Social media and the 1st Amendment (Formerly: Trump seeks to punish Twitter) (1 Viewer)

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    Despite Twitter historically granting Trump far more latitude with violations of Twitter terms of service than average members would get, a recent tagging of a Trump tweet with Twitter's fact-checking tool enraged the president. He announced yesterday that he will take retribution via executive order seeking to remove statutory legal protections in place for social media companies, and instructing his executive agencies (the FCC an DOJ) to formulate plans to take legal action against social media companies for "political bias."

    A draft of the order has been released . . . and it is troubling to say the least.

    According to analysis, the order will "reinterpret" a key provision of the Communications Decency Act (Sec. 230) that previously protected social media companies for responsibility for the content on their sites. That section works by declaring that social media companies are not "publishers" of the content posted by third-party account holders (members) - and it is statutory. The Trump order apparently also instructs the FCC to create regulations to make this new "interpretation" of Sec. 230 actionable against social media companies. In addition, the order apparently instructs the FTC (which is not an executive agency) to report to Congress on "political bias" in social media - and to consider using the reinterpreted Section 230 to bring actions against social media companies for political bias.

    Apparently the order also instructs DOJ to work with state AGs to determine what state laws may be used against social media companies for political bias.

    So yep, a Republican president is attempting to restructure the statutory framework that has allowed American social media companies - which are private business by the way - to grow into corporate giants without having to be answerable in court for the content posted by their members. And will do so based on the notion that private business should be held to some standard of political neutrality.

    Further legal analysis will be needed, but it seems highly suspect on several important grounds (including the fact that Section 230 is statutory and is very explicit - it's not subject to rewrite by executive order). More importantly this idea that "political bias" can be defined and made actionable by federal agencies against private companies seems a patent violation of the First Amendment.



     
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    FB will do the bare minimum to enforce these policies. They aren’t going to intentionally lose money unless the heat is so bad not doing something will make them lose more money.
     
    That’s why we should probably turn up the heat, specifically on FB and YouTube. Not from any real knowledge, just spitballing, but those two seem to have the most difficulty. I already voted with my feet by getting off of FB years ago. I try to use YouTube sparingly, but they have so much good content, it’s difficult. I don’t log in to YouTube and don’t subscribe to their service though.

    I would gladly go back on FB if they would be more responsible. Their reckless behavior keeps me away from supporting that.
     
    I can tell you since after the 2020 election, FB (my feed) is sooo much better. All these "im leaving FB because I'm tired of all the fake news and political posts" people left, and for some reason, majority of those kind of posts went away. it seems the ones mostly complaining about it, were the ones mostly posting that crap..
    And Youtube is what ever you watch. I am logged into youtube, I only watch the videos I want to watch, nothing else. not one time have I had to watch a video I didn't want to watch.
     
    I think its a good thing. A lot of people are gonna cause their own misery on there by implicating themselves on things because they think it'll be a "against the establishment" platform, when the feds are gonna be monitoring and doing stings to take people down. They will be too dumb to think otherwise...
     
    I think its a good thing. A lot of people are gonna cause their own misery on there by implicating themselves on things because they think it'll be a "against the establishment" platform, when the feds are gonna be monitoring and doing stings to take people down. They will be too dumb to think otherwise...
    All you had to do to know about what was planned to take place in DC on 1/6 if Pence didn't "stop the steal" was read people's Parler feeds. I created an account one night when I was bored just to troll the majority of users and I couldn't even stomach the stupidity for that one evening before closing the app and never opening it again.

    Seriously though, people were posting pictures of the weapons they planned to take with them to DC with threats describing how they were going to use them and on who. If the FBI didn't have a room full of rookie agents doing nothing but recording everything these morons posted on that app, which actually occurred when they said it would, they really dropped the ball. I mean, the biggest MAGA mouth pieces on Twitter were claiming that they were leaving Twitter (though they still haven't left) for Parler and that all of their followers should do the same because there wasn't any censorship at Parler and they could "speak the truth" without the threat of Parler flagging their conspiracy theories and straight up lies as being exactly what they were. I thought it was dumb to shut it down in the first place since it's such a treasure trove of threats, conspiracies, hate and propaganda that lots of people who took part in the 1/6 insurrection couldn't even stop themselves from posting stuff that very well could be the key to their conviction when their trial comes.
     
    Lol - he’s using Twitter tags in a static press release. Bless his heart.

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    I'm confused. So they want a law that says tech companies cannot censure people, but yet they want to hold tech companies liable for stuff that is posted on their platform? Only in America...
     
    So what's needed is people who can put "creative" in "content creator" and fight fire with fire. But that's not going to happen, because going high and stuff...
     
    New Twitter account to post Trump press releases and do other pro-Trump amplification - not not actually in Trump’s hands.

     

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