The Joe Biden 2020 tracker thread (4 Viewers)

[Intensesaint]

A place for all the gaffs, slip-ups and overall outlandish things Democratic candidates will say or do in lead up to the 2020 Election.

 

[Dadsdream]

It's silly to classify this as child abuse.

No, it's not.

 

[GMRfellowtraveller]

No, it's not.

unless you can prove, or at least demonstrate, the probability of potential danger then it's certainly silly
so far your post have suggested that you think it's icky, therefore...
you've added nothing but your perspective - your perspective might be fine for you, others are free to say it's silly

 

[cuddlemonkey]

unless you can prove, or at least demonstrate, the probability of potential danger then it's certainly silly
so far your post have suggested that you think it's icky, therefore...
you've added nothing but your perspective - your perspective might be fine for you, others are free to say it's silly

I would go so far to say that an allegation of child abuse is incredibly serious and to throw it around this casually shows a distinct lack of understanding. It goes beyond silly. Anyone who would seriously make that claim is outing themselves as a hyper partisan joke.

 

[Beach Friends]

Looking at it dispassionately, as a father and grandfather, I wouldn't want to see one of my own paraded around a stage like that at that age regarding anything involving sexuality.

At least for me, it has little to do with who I favor politically. It has to do with right and wrong. To me, as a parent and grandfather, that's wrong.

Let the little guy reach the age of sexual consent before you put him and his name and his life out there on display for the world regarding anything sexual.

Isn't this the same 9 year old who was at the CNN LGBQetal Townhall that Warren cheered on (which is presumably the same child Warren later lionized by saying she would let vet her Secty of Education)?

 

[coldseat]

No, it's not.

If you classified this as child abuse, and where serious about it, that means that you would be in favor of CPS entering this families home and removing this child in order to protect him from his parents.

Are you seriously going to say that would be an appropriate reaction to this mother letting her child ask this question to a Presidential candidate in an open forum?

I'm sorry, but I don't care what you "believe", that not only would be silly it would be ridiculous, extreme, authoritarian, etc.. It would be a ridiculous abuse of state power.

If you're not ready to carry out that type of action in response to this encounter, then maybe you should think about calling it something else.

 

[Dadsdream]

unless you can prove, or at least demonstrate, the probability of potential danger then it's certainly silly
so far your post have suggested that you think it's icky, therefore...
you've added nothing but your perspective - your perspective might be fine for you, others are free to say it's silly

Let's revisit this kid at age 21 and see.
I'm free to say it's not silly.

"Aside from this being about this kid being gay, there isn't anything remotely sexual about that interaction."
You are joking, right? If it's about the kid's sexuality, then the entire interaction IS sexual. Geez.

 

[coldseat]

Let's revisit this kid at age 21 and see.
I'm free to say it's not silly.

Even if you did check back with him at 21 to see how much that moment meant to him/helped him/hurt him/did or didn't confuse him/was indifferent, you wouldn't listen to him. You've already made up your mind as to how you believe it injures him. You've classified it as child abuse, what makes any of us think you'd actually be open to some other interpretation? Lol, come on now.

"Aside from this being about this kid being gay, there isn't anything remotely sexual about that interaction."

You are joking, right? If it's about the kid's sexuality, then the entire interaction IS sexual. Geez.

Not even a little. At that age, it's possible to know you're gay, but not have a fully realized sexual understanding of it. To know he's not attracted to girls, but are to boys and that's it. Knowing he's different, it's more about seeking acceptance of his identity than anything sexual.

 

[Dadsdream]

Even if you did check back with him at 21 to see how much that moment meant to him/helped him/hurt him/did or didn't confuse him/was indifferent, you wouldn't listen to him. You've already made up your mind as to how you believe it injures him. You've classified it as child abuse, what makes any of us think you'd actually be open to some other interpretation? Lol, come on now.

Not even a little. At that age, it's possible to know you're gay, but not have a fully realized sexual understanding of it. To know he's not attracted to girls, but are to boys and that's it. Knowing he's different, it's more about seeking acceptance of his identity than anything sexual.

Not buying what you're selling here. But that's OK.

 

[samiam5211]

No, it's not.

Your attitude is why it was important to bring him up on the stage.

I would rather you be uncomfortable than for gay kids and teens to feel ashamed.

 

[Dadsdream]

Your attitude is why it was important to bring him up on the stage.

I would rather you be uncomfortable than for gay kids and teens to feel ashamed.

Your attitude about my attitude is why he shouldn't be brought up on stage.
I'd rather that we let kids be kids.
Wait until they're in their teens and old enough that physical changes kicked in, and the law says they've reached the age of consent.

 

[samiam5211]

Your attitude about my attitude is why he shouldn't be brought up on stage.
I'd rather that we let kids be kids.
Wait until they're in their teens and old enough that physical changes kicked in, and the law says they've reached the age of consent.

Is there a list of things you think kids shouldn’t be allowed to talk about until the age of consent?

 

[Dadsdream]

Is there a list of things you think kids shouldn’t be allowed to talk about until the age of consent?

On stage? With a national audience? Recorded? With a candidate for president?
Sex.

 

[wardorican]

I am very leery about having a nine-year-old become the focus of a media circus about Buttigeg's sexuality.
An old political axiom asks, "Yes, but how will it play in Peoria?"
Not well, would be my guess.

Denver, Colorado (CNN)Pete Buttigieg shared an emotional moment with a young supporter in Denver on Saturday night.
"Thank you for being so brave," the boy, later identified as 9-year-old Zachary Ro, wrote in a question submitted via fishbowl during the presidential hopeful's Saturday rally, "Would you help me tell the world I'm gay, too? I want to be brave like you."

'I want to be brave like you': 9-year-old asks Pete Buttigieg to help him tell the world he's gay

Pete Buttigieg shared an emotional moment with a young supporter in Denver on Saturday night.

www.cnn.com

Yeah, it's good to be wary of kids being used as political props. Less.so, if the kid actively seeks out the help/attention though.

Girl, 11, brings AR-15 to Idaho hearing on gun legislation

An 11-year-old girl toting a loaded AR-15 assault weapon appeared Monday at a legislative hearing with her grandfather, who is supporting a proposal that would allow visitors to Idaho who can legally possess firearms to carry a concealed handgun within city limits.

www.local10.com

 

[cuddlemonkey]

On stage? With a national audience? Recorded? With a candidate for president?
Sex.

Good thing that didn't happen.

 

[samiam5211]

On stage? With a national audience? Recorded? With a candidate for president?
Sex.

Do you think he was talking about sex?

 

[bdb13]

I watched a video of Pete and the kid on stage and... well, while I'm not crazy about children being put into the middle of things like this, it seemed like the moment may well have been authentic. Or not, who the fork really knows.

But unless there's evidence the kid was forced to ask the question and/or forced to go up on the stage and participate in something that he did not want to, I don't see how you could reasonably say that that was child abuse.

I'd also argue that addressing sexual orientation is not the same thing as a discussion on 'sex.' It's one of those things where there could or could not be an overlap in those discussions and I didn't see any overlap in the video.

(Nor do I have a problem with Trump and the military family reunion)

 

[V Chip]

No, it's not.

Yes, it is.

I'm pretty sure we all know your educational and vocational background by now, and you have IIRC exactly zero child development or child psychology experience or education. So yes, it is silly for you to call this child abuse.

 

[Dadsdream]

Do you think he was talking about sex?

Yes.