Trump floats claims for Canada, Greenland, and the Panama Canal (5 Viewers)

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Oh, but he's only joking - well, maybe, so they say. Or sort of joking with Canada, and maybe not joking with Greenland - saying that "ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity" doesn't sound like a joke . . . and um, not sure about what the about Panama Canal thing is?

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That is a loaded question. Is your stance that Trump doesn't know how to negotiate? If it is, any further discussion is futile. I understand you hate the man, but he is a darn good negotiator, even if it is in his best interest.

Nice non-answer. In your opinion, what are the best deals Trump negotiated during his first term?
 
That is a loaded question. Is your stance that Trump doesn't know how to negotiate? If it is, any further discussion is futile. I understand you hate the man, but he is a darn good negotiator, even if it is in his best interest.
No, he doesn’t. Read David Cay Johnston. Trump is incompetent. He is a grifter.
 
It's funny they bring up the Art of the Deal.

A book not written by Trump.

But actually written by someone else who fleeced Trump into 40% and no NDA to ghost write it for him
 
That is a loaded question. Is your stance that Trump doesn't know how to negotiate? If it is, any further discussion is futile. I understand you hate the man, but he is a darn good negotiator, even if it is in his best interest.
if so why did he have 6 bankruptcies and countless failed businesses? why did he always have to resort to scams and cons and ripping off contractors and such? You can't be great at it if all it takes is praise or a bribe and you fold. Remember how he was against Tiktok, coke, Budweiser, and others and now he is not because they donated money to him??? You're confusing that he can convince people easily with a good negotiator. Long ago people found if you play to his vanity you can get what you want.
 
Y'all are correct. He is a horrible business man. lol.

What did he negotiate? Well let's start with, according to this board, there are now 6 conservative judges on the supreme court. You may not like it, but he got exactly what he wanted.

How many would you like me to list? Do you just want presidential actions?

Funny the hills y'all are willing to fight on. But TDS is TDS and it is obviously REAL!

if so why did he have 6 bankruptcies and countless failed businesses? why did he always have to resort to scams and cons and ripping off contractors and such? You can't be great at it if all it takes is praise or a bribe and you fold. Remember how he was against Tiktok, coke, Budweiser, and others and now he is not because they donated money to him??? You're confusing that he can convince people easily with a good negotiator. Long ago people found if you play to his vanity you can get what you want.

Oh wait, he is just a good convincer not a good negotiator. Why didn't I think of that earlier. I am so naive.
 
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Oh wait, he is just a good convincer not a good negotiator. Why didn't I think of that earlier. I am so naive.
they are not the same. negotiating means give and take trump has no give he is only take. all you have to do is look at his history and How it has been. how he changes his mind when someone gives him money. he was well known that it was easy to get what you want if you flattered him long before he became president. it's right there all you have to do is look it up.

Trump Almost Always Folds​

From trade deals to gun control and immigration to military deployments, the president has a consistent pattern: Talk a big game, then back down.

There are perhaps no negotiations more fraught, or with higher stakes, than those surrounding Israel-Palestine. Has the self-professed “world’s greatest deal-maker” dropped the ball after making his first major play in the region?

Whatever happened to the ‘art of the deal’? What negotiating handbook prescribes that you force your partner to give up their ace card before a game has started?

US President Donald Trump has reinterpreted the game he claims to be master of in his statement on 6 December recognising Jerusalem as the capital of a single state, Israel, and hailing this as the first move in the transfer of the US Embassy from Tel Aviv. He then argues that this cynical exercise in setting up facts on the ground in no way pre-empts final status negotiations on the future of the city.

There is a breathtaking lack of logic to this claim but it is also entirely consistent with Trump’s other recent moves to remove the United States from the framework of international deal-making enshrined in the post-World War II international order. He has already:

  • announced the renunciation of free trade deals (already signed but which he now finds inconvenient);
  • walked away from the climate change negotiating framework;
  • left one of the chief UN agencies, UNESCO;
  • all but abandoned a deal with Iran which enforced a stay on that country’s nuclear program; and
  • chosen his side in the split he identifies as dividing the Islamic world between Shi`a and Sunni.
 
they are not the same. negotiating means give and take trump has no give he is only take. all you have to do is look at his history and How it has been. how he changes his mind when someone gives him money. he was well known that it was easy to get what you want if you flattered him long before he became president. it's right there all you have to do is look it up.

Trump Almost Always Folds​

From trade deals to gun control and immigration to military deployments, the president has a consistent pattern: Talk a big game, then back down.

There are perhaps no negotiations more fraught, or with higher stakes, than those surrounding Israel-Palestine. Has the self-professed “world’s greatest deal-maker” dropped the ball after making his first major play in the region?

Whatever happened to the ‘art of the deal’? What negotiating handbook prescribes that you force your partner to give up their ace card before a game has started?

US President Donald Trump has reinterpreted the game he claims to be master of in his statement on 6 December recognising Jerusalem as the capital of a single state, Israel, and hailing this as the first move in the transfer of the US Embassy from Tel Aviv. He then argues that this cynical exercise in setting up facts on the ground in no way pre-empts final status negotiations on the future of the city.

There is a breathtaking lack of logic to this claim but it is also entirely consistent with Trump’s other recent moves to remove the United States from the framework of international deal-making enshrined in the post-World War II international order. He has already:

  • announced the renunciation of free trade deals (already signed but which he now finds inconvenient);
  • walked away from the climate change negotiating framework;
  • left one of the chief UN agencies, UNESCO;
  • all but abandoned a deal with Iran which enforced a stay on that country’s nuclear program; and
  • chosen his side in the split he identifies as dividing the Islamic world between Shi`a and Sunni.
My friend, I am not arguing with you. Your article changed my mind.

Trump is a failure in business and is really broke. He is a terrible negotiator and all he does is take what he wants. He literally grabs them by whatever he wants. He is just a white alpha male with privilege. If it were not for his white privilege and his daddy, he would be nothing.

I can't believe I didn't realize this sooner.
 
He is a terrible negotiator and all he does is take what he wants. He literally grabs them by whatever he wants. He is just a white alpha male with privilege. If it were not for his white privilege and his daddy, he would be nothing.
Threatening to take another nation’s land by force when you will command the strongest and most lethal military force in the world is hardly “negotiating”.

Trump operates like a mob boss. In his own mind, he’s a strongman wannabe. He’s actually just a bully and a coward, always punching down.

It is duly noted that you have zero good negotiations carried out by him. Presidential executive orders are definitely not negotiations.

The fact that so many misguided people think Trump is smart, or good at business is the true delusion that is operational in this country. If you think Trump truly cares about this country or any of the people in it, you’re his mark. Congrats, I guess.
 

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