Jan. 6, officers describe the toll of defending the Capitol​



     
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    After the tear gas cleared and the glass was swept up and the blood and feces were scrubbed off the walls, the Capitol returned to the business of democracy, and most of the officers who had defended it on Jan. 6, 2021, went back to work.

    Some were bruised, scratched and sprayed with chemicals. Several were knocked unconscious. Some sustained traumatic brain injuries and underwent surgeries. Some were diagnosed with PTSD. Many kept showing up to work with nerves that felt jangled and bodies that hurt in ways they hadn’t before.

    Five years after the Capitol attack, most of the officers injured that day have never widely shared their experience. To understand the effects of one of the most divisive days in American history on the people who lived it, The Washington Post, referencing a database from the Chicago Project on Security and Threats, contacted 58 current and former officers from D.C. police, U.S. Capitol Police, Metro Transit Police, Arlington County Police and Prince George’s County police.

    Many officers never reported their injuries, The Post learned. The most-often cited number of injured officers — 140 — is likely an undercount. The Office of Government Accountability has tallied at least 174.

    Many stayed in law enforcement. But some retired early. Others moved away, one as far as New Zealand, to avoid reminders of being attacked. They left for psychology, education, the Peace Corps. Some were too injured to work.

    Most did not respond or declined to be interviewed, with some saying they wanted to avoid the harassment faced by others who have spoken up. But many stories are preserved in victim impact statements and court records:

    I lost a lot of the will to even want to do the job at that point, a lot of the desire to even get up out of bed.

    I had a concussion, a back injury, a deviated septum, a broken tooth …. My eye continued to burn for a week.

    I knew we were there to protect the Capitol. But it went from protecting the Capitol to protecting my life.

    As I kind of straightened my finger out, I could see tendons between the sections of bone.

    I’m a Republican. These are my fellow Republicans. And I’ve had people that I’ve known all my life that don’t want to have anything to do with me now.

    Some said they’ve moved on, like the country. For others, it hasn’t been so simple.

    Here are some of their stories, in their own words, edited for length and clarity..............

    Federico Ruiz, 52​

    Former Capitol Police officer​


    ...........I joined the Capitol Police department, went up the ranks, became a sergeant. It was the best time of my life, being a sergeant, because I got to do what I was doing in the military, which is being a mentor and training people. Then January 6 came around.

    I got assaulted. This guy was on a raised platform and decided to do some WWE move where he jumped and clotheslined me. He landed on top of me.

    I started to feel a lot of pain in my back, and neck, and my knee, and in my whole right side. But I pushed on and didn’t tell anybody. I didn’t want to be on light duty.

    The summer after January 6th, a school-aged group was walking up on King Street and they all had MAGA hats on. I looked at a teenager and my first thought was to punch him in his face, to assault this kid, just start punching all these kids with these MAGA hats. I was like: “What am I thinking, man? I really need help.” I started seeing a counselor after that.

    The tone change — especially from the Republican Party — from insurrectionists to protesters, that hurt the most. I started to realize that the oath of office that I took as a police officer to defend Congress — I wasn’t able to honor it anymore. I cannot protect people that use other people as pawns in their political game. I can’t give my life or attempt to give my life for them anymore.

    I decided to retire early. And the injuries I received from January 6 were getting worse and worse, so much that working after that had become kind of impossible.

    As soon as I wake up, I can already feel pain. It’s always on my right side. It shoots down from the neck all the way down to my lumbar. It numbs up my arm and my leg. And then my knee and ankle are always in pain. I have to walk carefully, really gingerly. Sometimes people will say, oh you’re limping. It comes and goes.

    Now I can’t go up on Capitol Hill without feeling like something’s going to happen. I avoid crowds, I avoid large gatherings. I tend to flinch when I see anybody wearing MAGA gear.

    I live off of my pension right now. I can’t really function in society.

    Jannique Spriggs​

    Former senior officer for D.C. police​


    The racial disrespect that day was unbelievable — on a different level. I’ve heard about it, I’ve just never experienced it. There were four White men across the street from where I was, heckling my partner and me. When they didn’t get a response, they walked across the street closer to us and said, “Two black b-----s.” So that was the tone.


    That particular day kind of mentally took me back to what my mom dealt with, what I read and researched on racial disparities and what I saw in documentaries. My mom was born in ‘52, so she was there for the ‘60s riots and protests. She was in Southeast D.C. She was 16. My mother went around the corner to warn the neighborhood the police were coming when glass shattered and it got into her thigh. It was more of a gash, because it needed stitches.

    I don’t want to say I understand one more than the other. I don’t understand January 6 at all.

    There was a shooting at the Capitol while we were there. Officers were getting injured. They were being overtaken. We had to switch out because they were exhausted. One officer had a gash in the back of his head. His head was wrapped up in toilet paper, and my partner and I led him out of the hot zone to seek medical treatment.


    The insurrectionists came equipped with zip ties, bear mace, duct tape, knives and guns. They were spreading feces on the statues and urinating on the statues. We were totally caught off guard. “Are we going to get out? Are we not? Are these people for real? Is this happening?”............

    Five years after Jan. 6, officers describe the toll of defending the Capitol​



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    I’m not normally one to call for a civil war, but it should have happened when Jan 5th hit. Every Congressman who supported Trump should have been arrested for treason and Trump should have been immediately impeached and put in prison. Our country is asleep at the wheel and we’re going to pay the price when Trump and SCOTUS essentially makes Congress impotent and everything goes through the WH.
     
    The White House continues to defend a highly inaccurate website it made marking five years since Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.

    “We knew the media would be covering January 6th quite a bit because they think it's something the American people are still believing their lies on,” Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said during a press briefing on Wednesday.

    “They think it’s something that still helps their case against this president. Obviously not, or else he wouldn’t have been reelected in an overwhelming fashion in November of last year.”

    Her comments were in response to a lengthy question from reporter Cara Castronuova, a correspondent for Trump ally Mike Lindell’s LindellTV.

    Castronuova claimed that Democrats and the mainstream media have pushed a “big lie” that the January 6 riot was an insurrection and that police died that day. (Media outlets including The Independent have accurately reported that officers involved in responding to the riot died after January 6 itself.)

    In addition, she claimed a Georgia woman named Rosanne Boyland was “pepper balled, gassed, and ultimately brutally beaten with a stick” by a Capitol police officer.……..


    www.independent.co.uk

    Karoline Leavitt defends Trump Jan 6 website after question from MAGA journalist

    Five years after Trump supporters stormed the Capitol as part of the Republican’s attempts to undermine the election results, the Trump administration released a website blaming Democrats and police for the violence
    www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
     

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