The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (11 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    The Trump supporters have just shut off the outside world and are only listening to people that agree with them. They started with let the courts do their thing and we will see. Well now that didn’t work the are just making stuff up about Hugo Chavez
     
    Good article on GSAs Emily Murphy who is holding up the transition
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    Heads of state are congratulating Joe Biden. President Trump’s national security adviser has promised the Democrat a “very professional transition.” The Georgia recount has kept the state in Biden’s column — and Trump’s legal efforts to overturn the election results are crumbling.


    Yet more than two weeks after Election Day, the Trump appointee who officially acknowledges the next president — and starts the transition to a new administration — is marking time and in no hurry to make a decision, despite facing intense pressure as her boss works to subvert the election.


    Emily Murphy, head of the General Services Administration, has refused to declare Biden the “apparent” winner, as the law requires for the transition to begin. And she still has not determined when she will, her aides and associates say, leaving the changeover in a vacuum that threatens essential functions of government.


    Day after day, Murphy, a loyal Republican the president appointed three years ago, weighs her options but declines to say what fact or development she is waiting for. She has told agencies that the first step in the transfer of power, which would release millions of dollars and give Biden access to the government, may be weeks away...............

    [A little-known Trump appointee is in charge of handing transition resources to Biden — and she isn’t budging]

    Murphy’s silence has plunged a normally apolitical, ministerial process into precedent-setting territory as Democrats target her in nasty, personal tones and even some high-profile Republicans — among them former president George W. Bush, whose administration she served — urge her to get on with it.........

     
    Even if you’re a Trump supporter at some point don’t you have to say “ok, this is getting ridiculous. It sucks but we lost”

    did you not see the clip I posted where some caller on Rush Limbaugh's show cried and said he would die for the president?
    A lot of them have fully bought into whatever trump is saying. Like living in some alternate reality
     
    Uh yeah, no.. think I see what you're trying to do, shifting the blame off Trump and all on to Powell (soon to be Giuliani) for the crazy conspiracy shirt that's gotten out of control..

    But I mean, we all saw the Trump tweets saying the same shirt. Is your argument that he's just a dumbass? That might be the argument.

     
    So Trump's legal team is appealing the Penn case that was tossed, thus causing fear the Pennsylvania is going to hold off certifying the election until the case is decided.

    Sigh...
     

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