Seymour Hersh: Obama and Kamala threatened to invoke the 25th Amendment on Biden before he dropped out (2 Viewers)

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    ...It’s not surprising that the long overdue unraveling of President Joe Biden’s re-election campaign happened when it became impossible to keep his increasing impairment covered up. It was the big-time money backers of the Democratic Party who called off the game of see no evil, hear no evil, after Biden’s shocking performance in his June debate with Donald Trump. They balked at continuing to give millions of dollars to the party now that there was evidence that the president is not always there.

    ...Who in Washington didn’t know that Biden was failing? We all did, up to a point. I had learned months earlier from a federal official that those in the front rows of university events where Biden was speaking were warned not to move if the president tripped while walking to the podium. Secret Service agents were on hand to pick him up immediately. There would be no front-page photos of a college valedictorian helping the president climb to his feet.

    The American public could see Biden’s slow decline. The Journal reported that nearly three-fourths of those polled thought Biden was “too old to seek another term.” Cabinet meetings in the past few years largely disappeared or turned into rote sessions, as recorded by the C-SPAN, which faithfully televises all White House events. Biden would join the seated Cabinet heads and read from a prepared text, with each page covered with a plastic sheet. It was far from vibrant television.

    After the debate, there was mounting pressure on Biden to drop out. The White House and the president himself denied that he was suffering from anything more than a bad day, a cold, and jet lag. There were newspaper stories about Hunter Biden, the president’s convicted son, keeping by his side and warning all White House staffers that anyone who even hinted at the truth would be fired. That message quickly was leaked to the press. Soon the White House press corps suddenly discovered that they were being misled by the president’s press secretary. There were lots of tortured questions and broken hearts, but the message was the same: the president is in good health and is going to run for re-election this fall and carry on serving for four more years after he defeats Trump.

    On Monday, July 15, Biden took off on Air Force One on a campaign trip to Nevada, a tossup state that Biden won in 2020 by a little more than 30,000 votes. On Tuesday he gave the keynote address to 5,000 members of the NAACP at its annual convention. The next day, the president, apparently stricken while campaigning with a yet-to-be-revealed illness, broke from his schedule and made a police escort race to Air Force One after initially telling police they were heading to the nearest emergency room.

    A series of blog posts, local police reports, internet messages, and report in the Daily Mail disclosed further details of Biden’s trip to Las Vegas and his abrupt return home to Delaware. I went over these reports this week with a senior official in Washington who helped me fashion an account of a White House in complete disarray, culminating in the president’s withdrawal from the race. It’s a story not unlike Seven Days in May, the Cold War thriller in which a colonel played by Kirk Douglas foils a coup staged by a general played by Burt Lancaster. None of what you read below comes from an official account by the White House.

    At that point, according to Emily Goodin, a Daily Mail reporter who was in the traveling press pool, the president was “deathly pale” and Air Force One flew at maximum speed to Delaware, where the president has a weekend retreat at Rehoboth Beach. The press pool was told that Biden had COVID. Nothing more was said on Air Force One. After Biden’s return to Delaware, the White House told the public that Biden had contracted a COVID infection and would be in isolation. He was said to have upper respiratory symptoms, a runny nose, a cough, and was fatigued.

    That was the last straw for a core group of Congressional leaders, government officials and some senior Biden funders who were withholding huge amounts of committed contributions. “There was pressure on donors to come across on their pending commitments,” the official told me. “It was understood that Biden had a physical problem in Las Vegas and the family was saying no” to continued pressure from donors and senior Democrats in Congress to withdraw from the presidential campaign. Initially, the president could not be reached.

    By Saturday, July 20, former President Barack Obama was deeply involved, and there was talk that he would place a call to Biden. It was not clear whether Biden had been examined or just what happened to him in Las Vegas. “The Big Three,” the official said, referring to former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, continued to be directly involved. “On Sunday morning,” the official told me, with the approval of Pelosi and Schumer, “Obama called Biden after breakfast and said, ‘Here’s the deal. We have Kamala’s approval to invoke the 25th Amendment.” The amendment provides that when the president is determined by the vice president and others to be unfit to carry out the powers and duties of his office, the vice president shall assume those duties.

    “It was clear at this point,” the official said, “that she would get the nod”—that is, the support to run for the presidency in the November election. “But Obama also made it clear,” the official said, “that he was not going to immediately endorse her. But the group had decided that her work as a prosecutor would help her deal with Trump in a debate.”

    One possible drawback, I was told, was Harris’s sometime disdain for the work of the US Intelligence Community. She is known not to be especially interested in the President’s Daily Brief, a highly classified summary of current intelligence that is prepared overnight by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and delivered by hand to the most vital offices in Washington, including the vice president’s. The document, which includes signals intelligence, is to be read by the addressee in the presence of the delivering intelligence officer. I was told that Harris often showed little interest in reading the document and at some point asked the agency to stop delivering it to her. Now, as a presidential candidate, she is being kept up to date on all significant intelligence matters.

    A key factor in the decision to force Biden out of office by invoking the 25th Amendment was a series of increasingly negative polls on the president’s standing against Trump that had been commissioned by the funders, the official said. “The downward slope was increasing.” Polling would also be important for the vice president, I was told, and it was agreed that if the polls did not continue to show her gaining traction, other options would be considered, including an open convention. I was unable to learn if Harris was aware of such considerations or whether she intends to abide by them.

