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    GrandAdmiral said:
    Being out of touch with minorities and being racist are two different things.
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    I agree with that statement.

    It looks like with Pete he is getting criticized for both though. I don't know what evidence there is that he is a racist. Unfortunately, that term is thrown around with little or no evidence these days.
     
    Beach Friends said:
    I agree with that statement.

    It looks like with Pete he is getting criticized for both though. I don't know what evidence there is that he is a racist. Unfortunately, that term is thrown around with little or no evidence these days.
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    He angered quite a few black leaders in South Carolina by running ads that made it appear they endorsed the Mayor for President.

    He angered some minority residents in South Bend when his redevelopment program resulted in destroying low income housing

    He angered some residents of South Bend in his reaction to a police-involved shooting of a black man.

    There have been some bad gaffes on the trail, for instance telling a black woman that he wasn't asking for her vote.
     
    JimEverett said:
    He angered quite a few black leaders in South Carolina by running ads that made it appear they endorsed the Mayor for President.

    He angered some minority residents in South Bend when his redevelopment program resulted in destroying low income housing

    He angered some residents of South Bend in his reaction to a police-involved shooting of a black man.

    There have been some bad gaffes on the trail, for instance telling a black woman that he wasn't asking for her vote.
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    It's interesting to watch him respond to criticism. He handled the fire from Tulsi poorly, IMO. One more reason the DNC looks for ways to exclude her.
     
    JimEverett said:
    He angered quite a few black leaders in South Carolina by running ads that made it appear they endorsed the Mayor for President.

    He angered some minority residents in South Bend when his redevelopment program resulted in destroying low income housing

    He angered some residents of South Bend in his reaction to a police-involved shooting of a black man.

    There have been some bad gaffes on the trail, for instance telling a black woman that he wasn't asking for her vote.
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    telling the black woman he wasn’t asking for her vote was totally taken out of context. IIRC, he was at a meeting to console the family of the person who had been killed, and a very angry woman brought up his campaign. His point was that he didn’t come there to ask for her vote, he was there as the mayor.

    the more I see this repeated the more irresponsible it gets. (I mean the media people who repeat it are irresponsible).
     
    I am not sure, but it seems that Mayor Pete's base is older Millennial/Gen X, upper income, educated, white, urban, liberal. He isn't going to get the younger black vote - which in the primary are almost all activists. Those voters are going to go with Sanders or Warren - and I don't think there are a whole lot of them.
    The older black voters are, so far, sticking with Biden - who has a longer time connecting with the constituency.

    I am sure any calls that Pete is a racist are coming from the more younger block of voters. And really it probably has a lot to do with his perceived lack of left-wing credentials as opposed to anything that is overtly racist. It seems common with that crowd to categorize political differences as coming from a racist mindset.
     
    JimEverett said:
    I am not sure, but it seems that Mayor Pete's base is older Millennial/Gen X, upper income, educated, white, urban, liberal. He isn't going to get the younger black vote - which in the primary are almost all activists. Those voters are going to go with Sanders or Warren - and I don't think there are a whole lot of them.
    The older black voters are, so far, sticking with Biden - who has a longer time connecting with the constituency.

    I am sure any calls that Pete is a racist are coming from the more younger block of voters. And really it probably has a lot to do with his perceived lack of left-wing credentials as opposed to anything that is overtly racist. It seems common with that crowd to categorize political differences as coming from a racist mindset.
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    I agree with your assessment, but I think Pete needs to just keep being himself.

    He gets himself into binds sometimes when he responds authentically like telling that lady he wasn’t trying to get her vote.

    If people have the wrong idea about you, the best way to cure it is to be consistent and eventually reality overcomes perception.

    Many politicians make the mistake of trying to overcompensate to combat a misperception and it just comes off as pandering.

    Pete’s political career is just beginning.
     
    samiam5211 said:
    I agree with your assessment, but I think Pete needs to just keep being himself.

    He gets himself into binds sometimes when he responds authentically like telling that lady he wasn’t trying to get her vote.

    If people have the wrong idea about you, the best way to cure it is to be consistent and eventually reality overcomes perception.

    Many politicians make the mistake of trying to overcompensate to combat a misperception and it just comes off as pandering.

    Pete’s political career is just beginning.
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    And I'd love to be able to use the word polyglot more often so the longer he's in the race, the better. I've been Team Mayor Pete pretty much since the beginning. He just seems to be the most authentic candidate out of all of them. When he doesn't know something, he goes and learns it. He doesn't just learn how to answer a difficult question, he seems to actually go learn everything possible in the amount of time he's got.

    I think after another 8 months or so of him being on the trail, he'll be able to pick up a lot of people who aren't considering him now - as long as he remains authentic. And if he doesn't get the nomination, whoever does should think long and hard about making him their VP running mate. He could go toe to toe with Pence - especially over Pence's (and family's) illegal doings with their gas stations that made them rich while destroying the ecosystem surrounding virtually every shuttered gas station they have across the state.
     
    Renee Ferguson, a prominent black television journalist in Chicago, arrived outside the swanky office building with a videographer and her intern — a Harvard sophomore named Peter Buttigieg.

    In the summer of 2002, Ferguson had been reporting on an investigation about a sex offender working at a day care in the building’s basement. The three wanted to capture undercover footage of the man on the job.

    But when Ferguson tried to get into the building, a security guard turned her away. The videographer, who was also black, tried next. The security guard turned her away, too.

    Then, Buttigieg gave it a shot. When he approached the door, the security guard let him in. Buttigieg secured footage that would help Ferguson win one of her seven Emmys, but what stayed with her most was the prejudice that she figured led the young, white intern to acquire access that two black reporters could not.

    “I think I understand what white privilege looks like,” Ferguson recalled telling Buttigieg.

    “I don’t know if that’s what’s going on,” he said.

    “Yes, you do know,” she said. “I couldn’t get in, but you could. Think about how many times in your life that you’ve just been able to walk through doors and the rest of us got turned away.”...........

     
    Yang is done, he will be a bad man for saying he supports Nuclear Power.
     
    I haven't been watching closely, but it seems they are doing better as a whole.

    I get the sense that they have learned that they can't stand up and have 4 hours of a wokefest. I could have told them that before they started the first debate.
     
    Now we pay money and a fast track to citizens to the families that were separated? Yea sorry but fork all that noise.
     

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