    The official, who has decades of experience in fundraising, told me that Obama emerged as the strongman throughout the negotiations. “He had an agenda and he wanted to seek it through to the end, and he wanted to have control over who would be elected.”

     
    Actually history is recording that Biden was told that he could not beat Trump and that he must quit as he did. Look kid this is all past tense and can't be changed. Capish
    Look, guy who's 18 years younger than me calling me kid, here's an actual recording of history. Your boy Trump is the one history looks badly upon. Comprendre?

    But that's not how 154 historians and presidential experts see it: They rate Biden in the top third of U.S. presidents, while Trump ranks dead last.


    I think you're just trolling, but I appreciate every opportunity to point out how much better Biden is than Trump and how completely terrible Trump is.
     
    Look, guy who's 18 years younger than me calling me kid, here's an actual recording of history. Your boy Trump is the one history looks badly upon. Comprendre?




    I think you're just trolling, but I appreciate every opportunity to point out how much better Biden is than Trump and how completely terrible Trump is.
    Biden is a quitter, history has already recorded this, [Mod Edit - seek a higher level and refrain from personal insults. Please read TOS]
     
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    History has recorded that Biden sacrificed his personal desires for the greater good, not that he is a quitter.


    Says the person who speaks like a twelve year old.
    It's ok, we all know that you voted for a quitter who got scared by the Donald.
     
    It's ok, we all know that you voted for a quitter who got scared by the Donald.
    You're right. Everyone knows that I voted for the winner Biden in 2020. Biden beat Trump in 2020. Biden wasn't scared of Trump. He stepped down, because the public calls for him to step down from within his own party made it impossible for him to win. So instead of being a selfishly and pridefully stubborn baboon like Trump, Biden stepped down for the good of the country.
     
    You're right. Everyone knows that I voted for Biden in 2020. Biden beat Trump in 2020. Biden wasn't scared of Trump. He stepped down, because the public calls for him to step down from within his own party made it impossible for him to win. So instead of being a selfishly and pridefully stubborn baboon like Trump, Biden stepped down for the good of the country.
    Biden is a scared and demented quitter who ran away from Trump rather than debate again.

    How sad is that

    LOL why was it good for the country that Biden step down?

    Answer because the country does not need a demented president. Glad that you agree
     
    Biden is a scared and demented...
    Biden is not scared or demented.

    ...quitter...
    Biden did what was best for the country. You call that a "quitter" the majority of majority of American calls that being "honorable and selfless"

    ...who ran away from Trump rather than debate again. How sad is that
    Biden didn't run away from debating Trump. However, Trump is running away from debating Harris, now that's what's said. Trump is too chicken to debate Harris. What a cowardly quitter and loser Trump is according to you.
     
    Biden is not scared or demented.


    Biden did what was best for the country. You call that a "quitter" the majority of majority of American calls that being "honorable and selfless"


    Biden didn't run away from debating Trump. However, Trump is running away from debating Harris, now that's what's said. Trump is too chicken to debate Harris. What a cowardly quitter and loser Trump is according to you.
    Face it, you have said that it was good for the USA that Biden quit.

    I agree

    Silly
     
    Face it, you have said that it was good for the USA that Biden quit.
    The Democrats publicly calling for Biden to drop out made it impossible for Biden to win, so Biden did the noble and selfless thing of dropping out of the race so that Harris could tag in a beat Trump. So, yes, Biden did a very good thing for all of us here in the USA.

    Glad you agree that it's good for all of us here in the USA that Biden dropped out of the race so that Harris can beat Trump.
     
    This thread has quickly devolved into something not helpful. Refrain from personal insults as well as the back and forth we see here that could be considered beating a dead horse, and seek a higher level.
     
    This thread has quickly devolved into something not helpful. Refrain from personal insults as well as the back and forth we see here that could be considered beating a dead horse, and seek a higher level.
    This is the democratic candidate for president.

    Really I am not joking

     
    This is the democratic candidate for president.

    Really I am not joking


    Harris just set political fundraising records from individuals making small donations, 66% of whom made donations for the first time in this election cycle. That indicates a lot of undecided voters have decided they are voting for Harris. That's a bad sign for Trump.
     
    Harris just set political fundraising records from individuals making small donations, 66% of whom made donations for the first time in this election cycle. That indicates a lot of undecided voters have decided they are voting for Harris. That's a bad sign for Trump.
    Only because Biden quit which you claim was for the good of the country.

    I agree
     
    Biden is a scared and demented quitter who ran away from Trump rather than debate again.

    How sad is that

    LOL why was it good for the country that Biden step down?

    Answer because the country does not need a demented president. Glad that you agree
    Then why do you want Trump?
     
    It's ok, we all know that you voted for a quitter who got scared by the Donald.
    we all know you voted for a criminal who was willing to overthrow an election because he is such a little child. one that is willing to work with dictators and become one and streal classified documents. Humm what one is worse???
     
    we all know you voted for a criminal who was willing to overthrow an election because he is such a little child. one that is willing to work with dictators and become one and streal classified documents. Humm what one is worse???
    The documents that Trump has were declassified, he actually has the documents proving that they were declassified. This being said they already dismissed the classified documents case because it was a sham and as said Trump has every unreleased JFK murder file that people like you do not want exposed. So why are you protecting JFK's killer?

     

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